(l-r) Janese Talton-Jackson (Photo source: Janese Talton-Jackson's Facebook) / Charles McKinney (Photo credit: Pittsburgh Police)

(l-r) Janese Talton-Jackson (Photo source: Janese Talton-Jackson’s Facebook) / Charles McKinney (Photo credit: Pittsburgh Police)

Janese Talton-Jackson, 29, was shot and killed Friday morning in Homewood, Pittsburgh after leaving a bar, and the suspect is now in custody after being shot by police.

Officers responded to a ShotSpotter report that detected gunshots at N. Lang Avenue and Upland Street at around 1:50 a.m. During a traffic stop, the police encountered 41-year-old Charles McKinney in a silver vehicle. The authorities received a dispatch stating that a woman had been gunned down in the area, and upon hearing this, McKinney sped off.

The officers chased McKinney and shot at him. The chase came to an end after McKinney crashed into an unoccupied car that was parked. He was then taken into custody.

McKinney was charged with the victim’s homicide, as well as aggravated assault, possessing a firearm without a license, fleeing the police, possession with intent to deliver, reckless driving and reckless endangerment.

Authorities say that the incident began when McKinney attempted to talk to Talton-Jackson at a bar, but when she turned him down and left the bar, he followed her out and shot her in the chest.

“I just think it’s sad. Somebody has to do something about the gun control, it’s just getting out of hand and it just [isn’t] safe to walk the streets no more,” a man told KDKA.

Talton-Jackson was the sister of State House Rep. Ed Gainey, according to her Facebook page. He has yet to release a statement about her death.

The two officers involved in shooting the suspect are now on administrative leave while the District Attorney’s Office investigates the incident.

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  • http://huskybro.com/ The Husky Bro

    Just horrible.

  • GoldenChild89

    Stupidity to the highest degree.

  • Malibu Jones

    Mind boggling.

  • ph2072

    Scumbag. May TRUE justice be served, and may she rest in peace.

  • Frups

    Men fear rejection, women fear getting killed. This happens daily.

    Then the #notallmen cretins show up to try and dismiss centuries of evidence.

    • guest

      I believe this does happen a lot but I’m still not willing to indict all men because a weak minded coward who probably dealt with all his problems in this way, killed this beautiful young woman. To big of a generalization.

      • Frups

        Most sane adults understand that this doesn’t literally mean EVERY SINGLE MAN IN THE UNIVERSE ya big dummy.

        • guest

          That wasn’t apparent from your notallmen hashtag.

          • Wat

            The point is that people come barging in with the #NOTALLMEN hashtag in order to derail the conversation and insinuate that everyone is, in fact, indicting all men. This is not the case. In fact, it’s precisely the concept that it’s *not* “all men” that is so terrifying. Women can never be sure exactly what to expect when they turn down a man’s advances because there is always that *chance* that it might incite violence–which is backed up by an entire culture of toxic masculinity.

            Women are forced to live in constant fear because they could be harmed simply for existing while unavailable or disinterested–and then consequently blamed.

            “If you didn’t want to be raped, you shouldn’t have been wearing that,” “What were you doing there if you didn’t want to hook up,” etc. etc. etc.

            We know it’s not all men.

            But it is some men.

            And it *is* fueled by an incredibly toxic culture of entitlement that needs to be addressed. For the sake of everyone.

          • MaggieCain

            It was actually totally apparent.

  • KnowbodyXXX

    These thirsty bastards are ruining society. Most of them have no men in their lives to teach them how to effectively approach women or how to deal with rejection. We have a crisis of male inadequacy.

    • Ivy Shoots

      The only lessons they get on how to treat women are from porn. It is very sad.

      • http://theburningbush.disqus.com/ TheBurningBush

        you may have a point there!

      • Dina

        That’s a f****** cop out there’s plenty of women who do domination and I don’t run around in their life and beat man up for not doing what they want them to do

        • Ivy Shoots

          You have no grasp of what this discussion is about. I’m embarrassed for you. Run along.

    • Likewaterforchoc

      Sad, but true.

  • Deanna Jackson

    And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a textbook example of a fuckboy.

    • guest

      Yes his picture would be in the dictionary, right beside the definition.The only good thing about prison is that dudes like him don’t last long. I see a shanking is in his future.

  • FuZ

    If the end result is any indication of how he approached her, no wonder she rejected him. He’s garbage and should be executed.
    RIP young lady.

  • Squiddy

    Gun control isnt the problem here, masculinity is.

    • Mantaradio

      Though, I’d hope a man with any kind of history that shows he’s capable of this level of murderous entitlement would not have access to a gun.

      • Dina

        He didnt have one legally…

        • http://www.pureromance.com/bethanysmith LA

          Yup gun control isnt the problem.. the problem is all the illegal guns out there and the idiots that possess them.. aint shit that could be done about that..

          • MaggieCain

            Illegal guns are there because legal guns get stolen. Less legal guns = less illegal guns.

          • Ang Nihtgenga

            How about less theft?

          • MaggieCain

            Great, stop all theft and then the problem will be solved. Fantastic plan.

  • Nndigo Sol

    Omg No. Why?!! He killed her! For what?!!! *heartbroken for this stolen life*

  • Dina

    Hate to break it to ya, but this is what a lot of men do when rejected…. not always shooting them, but violence yes.

    • The Police

      Right! I’ve had black men try to throw rocks, bottles, and yell harsh words at me for rejecting their advances. Male ego is a mutha!

      • Katie

        Why black men, white men, Hispanic, asian, middle eastern all act stupid when turned down. Racist much.

        • The Police

          yeah I am

      • madwmn

        Yep, had a bottle thrown at me at 15-16 years old for rejecting a negroid.

        • StraightG

          “negroid” bitch you deserve to be slapped with a dictionary. Fuck outta here complaining.

          • Lady T

            LOL

      • MaggieCain

        I’ve had white men do some pretty awful stuff to me for the same reason; I just don’t identify them by race because, racism.

        • The Police

          good

      • Wendy Cilnyk

        My best friend was punched in the face for denying a mans advances at a gas station in a predominantly black neighborhood by a white guy. Race doesn’t matter. Violence is a way of life in some neighborhoods.

  • The Police

    This is one time I disagree with the cops being on administrative leave. They shot the right person this time.

    • shellyTheGreat

      administrative leave is protocol for situations like this in that particular police department, regardless of whether they were right in shooting him or not.

    • FuZ

      I get your point considering the recent climate. But this one, I’m cool with. It’s procedure.

  • http://theburningbush.disqus.com/ TheBurningBush

    he deserve just retribution for the senseless killing of this beautiful women.

    • MaggieCain

      He deserves just retribution for any killing of any woman, whether she “provoked” it or it was senseless, whether she was beautiful or ugly.

      • http://theburningbush.disqus.com/ TheBurningBush

        what about, other than self defense or accident he deserves just retribution for killing any human being whether provoked or not! how about that!

  • https://knutesniche.wordpress.com/ KnutesNiche

    Sadly, I have few doubts Charles McKinney the emotionally disturbed man who committed this act of violence is a victim of America’s expanding and shameful *National Epidemic of Child Abuse and Neglect, aka Poverty*, that for decades has deprived untold numbers of emotionally abused and neglected young developing children from experiencing and enjoying a safe, fairly happy American kid childhood.

    Violence and anti-social behaviors like this often occur when emotionally or physically abused and neglected developing young children mature into frustrated, sometimes suicidal (NY Times May 18, 2015 – Rise in Suicide by Black Children Surprises Researchers) teens or adults lacking empathy and compassion, though filled with rage and resentment for being introduced to a life of pain and struggle.

    How much longer will America ignore OUR expanding population of immature American teen girls and women of African descent selfishly OPPRESSING kids by subjecting their/society’s children to *Child Abuse and Neglect, aka *Poverty,* by irresponsibly building families with too many mouths to feed, clothe and supervise?

    Mouths attached to children who often mature into depressed, angry, unpredictable teens and adults resenting their single-mothers and/or irresponsible dads for introducing them to a life of pain and struggle, yet wanting to blame everyone under our sun except their moms and/or dads for depriving them of the opportunity to experience and enjoy a fairly happy American kid childhood with Safe Streets to play or travel on.

    Question:

    If BMoTY Toya Graham had built a smaller family she could more easily provide for, nurture and supervise, would her young teen son be in The Street acting with depraved indifference toward human life by attempting to cause grave bodily harm or death police officers trying to protect Ms. Graham’s peaceful neighbors from emotional and physical harm often caused to innocent people by depressed, angry frustrated, sometimes suicidal teens and young men who are peeved for irresponsibly being introduced to a life of struggle and hardship by immature, selfish teen girls and women who WILLFULLY IGNORED their parental responsibilities and societal duty-obligation to raise fairly happy, reasonable responsible children maturing into reasonably happy teens and adults respecting their peaceful neighbors?

    Search: Rise in Suicide by Black Children Surprises Researchers By SABRINA TAVERNISE – MAY 18, 2015

    The tough question ALL Americans face is, “Who is responsible for traumatizing, abusing, neglecting, maltreating children to the point where depressed young kids, *we’re talking elementary school children*, believe their lives are not worth living?”

    Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke has repeatedly offered sound advice to all Americans, “Fix the ghetto!”

    I’m with Sheriff Clarke. I believe we also need to re-examine society’s child protection and welfare laws.

    This video depicts horrific examples of men who were victims of childhood abuse and neglect, conditioning a young teen to embrace the criminal, anti-social Street Culture Baltimore Mom of The Year failed to protect her teen son from.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ChOLiJa8k

    If Americans sincerely wish to reduce gun violence and/or other anti-social behaviors, the question all concerned, compassionate Americans should seriously be asking ourselves, our elected, civil, social, community and religious leaders is, “What real substantial changes in our society’s attitude and laws need to occur to prevent abuse that often causes young kids to mature into depressed, frustrated, angry teens and adults as a result of experiencing the emotional and/or physical trauma of an abusive childhood?”

    If we do not take affirmative action to protect children, “the ghetto” will continue to thrive, fueled by poor parenting, resulting with depressed kids maturing into depressed teens and adults who often vent their angers and frustrations on their peaceful neighbors, instead of the person(s) responsible for introducing them to a life of hardship, pain and struggle.

    *America Needs To Re-Examine Child Welfare & Protection Laws*
    _________________

    Robert K. Ross, MD, President and CEO of The California Endowment, addressed inmates at Ironwood State Prison offering a compelling overview of the role that exposure to childhood trauma plays in the lives of *emotionally troubled* and chronically ill American teens and adults.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsCNuB_KBUw

    At 2:12:25 in this documentary about Mafia hitman and victim of Early Childhood Trauma/Abuse, Richard “The Iceman” Kuklinski, Dr. Park Dietz explains why young Richard most likely developed into a emotionally disturbed, paranoid, cruel, heartless teen and man who did not give a frig about anyone else, including his wife and kids.

    https://youtu.be/QXgi72W2H7U?t=2h12m25s

    Peace.

    Black (Children’s) Lives Matter; Take Pride In Parenting; End Our National Epidemic of Child Abuse and Neglect; End Community Violence, Police Fear & Educator’s Frustrations

    • arrrghle

      wut .
      Where would I begin, never mind, have a nice life sir.

      • singlemom_4

        Don’t even try, he’s knuts (nuts), just like his user name indicates. This is just more insane black men hatred and blame towards black women. Black men aren’t men anymore because rather than take responsibility for their actions, which is the definition of a man, they choose to abdicate their own actions and responsibility through blame of the black woman. We all know plenty of people who grew up poor and didn’t resort to killing. To kill somebody for rejecting your advances towards them, and then have a black man come alone and excuse this man’s actions, blaming black women, shows the mental breakdown of black men, not black women. I don’t want black women to accept that garbage.

        • https://knutesniche.wordpress.com/ KnutesNiche

          singlemom_4 wrote, *”Black men aren’t men anymore because rather than take responsibility for their actions, which is the definition of a man, they choose to abdicate their own actions and responsibility through blame
          of the black woman.”*

          https://youtu.be/jt4lnbqKwCs?t=5m21s

          • ChocolateCity

            but, there is a culture out here that promotes disrespect and outright hate of black women…..in music, in tv, in movies on these blogs. this is what comes from it…right here.

          • https://knutesniche.wordpress.com/ KnutesNiche

            Hi, CC.

            With all due respect I disagree, offering the pain of a victim of Child Abuse and Neglect as evidence that a population of American teen girls and women are responsible for much of the madness many African communities are dealing with today and for the past two generations.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2PGfStcijg

            Peace.

        • Katie

          Disgusting, being black has nothing to do with it. People of all races can turn out to be a murderer.

          • https://knutesniche.wordpress.com/ KnutesNiche

            Hi, Katie. You are correct!

    • singlemom_4

      A lot of people grew up poor from different races and backgrounds and they didn’t grow up to kill people. Most found a way to pull themselves up out of poverty. Hell, back in 1930s, during the Great Depression, most people were poor and weren’t killing folks because of poverty. I don’t agree with blaming anyone for this man’s mindset. It was a senseless killing. It’s not black women’s fault. Black men have failed their families by not taking responsibility for the children they create, by abandoning them. Men are suppose to be leaders, providers, and protectors of their families. I do agree that people shouldn’t have children they can’t afford to take care, but that certainly includes black men, any man or woman. Let’s put the blame where it belongs on this guy, he’s the one who committed this senseless killing.

      • https://knutesniche.wordpress.com/ KnutesNiche

        singlemom_4 wrote, *”A lot of people grew up poor from different races and backgrounds and they didn’t grow up to kill people. Most found a way to pull themselves up out of poverty. Hell, back in 1930s, during the Great Depression, most people were poor and weren’t killing folks because of poverty.”*

        Hello, Ms. SM4. I’m sorry to pick on moms, though since ancient times they are the primary caregivers we look to keep us safe, cared for and loved right from our start.

        In the 30s, were there numerous .gov programs offering to provide full support for mothers and their children? Did people in the 30s mostly birth children from love and commitment to a caring partner, or did a significant number of 1930s people exploit and abuse .gov. programs, birthing children for the purpose of escaping the dysfunctional abusive home environment they were raised in? Emotional and physically abusive family environments like this Brooklyn, NY mom created for her children.

        https://knutesniche.wordpress.com/brooklyns-boom-box-mom/

        singlemom_4 wrote, *”I don’t agree with blaming anyone for this man’s mindset. It was a senseless killing. It’s not black women’s fault.”*

        You are right, it is not “black women’s” fault, the American people are at fault for failing to protect children from immature single moms disregarding the emotional and physical well being of their child(ren). The American people are responsible for creating social assistance programs that depressed people dealing with the effects of racism understandably took advantage of.

        Though I am not focused on the mistakes and human ignorance of our past. I am more concerned with the growing number of Americans sharing their thoughts, concerns and the pain they are experiencing from witnessing a significant number of African American females messing up their children’s minds, as well as perpetuating negative stereotypes about people of color.

        https://knutesniche.wordpress.com/2015/11/13/video-archive-american-men-women-sharing-thoughts-about-some-african-american-women-moms/

        singlemom_4 wrote, *”Black men have failed their families by not taking responsibility for the children they create, by abandoning them.”*

        https://youtu.be/jt4lnbqKwCs?t=5m21s

        singlemom_4 wrote, *”Let’s put the blame where it belongs on this guy, he’s the one who committed this senseless killing”*

        With all due respect I must disagree. I spent the first twelve years of my police career as a uniformed Brooklyn, NY cop, robbery and homicide investigator. I’ve met many depressed, angry teens and adults, mostly males, who did not give a flying cow about their own lives or the lives of their neighbors.

        I’ve also met the single-moms who emotionally damaged and maltreated teens and adults during a critical period of their childhood development.

        https://knutesniche.wordpress.com/victim-of-abuse/

        Singlemom, thanks for your reply.

        Peace.

        • BLACKLOVE

          str8 bs….SORRY EXCUSE FOR A REJECT WHO HAS BEEN REJECTED MANY TIMES AND COULDNT TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!! NOT TO MENTION THE DRUGS THAT HELP PERPETUATE THE SITUATION!!!! THESE DUDES SHOULD LET GO OF THEIR MOLLY POPPING AND RESORT BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES!!!! NO WAY WILL I ACCEPT THAT PHONY EXCUSE OF BEING POOR TO EXCUSE MURDERING A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN!!!!!

      • https://knutesniche.wordpress.com/ KnutesNiche

        Hi, singlemom_4.

        I hope you learned a lil something from our conversation that changes the way you view the many American kids who are emotionally and physically harmed by their maternal caregivers.

        Peace.

    • ChocolateCity

      bitch…ALL OF AMERICA NEEDS FIXING. STFU

    • Raykel White

      So….you’re basically blaming the victim. It’s somehow her fault this m̶a̶n̶ disgusting monster killed her? When you start making excuses for a killer…you’ve lost it. Personal responsibility is what this man lacks. My Uncle was raised by my grandmother, a Black woman, single handed. It was because she lost her husband to illness. He turned out fine because my grandmother raised him to be an upstanding man. He has never had a problem with attracting women and he doesn’t make excuses for himself when he fails, he just tries again. He never blames his mother or Black women. Why? BECAUSE HE’S A MAN. Not a boy. He didn’t need any one on one time with a father figure to teach him how, he just watched and learned from other men he admired and knew instinctively what to do. You cannot blame poverty for everything. A Black woman can do everything right and her children could still turn out rotten. A Black woman could marry to a Black man and he could end up abusing her and she leaves him. Or like my grandmother, widowed. You cannot blame the victim for a failed, defective human being taking upon themselves to be executioner. This horrible person that killed this woman is not to be pitied in anyway. The worse part about this is you felt the need to defend him because I can tell, you saw something in him that reminded you….of yourself. You better change.

      • https://knutesniche.wordpress.com/ KnutesNiche

        Raykel White wrote, *”So….you’re basically blaming the victim. It’s somehow her fault this m?a?n? disgusting monster killed her? When you start making excuses for a killer…you’ve lost it.”*

        Hello, Raykel. I am sorry you read my original comment to this thread and came away believing I blamed an innocent homicide victim for being stripped of her life by an EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED PERSON.

        Raykel White wrote, *”Personal responsibility is what this man lacks. My Uncle was raised by my grandmother, a Black woman, single handed. It was because she lost her husband to illness. He turned out fine because my grandmother raised him to be an upstanding man.”*

        Raykel, apparently much like the overwhelming number of primary maternal caregivers across our nation, your grandmother is a responsible, caring, loving person who realized she has a responsibility to your young uncle, as well as her community to raise and nurture a human who develops into a fairly, happy responsible adult.

        Sadly Raykel, there is a significant population of PRIMARY MATERNAL CAREGIVERS who do not recognize they have a parental and societal RESPONSIBILITY to raise well adjusted children maturing into well adjusted, peaceful fairly responsible teens and adults.

        I am deeply concerned about the growing number of Americans producing Youtube vids addressing the lack of personal responsibility exhibited by a significant population of African American females who they believe are harming our nations children as well as perpetuating negative stereotypes impeding American of African descent from enjoying the full respect all peaceful American have a right to enjoy.

        Raykel, do you share these people’s concerns and thoughts, or do you reject the concerns these Americans feel so strongly about they are willing to identify themselves, placing themselves and reputations at risk of being harmed by those who disagree with them?

        https://knutesniche.wordpress.com/2015/11/13/video-archive-american-men-women-sharing-thoughts-about-some-african-american-women-moms/

        Raykel White wrote, *”You cannot blame poverty for everything. A Black woman can do everything right and her children could still turn out rotten. A Black woman could marry to a Black man and he could end up abusing her and she leaves him. Or like my grandmother, widowed.”*

        Raykel, I spent the first twelve years of my police career investigating violence in the Brooklyn, NY community Shawn Jay Z Carter joyously raps about he and his gangs/crew/posse attempting to destroy with their poison drug operation and semi-automatic MACK MILLIS”.

        For nearly twelve years I regularly witnessed the emotional and physical pain, and homicide or drug overdose deaths Shawn and several drug crews/gangs/posse’s like his caused to peaceful Brooklyn residents before I began to experience levels of stress and anxiety I felt were NOT healthy for me, causing me to become concerned for my emotional and physical well being which after twelve years forced me to abandon a community I came to consider my second home because I spent so much time there, making many friendships within the community.

        https://knutesniche.wordpress.com/2015/06/03/jay-z-raps-about-child-abuse-the-fear-and-harm-he-caused-to-peaceful-people/

        During those twelve years on a near-daily basis I witnessed a significant population of DEPRESSED, IMMATURE, IRRESPONSIBLE, APATHETIC UNCARING, UNLOVING “living wild” (Kendrick Lamar’s characterization of his mom’s violent felon embracing lifestyle) maternal caregivers EMOTIONALLY damaging young developing children who matured into depressed, uncaring, apathetic, irresponsible, immature, unpredictable sometimes suicidal *(NY Times May 18, 2015 – Rise in Suicide by Black Children Surprises Researchers)* teens and adults much like Kendrick and Tupac Shakur, both of whom rapped or spoke about childhood, teen and adult depression as well as experiencing suicidal thoughts.

        Raykel, I also witnessed many of these immature, mostly single moms building families before acquiring the practical skills, PATIENCE and means to provide their children with a safe, fairly happy Average Joe and Josie American kid childhood Kendrick Lamar laments he, his three siblings and numerous cousins were deprived of enjoying by their “living wild” violent felon family and community members.

        https://knutesniche.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/laweekly-lamar-abuse.png (paragraph eight)

        Raykel, I spent twelve years experiencing emotional pain watching irresponsible moms CREATING poverty by ignoring their PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY to their children and community.

        Raykel, did Baltimore mom Toya Graham have a moral and ethical right to introduce SIX CHILDREN to a life of pain and struggle?

        Did Mrs. Tavis Smiley have a moral and ethical right to introduce TEN CHILDREN to a life of pain and struggle…during a May 2015 Fox News discussion about poverty Tavis revealed his NINE brothers and sisters are today still struggling with poverty.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cukVPhJrR0M

        Raykel, do you believe Ms. Graham and Mrs. Smiley had a RIGHT or were acting responsibly when they knowingly introduced SIXTEEN human lives to a life of hardship, pain and struggle?

        Raykel, do you believe as I do that irresponsible, immature teen moms like Ms. Graham and Mrs. Smiley are responsible for CREATING POVERTY?

        Raykel, Do you believe as I do that Ms. Graham and Mrs Smiley should be viewed as CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT moms for failing in their parental duty to their children and moral/societal obligation to their community and NATION to place the well being of their children ABOVE ALL ELSE?

        Raykel White wrote, *”You cannot blame the victim for a failed, defective human being taking upon themselves to be executioner. This horrible person that killed this woman is not to be pitied in anyway.”*

        Raykel, on a regular basis I witnessed irresponsible parental figures raising and nurturing “failed, defective human beings.” Frankly, I am just as appalled as you are by Charles McKinney’s madness.

        However, unlike you and many other caring Americans, I am willing to look at the reason for why men like Mr. Charles McKinney embrace madness.

        Of course I could be wrong in believing Mr. Charles McKinney was exposed to childhood abuse and trauma during a critical period of his childhood development.

        Though I am not wrong for believing Freddie Gray, Michael Singleton, Michael Brown, Dwayne “Lil Wayne” Carter, Curtis ’50 Cent” Jackson, Kendrick Lamar, Shawn Jay Z Carter, Tupac Shakur and countless numbers of American children born over the past two generations who matured into depressed teens and adults, were emotionally TRAUMATIZED and neglected by moms who were PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for placing the well being of their children ABOVE ALL ELSE!

        Raykel White wrote, *”The worse part about this is you felt the need to defend him because I can tell, you saw something in him that reminded you….of yourself. You better change.

        Raykel, after reading this reply do you still believe I NEED TO CHANGE?

        Or are you willing to recognize Society needs to change our attitude, policies and laws for protecting children from being emotionally traumatized and often scarred for life by the selfish, irresponsible behaviors of moms I described in this writing?

        Raykel, I look forward to reading your reply OR reading the thoughts and concerns of others reading this discussion.

        Again, I’m sorry to pick on moms, though since ancient times they are the primary caregivers we look to keep us safe, cared for and loved right from our start.

        Peace.
        _________________
        Doctors Ross and Dietz offer insights into how our Early Childhood Development plays a key role in determining the type of individual we mature into.

        Robert K. Ross, MD, President and CEO of The California Endowment, addressed inmates at Ironwood State Prison offering a compelling overview of the role that exposure to childhood trauma plays in the lives of *emotionally troubled* and chronically ill American teens and adults.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsCNuB_KBUw

        At 2:12:25 in this documentary about Mafia hitman and victim of Early Childhood Trauma/Abuse, Richard “The Iceman” Kuklinski, Dr. Park Dietz explains why young Richard most likely developed into a emotionally disturbed, paranoid, cruel, heartless teen and man who did not give a frig about anyone else, including his wife and kids.

        https://youtu.be/QXgi72W2H7U?t=2h12m25s
        __________________________
        *(NY Times May 18, 2015 – Rise in Suicide by Black Children Surprises Researchers)*

        Black *(Children’s)* Lives Matter; Take Pride In Parenting; *End Our National Epidemic of Child Abuse and Neglect*; End Community Violence, Police Fear & Educator’s Frustrations

      • https://knutesniche.wordpress.com/ KnutesNiche

        Hi, Raykel. It’s been three days since you elected to engage in discussion about immature moms creating hardships for their children that can cause some kids to mature into stone cold killers.

        Raykel I hope you are Okay because I am really looking forward to your reply.

        Peace.

  • NJnative

    The
    Lord just wanted a beautiful person such as Janese at his side. I hope God
    tends to her hurting family. RIP Janese.

  • Todd

    Male entitlement killed Janese Talton-Jackson.

    • ChocolateCity

      mental illness killed her.

      • Paradoxical Intention

        Plenty of people manage to be mentally ill without murdering people. Please don’t throw me and so many other people under the bus because you don’t want to believe a “sane” person could do such a thing.

        • KnowbodyXXX

          I don’t think that throws the mentally ill under the bus. Though I’m not sure if mental illness applies in this case.

          • Paradoxical Intention

            I think you misunderstand. When we insinuate that mental illness is the cause of something horrible like this without any prior evidence that this particular individual has mental illness, or if their mental illness can even contribute to doing something like this, it does two things:

            1. It does exactly what ChocolateCity is trying to do. It deflects from and attempts to silence other people who point out that things like male entitlement have quite a bit to do with this case, and

            2. It makes it a hell of a lot harder for people who do have mental illness to want to come forward and get some help, because they don’t want to be viewed as a “bad person” for being mentally ill. They don’t want to be viewed as the same as someone who would murder someone else in cold blood, because “mental illness did this terrible thing”, ergo, all mentally ill people are bad people for something they have no control over.

            And when people say “No, I just want to help by pointing out this person could be mentally ill!”, what we hear is “I just want to institutionalize all mentally ill people so I don’t have to deal with it, because they’re dangerous, even though I’m not a mental health professional and have no authority to diagnose or treat anyone!”

            Social stigma’s a hell of a thing, and when we conflate people who have mental illness with men who shoot women for saying “no” to them it absolves “sane” people of responsibility and makes them feel good to not be “like that”, but it makes mentally ill people feel like shit because we’re apparently “like that” no matter our diagnoses.

          • KnowbodyXXX

            Most mental illnesses do not drive violent behavior but there are a few that do. To deny this because of some social stigma is to politicize science. If someone says, “I wonder if he’s mentally ill”, and you hear “we should institutionalize all of the mentally ill because they’re all dangerous”, then that is a problem you must work through. Often times, we don’t hear things as they are, we hear things as WE are.

    • http://cathyyoung.wordpress.com Cathy Young

      Get out of here with your disgusting sexism.

      • Todd

        I’m not convinced that you aren’t either a) being sarcastic or b) misunderstanding what I’m saying.

        What I’m saying is the perpetrator believed that he, as a male, was entitled to Janese’s attention. Janese (as is her right) refused to give him this attention. Therefore, he felt his entitlement was violated, and committed his horrible, murderous act.

        I certainly do not believe that a man has a right to receive any attention from a woman.

        • http://cathyyoung.wordpress.com Cathy Young

          (1) You know nothing about his motive. He may be mentally ill (that’s not an excuse, of course, but my point is that you and others are speculating with no facts).

          (2) No one believes that a man has a “right” to a woman’s attention.

          (3) Some people are entitled and angry, and may lash out violently if denied something they want. It’s not a gender-specific thing. Was this a case of “female entitlement”? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205067/Woman-stabbed-man-refused-sex-threatened-rape-went-hospital-treatment.html

          • Todd

            1) I agree that mental illness isn’t a motive. Why did you bring it up? There could be a different, more personal motive, but shutting up about something that terrorizes many female friends of mine isn’t useful.

            2) http://www.stopstreetharassment.org/resources/statistics/sshstudies/ The men who catcall these women sure seem to feel that they have a right to a woman’s attention.

            3) This is also obscuring the issue. There are clearly women who behave horribly, but the question at hand is male behavior.

            The women in your article, though, didn’t shoot a guy in a club for brushing them off; they invited someone back to their house, and robbed and stabbed him afterwards. He sized them up and thought “sure, I’ll go to your house with you. I feel safe.” Janese was leaving the club–trying to remove herself from the situation. She may not have had an opportunity to feel safe.

  • Gracie

    #‎Restinpower #JaneseTaltonJackson I weep for your three babies. These types of men are void of all human emotion. Monsters. Incapable #monsters. They can’t feel. They have no idea of how it is to feel. How terrifying it is to be a #woman taught to say, #NO! Brave enough to say, NO, to anything that isn’t right. A woman that chooses to say, NO! And how NO, can cost us our lives! How being polite is such a fucking rip off! Monster #CharlesMckinney did you NOT hear her say NO?! Because to acknowledge her #truth would expose your lie-would give you a conscious moreover a heart. You are soulless. You must’ve spent your entire soulless life this way #lonly #coward. I’m sick with you! Despicable you! ‪‪#‎stopviolenceagainstwomen‬ #wecansaynoandnotdieforit ‪#‎monstersinthemasksofmen‬

  • Shh-it’s-a-secret

    I know this McKinney guy’s brother and I cant help but feel sorry for this innocent woman🙁 It’s horrible and I can’t believe he would do this. Prayers go to Janese’s family… I hope this guy gets locked up for good…. No offense Dion I know it’s your brother and all but you know what I mean.. 😔

  • Todd Leonard

    once again, and individual with mental issues has a gun.

  • ACE CHAMPION

    This shit pisses me tf off!

  • Raykel White

    Why?! Why did he do this?! To waste a precious life on something SO trivial. I just…I just can’t even process this. I can’t believe a person had to die because of something like this. What is our world coming to?

  • Wendy Cilnyk

    The same thing happened about a year ago. When I read this I thought it was the same article. Same exact situation. What freak of nature these guys are to kill a woman because she doesn’t want to spend time him. Someone once said that a man was asked what scares him about women and he said rejection, when a woman was asked the same thing she said she was afraid he would kill her.

  • Cheryl

    Kill him slowly and painfully. What a disgusting piece of human flesh he is – I hope his “family” enjoyed reading all of the comments about their “boy”.

    • blavergne

      I can’t believe this has happened my heart is very broken and it makes you want to hurt the person for the pain he has caused for no justifying reason. She was somebody and he choose the day to end her life on earth not good at all…a beautiful young vibrant female reminds me of my daughters. It’s very heartbreaking I can’t imagine what the family is going threw right now My prayers are with the family

  • cory raskel

    sick of this? come have fun with us. https://voat.co/v/Niggers/

  • StraightG

    Tasty headlines and now people want to confront issues in Homewood. Get your retweets, thumbs up while you can.What ever you’re saying likely doesn’t help the neighborhood and isn’t even a preventative measure. I don’t get it.

  • kevin75467

    she must have angered him by dissing him.. not that its her fault but she should watch what she says to certain people.. just another lost sheep who got torn apart by a wolf. Also with kids what is she doing boozing at a bar late at night? ????????? 1 Peter 5:8 – Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.

  • Ang Nihtgenga

    Did the shooter have a criminal record? Should he have been in jail?

  • http://www.thehiphoprecords.com/posts/ TheHipHopRecords

    If women were not so picky, this would not happen. Women should see this as a warning. Men will be forced to kill you, if you deny men sex, and only have sex with a select few. It’s your choice

    • MsShaynaT

      Troll account.