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Florida college football player shot after alleged road rage incident

Hassan Childs (Photo Source: Facebook/ Hassan Childs)

Hassan Childs (Photo Source: Facebook/ Hassan Childs)

An alleged case of road rage has resulted in the shooting of a football player from the University of South Florida in Tampa over the weekend. According to police, on Saturday, Hassan Childs, 22, got into an altercation with a man identified as Jovanni Jimenez, 26, at the Eagles Point Apartments at Tampa Palms. What started the incident is unclear and it grew so heated that Childs was shot by Jimenez, who called the police to report the shooting.

Police state that Jimenez claimed Childs pointed a gun at him while he was in his car with his wife and child. In response, Jimenez pulled his own weapon in self-defense and shot Childs three times hitting him in the upper arm and chest. Childs was transported to a local hospital and is listed in stable condition. The case is still under investigation and the Hillsborough County State Attorney’s Office will determine if any charges should be filed in the shooting.

USF head coach Charlie Strong said in a statement, “Thankfully, Hassan is in stable condition and being well cared for and no one else was injured. There is an ongoing investigation of the incident and we are in the process of gathering further information. Out of respect for the integrity of the investigation, we cannot comment further at this time.”

Childs has no criminal record, unlike Jimenez, who was arrested in 2015 for misdemeanor domestic violence but was never prosecuted. Jimenez was also arrested in February 2012 on misdemeanor charges of opposing an officer without violence and later pleaded no contest. Florida has a controversial stand your ground law that has been frequently in the news. The most controversial incident was the shooting of unarmed Black teen Trayvon Martin by racist George Zimmerman. Zimmerman stalked Martin and shot him after being told to wait for police in Sanford, Florida. Martin was on his way back from a local store when Zimmerman killed the teen.



137 Comments

  1. Jaime Andres Pretell on March 28, 2017 at 5:39 am

    Load of BS. Zimmerman didn’t stalk Martin nor did he go anywhere that police had told him not to.

    • SpiceGirl on March 28, 2017 at 7:35 am

      were you there??? So many questions!!

      • Jaime Andres Pretell on March 28, 2017 at 11:36 am

        No need. The recording is quite clear.

        • SpiceGirl on March 28, 2017 at 11:52 am

          I was speaking of Zimmerman sir….

          • Jaime Andres Pretell on March 28, 2017 at 2:59 pm

            So was I.



          • SpiceGirl on March 28, 2017 at 3:02 pm

            what recording are you speaking of with Zimmerman…last I checked…NO ONE was around when he killed that young man……



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on March 28, 2017 at 3:21 pm

            The non emergency call. The only call that indicates any following. When the dispatcher asks which direction Martin went, Zimmerman exits his car to maintain a line of sight. 30 seconds later, he asks if he is following, you can hear the movement in the wind and his speaking. He says yes. The dispatcher says it is not neccessary. That is the full extent of following and the full extent of communication about that following. Zimmerman says ok and has a 3 minute conversation with the dispatcher where he is no longer moving and has lost sight of Martin. Martin had plenty of time to get home. Yet the fight occured near the entrance of the alley. Where Zimmerman’s keys were found and Martin’s body was found. Only way Martin and Zimmerman had a confrontation there is because Martin returned. Nothing Zimmerman did qualifies legally as stalking and there was no command given by police. The dispatcher suggestion was not a command, and Zimmerman did follow it.



          • SpiceGirl on March 29, 2017 at 7:56 am

            sooooo he shoots the boy…for what reason?????



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on March 29, 2017 at 9:14 am

            Because he was attacked and mounted.



          • SpiceGirl on March 29, 2017 at 9:26 am

            Mounted??



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on March 29, 2017 at 1:27 pm

            Yes, based on the testimony of both George Zimmerman and the corroboration of the only eye witness to the fight John Good.



          • Skyline Titans on April 3, 2017 at 1:36 am

            Since you say your are an attorney, answer this question without any deflection or alternative facts. A simple yes or no. Did Trayvon have a constitutional right to walk down the street without being murdered?? Yes or No?? Spoiler alert, any bets he will. 1.Not answer 2. Reply saying it’s not a Yes or No it’s more complicated than that 3. Totally deflect and start talking about something else to cloud the issue and avoid the question.



          • SrAgri on April 3, 2017 at 9:58 am

            You like yes or no questions, so here’s one for you:

            Did Zimmerman have a right to defend himself against being beaten to death?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 3, 2017 at 1:33 pm

            Both had a constitutional right to walk in public spaces. Didn’t give Martin right to commit assault. But nice amateurish try.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 9:32 am

            Nice attempt at a leading question. Trayvon had a right to walk on the street. He did not have a right to commit assault.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 9:38 am

            Hey my white supremacist lawyer buddy, where you been?? It’s been awhile. I hope you have been busy locking up some of these white terrorist, who have been running amock lately.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 10:37 am

            Hey, my racist black power moron, keep deluding yourself that I am white, or support white supremacy. Any race is a new project onto others is just your own bullshit.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 10:55 am

            Be proud of who and what you are. Your picture on your YouTube surely looks white.

            Plus only a white supremacist or psychopath would defend a racist murderer and blame a child for his own murder.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 11:45 am

            Usual idiocy by a Black racist. Sorry, wemixed people come in all colors, from light to dark. Only a Black racist would assume everyone else is racist for pointing out facts.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 12:16 pm

            Yeah, that is exactly how a white supremacist responds when called out. First, conveniently claim they are not white. Followed by blaming everyone else for systematic racism. Especially when your argument is devoid of any facts or logic. But rather the often used “I am white and I say so”.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 12:25 pm

            Usual bullshit by a Black racist who claims anyone that disagreeswith them is an Uncle Tom, or aWhite Supremacist. ? By the way, you are no moor faker. Your ancestor came from below the Sahara. My moro ancestors are documented. I don’t hide behind a screen name like you do.?



    • Jason on March 28, 2017 at 2:36 pm

      bullshit

      • Jaime Andres Pretell on March 28, 2017 at 3:01 pm

        Maybe to your infantile mind. But not to anyone who looks at evidence in a forensic sense it isn’t.

        • Jason on March 29, 2017 at 11:50 am

          I guess you are a forensic expert. Ok. That explains it. You have the expertise. You White Supremacist suspects are oh so logical in your belief that everything Black = criminal. Yours is the type that condemns Emmett Till for “whistling” at a White woman, but remain silent after the bitch admits she was full of it. Yep – we are to believe that you are logical and unbiased in your commentary about Black people. I bet you even believe that Tamir Rice was a criminal for playing in the park with a TOY gun.

          • Jaime Andres Pretell on March 29, 2017 at 1:23 pm

            Usual asinine response from a lifelong victimist. As an attorney who deals with forensic evidence, I look at each case individually, and not by color. That is why I differentiate cases like that of Tamir Rice, Eric Garner and Oscar Grant where, even if there were errors commited by the victims, it was clear that police negligence deserved manslaughter charges, vs cases like Rekia Boyd and Ammadou Diallo where victims were completely innocent and where the first cop deserved murder charges and the second deserves manslaughter in the 1st vs cases like that of Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown which were arquitects of their own demise, vs cases like Jordan Davis or Emmit Till where the mens rea was clearly enough for Murder charges even though Davis did exacerbate the situstion by becoming confrontational. An argument with no imminent threat doesn’t give permission to shoot. The fact that you accuse me of White supremacy shows me one, that you think I am White, which I am not, and two that you think in terms or races and victims by color not circumstances. That shows clearly that you are the racist, not me.



          • Jason on March 30, 2017 at 10:59 am

            I guess it is true about law degrees being given out in mass these days. Your being a lawyer just gives you an even bigger reason to hide behind your White Supremacy OR your support for it. You don’t have to be a White person to be a supporter of White Supremacy, and that is exactly why it has persisted as long as it has.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on March 30, 2017 at 11:30 am

            More mass idiocy. Sorry bub, don’t believe in White Supremacy, nor do I believe in Black victimism. But your separatism and victimism is actually helping perpetuate the burdens that the Afrodescent populations suffer, including mine.



          • Jason on March 30, 2017 at 4:26 pm

            The fact that you still believe anything that a documented violent thug like Zimmerman is saying proves you are at minimum a fraud and part of the problem in Black society and this nation. People like you who still defend the murder of Michael Brown while omitting the fact that the testimony of a confirmed White Supremacist (who wasn’t even there) was taken during grand jury testimony is another indicator that you are a fraud and a disgrace. If you are truly a Black person – you need to ensure you study up on what happened to collaborators during the Haitian Revolution.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on March 30, 2017 at 5:01 pm

            The fact that you claim Zimmerman is violent, without evidence, and I believe the physical evidence. The fact that the evidence also cleared Darren Wilson, not any Supremacist, the fact that Eric Holder’s DOJ couldn’t find anything as much as they wanted, shows that you are just plain stupid, not that any rwcism was involved. Go back to your cult. While you are at it, tell Crump to finally sue Zimmerman and Wilson if he has any evidence. Because all he tried to do is get cash settlements, not prove a case.



          • Jason on March 30, 2017 at 7:47 pm

            I am done and bored with you. Zimmerman has repeatedly been in trouble every year since his acquittal. I guess you have to carry someone’s water, so it might as well be for your White master. Later coon.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on March 31, 2017 at 3:02 pm

            Whatever dumdum. Zimmerman suffers from PTSD and probably Stockholm syndrome, no surprise he has trouble now he didn’t have before his encounter with Martin.



          • Skyline Titans on April 3, 2017 at 1:23 am

            Lmao!!!???? A violent racist murderer suffering from PTSD? Really? Like my stomach is literally sore from laughing so hard. I guess you would say anything to justify a psychopaths behavior. Looks like you are playing the victim card for your buddy Zimmerman. The same card you say black people need to stop playing…interesting!



          • Skyline Titans on April 3, 2017 at 10:23 am

            @ Jaime Andres Pretell. I can’t be surprised by your white supremacist mindset because your degenerate pathology is in your nature. One cannot expect you to act or think humanely, when you are desendants of Neanderthals which were a human like species.

            The Neanderthals were cave dwelling savages.They were very animalistic in their behavior, crawling around on their knuckles, grunting and piling feces to make fires. Scientist have already concluded Neanderthal DNA in whites, which means you are not fully human. They further confirmed whites also have rhesus monkey DNA. That is why 15% of whites are still born with tails, which are removed at birth. Hence the origin of the medical term “tail bone. Google image search can provide illustrations of that for those interested in seeing. So, because of this we cannot truely expect you to have any real or genuine “human” like empathy or compassion for others.

            You can only truely act and think on a very low animalistic level. That is why when the Moors brought you out of the caves to civilize you. They could only get you to surpress that savagery temporarily. That is why thousands of yrs later whites still act and think on a animlistic level, such as being extremely violent and having an infatuation with raw meat and having hair lice(examples may be trivial, but nonetheless relevant ). It also further explains their fondness for sex with animals, preferably dogs. They dont view it as outer species sex. That is why thousands of them practice bestiality religiously to this very day.

            Furthermore whites are not natural to the planet, therefore have no real connection or “soul”. It further explains their lack of a moral compass so to speak. Whites tend to believe their degenerate behavior is somehow normal, in way they are correct. It is normal to them.

            As true human beings (hue meaning color). We make the mistake of trying to judge and analyze white peoples behavior from a human or ethical stanndpoint. We think that because they appear to be human, that they think like us. However they have proven without a shadow of a doubt, time and time again that is simply not the case.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 3, 2017 at 12:53 pm

            LMAO! Your pseudoscientific racial beliefs only confirm your own racism.
            And George wasn’t White?
            http://ferris-pages.org/ISAR/academic-controversies/mehler.htm



          • SrAgri on April 3, 2017 at 2:58 pm

            Wow. I don’t think the KKK has come out with any propaganda that ridiculous and racist. You are seriously demented.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 3, 2017 at 12:54 pm

            Not my fault you can’t handle facts.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 9:30 am

            Unfortunately, you have yet to show that he was violent, racist or a murderer, so the rest of your rhetoric is just empty verbiage as usual. Keep projecting your own psychosomatic reactions to your cognitive dissonance with the truth. Keep ignoring the fact that Hispanics, Africans, Afro-Latinos and some Afro-Caribbeans (depends on island) do not have the same crime rates or deaths by cops that African Amricans do.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoHAG9UFaKI
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEYVCNgYA6s
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJfajpqRVXE



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 9:41 am

            Me having to prove George Zimmerman is violent, racist and a murderer??? Really? Now you are just trolling for attention.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 9:47 am

            Welcome to the real world where you are innocent till proven guilty. You are the textbook definition of a troll.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 9:56 am

            Lol, yeah sure!



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 11:49 am

            Translation: I am Black and I am playing the Black card so everything I say must be taken as gospel.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 12:41 pm

            Yes, you are correct! My experience absolutely overrides your opinion. Again how does your opinion override a black person experience? When that is something you have never experienced??

            Therefore aren’t you proving, that you are a racist and white supremacist by whining about someone, who is speaking of their subjugation or experience in a white supremacist society? If there is no more racism or white supremacy. Then why do racist whites spend so much time saying it isn’t? Who are you trying to convince??

            Especially when someone playing the black card as you state or complaining about white supremacy. Does not change your social status as whites in this country. Nor does it create some mythical laws blacks created to purposely discriminate against you.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 12:47 pm

            Oh please, your colloquial biased subjective opinion of what you experienced, hardly translates to the experiences of all Blacks, or the mentality of all Whites.by your logic, I should be racist against White, Black, Hispanic and Native Americans because I have experienced racism from racists in every one of those groups. No, I know how to differentiate colloquial local experiences from the bigger picture.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 1:10 pm

            Ok, your babble is starting to lose me. Now you are just making up false experiences to justify your non existence argument.

            No white person in this country has ever experienced any racism, so stop it! Racism is not name calling. Or hurting your feelings!! It is a system specifically designed to discriminate or subjugate a specific group of people. Which in this country happens to be black people. J



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 1:37 pm

            More BS from a clueless one. Systemic or Institutional racism is but one type of racism. And yes, Blacks can be very racist.
            http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Prejudice_plus_power



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 1:54 pm

            Other than name calling. Name one law in the United States blacks created and had passed that systematically or institutionally discriminated against white men and women? Just one?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 1:38 pm


          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 1:55 pm

            Name one law created by blacks that specifically targets Asian or whites?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 1:39 pm


          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 1:40 pm

            And, by the way, Native Americans have it much worse than Black people in this country, quit whining.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 1:49 pm

            Yeah sure they do! But yet again how would you know? And you bet not say you are half Native American or some $5 dollar Indian?? Lol!?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 1:40 pm

            Keep showing how clueless you are.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 1:56 pm

            Typical response when boxed in with logic.



          • melgoza on April 3, 2017 at 6:22 pm

            Martin was also a documented trouble maker
            You love murder when it’s a white person.
            You even dance in the blood.



          • Jason on April 3, 2017 at 6:44 pm

            Would love to see your blood



          • melgoza on April 11, 2017 at 3:41 pm

            Not before you’re blinded by your own, gutless shrew!



          • Skyline Titans on April 11, 2017 at 1:06 am

            Stop your lies!! Trayvon wasn’t a documented trouble maker. He was a honor roll student, with plans to either be an aeronautics engineer or pilot. Always trying to rewrite history and demonize blk victims of white savagery huh? No surprise you have a degenerate mindset. You trying to demonize a child victim is eerily similiar to those Catholic priest who blame children for being molested. Saying the children “seduced” them, implying it was the children’s fault. So typical!http://www.snopes.com/trayvon-martin-space-camp/



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 5:00 am

            Sorry, but honor roll students don’t get suspended over 7 times and get kicked out of their houses. Whatever good things he was up to when he was 14 living with Alicia Stanley went downhill when his father divorced her. That aviation camp was in 2009, and had nothing to do with his grades in school. In 2012 he had already gotten into drugs and other illegal activities, probably as a reaction of loosing Alicia Stanley as a mother figure and being forced to transfer schools.



          • melgoza on April 11, 2017 at 3:52 pm

            What a bunch of tripe. He was easily on the toad to a career in criminality.

            Aeronautics engineer? BWAHAHAHA

            ” Always trying to rewrite history and demonize blk victims of white savagery huh?”

            Always there to make excuses for criminals and race bait.

            “You trying to demonize a child victim…”

            Yeah, all those pictures of a YOUNG Trayvon didn’t work for your propaganda ministers.

            “…victim is eerily similiar to those Catholic priest who blame children
            for being molested. Saying the children “seduced” them, implying it was the children’s fault. So typical.

            Wow, can you stay on topic? This has nothing to do with Catholic priests.
            Or do you have something you want to get off your chest?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 10:47 am

            Honor roll my ass! Triple suspension in less than one year.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 11:00 am

            So if Trayvon on was your child. Would you still be saying the same thing?



          • melgoza on April 3, 2017 at 6:21 pm

            Nice deflection Jason.
            Jaime is as much a White Supremacist as you are a rapist.



          • Jason on April 3, 2017 at 6:45 pm

            I guess you have nothing to do but hold his nuts.



          • melgoza on April 11, 2017 at 3:55 pm

            While I put them in your mouth.



          • SrAgri on March 30, 2017 at 2:22 pm

            Well-stated, Mr. Pretell!

            It makes me sick to hear people comparing Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown to Emmit Till. It is an insult to Till and others who have died wrongly through the years.

            Every case should be evaluated on its own merits, when the evidence is available, instead of being decided by the race of the parties involved.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on March 30, 2017 at 4:52 pm

            Exactly



        • Skyline Titans on April 2, 2017 at 2:10 am

          What evidence in a forensic sense? Can’t wait to hear this should comical.

          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 3, 2017 at 1:36 pm

            Tons of it. Which specific claim?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 3, 2017 at 1:47 pm


          • Skyline Titans on April 11, 2017 at 1:40 am

            Thanks for that youtube link!! That video absolutely crushes your theory and play on words of Zimmerman “hardly”stalking Trayvon. That video re-actment of the recorded 911 call absolutely proves without a doubt he ran after then began to stalk Trayvon after being told not too. At no time did Zimmerman after losing sight of him, de-escalate the situation by going home and waiting for police to respond. His intentions to harm Trayvon were very clear and evident when he stated,”they are always getting away!” This angered and frustrated Zimmerman, evident by his 911 call tone. He knew he had the “great equalizer” with him and was going to make sure that noone ever “gets away”again! He then surely backed up those words by murdering a child in cold blood.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 4:53 am

            It was an amazon link to a book. Again you obviously didn’t read, but only are spouting more idiocy. At no point was Zimmerman ever told not to follow. And when he was told it was not necessary, it is also clear he stipped because he had a three minute conversation with dispatcher. Plenty of time for Martin to even walk back home.
            Zimmerman didn’t have to deescalate anything as he did nothing wrong and had a right to be in any public space in that complex. In fact, the dispatcher agreed to have police meet him at whatever location he chose.
            The assholes did always get away and he had a right to report any suspicious behavior which he did. Unfortunately, Martin thought he was above the law and chose to attack that ‘creepy ass cracka’ for daring to keep a line of sight on him as he looked at houses in the rain. That is why even though Zimmerman had lost sight of him, Martin came back, confronted and sucker punched Zimmerman. When he mounted and groun and pounded Zimmerman, he gave Zimmerman the right to defend himself and unfortunately for Martin, he had a gun. A gun he saw on Zimmerman’s hip in the struggle as Zimmerman shrimped away from the concrete where his head was being slammed and tried to take the gun away from Zimmerman. That is how he got shot. By his owm actions. Martin was close to 6 feet tall and Martin was 5’5 to 5’7. Martin ws a bully who loved to fight and constantly bragged about it and a criminal who had stolen property in his locker. He also was attempting to either buy or sell an illegal gun. Actions that clearly show he was capable and willing of commiting illegal acts such as robbery, so no, there is no evidence he conclusively not doing anything wrong in the rain, Zimmerman had a right to be supsicious, and Martin, a violent man who bragged about fighting clesrly threw the first punch and started beating Zimmerman up. And Zimmerman defended himself and shot Martin. Justified homicide in self defense.



          • Skyline Titans on April 11, 2017 at 6:02 am

            Again your babble only shows your allergic reaction to logic and facts. But as previously stated, your degenerate pathology shows no progression. It’s somehow always black people faults, which defies both rational and probability. You are incapable of any judgement of yourselves. Your justifacation for this savagery and violence against blacks, by blaming the victims began during the transatlantic slave trade and continues to this very day. How is that possible if you consider yourselves a progressive and civilized people?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 6:08 am

            More empty rhetoric without actually addressing provable facts.



          • Skyline Titans on April 11, 2017 at 7:25 am

            Yeah that’s what I thought.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 7:45 am

            At least you admit your mistake. ??



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 7:48 am

            Blacks do not die at any higher rate than Whites by police when you factor in poverty, crime and population density. Sorry.

            As for bias, addressed it in a blog.
            https://salsassin.wordpress.com/2017/01/05/re-black-crime-rates-what-happens-when-numbers-arent-neutral/



          • SrAgri on April 11, 2017 at 5:19 pm

            You are such a cry baby. Mr. Pretell gives you clear, concise facts and you start in on your “degenerate pathology” nonsense again.

            Mr. Pretell pretty well just summed up the entire Martin-Zimmerman case and you can’t handle it.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 9:18 am

            Sounds like you are projecting your own psychosomatic reactions to your cognitive dissonance with the truth. It is not Black (African Americans) peoples faults. It is Black criminals’ fault, of which White Supremacy in the past is partially responsible. But, at some point in time, they have to take some personal responsibility for continuing the memes in a vicious cycle that destroys the communities they are a part of, and makes them fail, time and time again, while other historically abused ethnic communities continue to grow, like that of Hispanics, and even other Afro-descent communities like that of Africans and some Afro-Caribbeans.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoHAG9UFaKI
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEYVCNgYA6s
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJfajpqRVXE



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 5:05 am

            You want a youtube link? Here ya go:
            https://youtu.be/t3p1vNX-8Ws



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 5:17 am

            Another youtube link
            https://youtu.be/gf39_rBRXQA



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 5:20 am

            Here you go, another one.
            https://youtu.be/bF-Ax5E8EJc



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 5:23 am


          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 5:24 am


          • Skyline Titans on April 11, 2017 at 5:47 am

            Thanks but no thanks! These links showing the trial are not confirming any truth. It simply confirms blks live in Nazi regime overran my white supremacy. Which means you can murder blcks with impunity and not be punished.

            These DA’s, judges and prosecutors deliberately sabotage these cases to uphold this supremacy. White supremacist and suspected white supremacist can only deal with this savagery by blaming the victims. So regardless of what past choices in life the victims made. This somehow without logic, justifies someone else decision to kill them. How is it even possible from a probability standpoint that whites are never wrong in their judgement to murder blcks? But again, it shows the allergic reaction to logic and truth.

            Furthermore it shows the degenerate pathology by whites. If your mindset isnt degenerate. Then why are saying almost verbatim, what the killers of Emmit Till said decades ago? In essence validating their actions somehow by saying, he was a”bad person” or somehow at fault and therefore he deserved it. How come you say the same things a known racist and murderer said 50+ yrs ago?? How can you say that and not be considered a white supremacist or suspected white supremacist?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 6:04 am

            Bla, bla, bla. Empty rhetoric because you can’t address the evidence. And Zimmerman was not White. Try again.



          • Skyline Titans on April 11, 2017 at 6:06 am

            I bet your skin has all sorts of rashes from your allergic reaction to the truth and logic, lol!!



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 9:11 am

            Sounds like you are projecting your own psychosomatic reactions to your cognitive dissonance with the truth.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 9:22 am

            LMAO! Emmit Till was during true White Supremacy/Jim Crow. You live in the past and can’t cope with the present reality.
            Sounds like you are projecting your own psychosomatic reactions to your cognitive dissonance with the truth. Keep ignoring the fact that Hispanics, Africans, Afro-Latinos and some Afro-Caribbeans (depends on island) do not have the same crime rates or deaths by cops that African AMericans do.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoHAG9UFaKI
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEYVCNgYA6s
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJfajpqRVXE



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 9:51 am

            How can anyone other than a real victim of white supremacy dismiss that persons experience with your opinion? When you have and will not ever experience it.

            That is like telling your mother or wife, birthing a child is easy so stop complaining!! You are again dismissing their actual experience with your supposed factual opinion.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 10:44 am

            I can dismiss your bullshit racist ass’ claims because you are clueless about facts. Just as you are cluelless about the experiences of my Afro-Latino and Indigenous ancestors’ experiences. Your black racism is just as bad as white racism.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 10:59 am

            Again, how can your opinion override or dismiss someone’s actual experience?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 11:48 am

            Again, nice try. Your miopic perception you call experience doesn’t trump physical evidencr and the tons of reported facts collected a year.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 12:24 pm

            So if you never experienced something. How does your opinion override a persond actual experience?

            How would you minimize or dismiss your wife or mother’s child birth experience. Regardless of how much they complained, when that is something you never went through?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 12:43 pm

            Not opinion, facts. There is a difference. And, using your example, many more mothers that gave childbirth say something different and the evidence left behind in the birthing room also say something different.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 1:02 pm

            Again if I have never been an attorney sir. How can I say what you complain about being a attorney is BS? And say you are playing the “attorney card”or victim.

            I don’t know how many times you had to take the BAR exam to be licensed. Or the countless hours and nights of studying. Or the anxiety you felt trying your first case.

            How can I look like a sane and rational person. If I say, it can’t be that hard, plenty of people on tv do it. So you are whining.

            If I said that! Your response would similar in length to a master thesis. You would tear into me, like a dog into a steak, for saying something so foolish.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 1:33 pm

            Oh, I am well aware of the fact that you are not an attorney or you would do better researching the facts of the case. Primary evidence is primary evidence, and it is there for you to see. That you ignore it is not my fault.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 1:51 pm

            So what is the purpose of your argument? I will never see it through your lens. So who are you trying to convince?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 5:28 am


          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 5:43 am

            And finally, Attorney General, Eric Holder’s highly politicized Department of Justice and the FBI failed to find any evidence enough for them to prosecute George Zimmerman, and they tried hard. But internet trolls like you think they can do a better job. ??
            https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/federal-officials-close-investigation-death-trayvon-martin



          • Skyline Titans on April 11, 2017 at 5:50 am

            Oh absolutely, they are staying on code to uphold white supremacy.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 6:06 am

            LMAO. Zimmerman ain’t White. Keep trying.



          • Skyline Titans on April 11, 2017 at 6:31 am

            You should probably get that rash from your allergic reaction to the truth checked. Although the term white hispanic is not a correct term, he is still considered white or non black. He certainly got the “you are close enough to white” treatment, which all non blacks get, when accused of harming blacks. Just like the Korean store owner from the famous case that help fuel the LA uprising. She shot a child in the back of the head as she turned to leave after the two argued and she got off as well.

            Also Zimmerman received thousands of dollars from white nationalist and white supremacist on his gofund me page. This happened because they knew non blks are always supported, rewarded and protected when causing harm to black people…

            From all the well publicized cases. Which one in your opinion was not the black persons fault? From Walter Scott, Terrence Crutcher, Eric Gardner, Tamir Rice, Alton Sterling, Philando Castle, Michael Brown, Ezekial Ford, Freddie Gray to name a few. Which one was not their fault??



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 7:37 am

            Hardly, hegot thw far right protection because the media made it into a Stand Your Ground issue, which it wasn’t, getting all the gun rights advocates up in arms. Any White trestment, as you claim, he might have gotten was based on media narratives, not his looks. Zimmerman was never raised White but AfroPeruvian.

            The Korean store owner, innacurately, in my opinion, got leniency because the Korean communitywas constantly being terrorized by Black criminal activity. She still shot Latasha in the back. No self defense.

            Walter Scott started an altercation and used the cop’s tazer on him, so he was at least partially at fault.
            Terence Crutcher was innocent and Shelby need to go to jail.
            Eric Garner was innocent but the media got his killers off by making it a chokehold issue when it should have been a compression or positional asphyxia manslaughter charge and against three cops, not one.
            Tamir Rice, was waiving a real looking gun, but the driver cop should have been charged for gross negligence because he drove up way to close and forced his partner’s hand by puting him in a potentially fatal situation instead of parking at s distance and setting up a perimeter.
            Alton Sterling was a felon with an illegal gun and he reached for it when tackled.
            Philando Castille looks like he was victim of anxious cop, but claims he reached for gun when told not to. Undecided on that one. Favoring guilty until more evidence presented.
            Michael Brown assaulted store owner and cop.
            Ezell Ford was a victim of police brutality. Considering LA’s track record, not surprising.
            Freddy Gray was an accident. And he brought on his own arrest.

            So of the ones you mentioned, 4 possibly 5 were innocent.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 8:00 am

            Like I said, and easily proven by your racislist post, the only proven racist is yourself. I bet you never addresed the killings of Marco Santiago, Christopher Cervini, Daniel Adkins Jr, Dillon Taylor, Michael Arnold, Gilbert Collar, Jan Pawel and Quiana Jenkins Pietrzak, Dylan Noble, Paul Castaway, Redbird Goodblanket, Renee Davis, Loreal Tsingine, Eric Villanueva, Zachary Hammond, David Dehmann, anong many others. You haven’t because your life is perpetually playing the race victim card.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 9:35 am

            Hardly, he got the far right protection because the media made it into a Stand Your Ground issue, which it wasn’t, getting all the gun rights advocates up in arms. Any White treatment, as you claim, he might have gotten was based on media narratives, not his looks. Zimmerman was never raised White but AfroPeruvian.

            The Korean store owner, inaccurately, in my opinion, got leniency because the Korean community was constantly being terrorized by Black criminal activity. She still shot Latasha in the back. No self defense. But there still is blame on Black criminals who radicalized her.

            Walter Scott started an altercation and used the cop’s Tazer on him, so he was at least partially at fault.

            Terence Crutcher was innocent and Shelby need to go to jail.

            Eric Garner was innocent but the media got his killers off by making it a choke-hold issue when it should have been a compression or positional asphyxia manslaughter charge and against three cops, not one.

            Tamir Rice, was waiving a real looking gun, but the driver cop should have been charged for gross negligence because he drove up way to close and forced his partner’s hand by putting him in a potentially fatal situation instead of parking at s distance and setting up a perimeter.

            Alton Sterling was a felon with an illegal gun and he reached for it when tackled.

            Philando Castille looks like he was victim of anxious cop, but claims he reached for gun when told not to. Undecided on that one. Favoring guilty until more evidence presented.

            Michael Brown assaulted store owner and cop.

            Ezell Ford was a victim of police brutality. Considering LA’s track record, not surprising.

            Freddy Gray was an accident. And he brought on his own arrest.

            So of the ones you mentioned, 4 possibly 5 were innocent.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 10:04 am

            So in a post racist and white supremacist society as you stated previously. How is it possible from a probability standpoint, that not 1 of the innocent 4 out of 5 victims you mentioned. Their killers were not brought to justice?? How can you see as a representation of the general public. No justification for their murder. Yet their killers walk free, without ithout so much as a slap on the wrist??



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 10:51 am

            I never said the police system didn’t have issues. Police brutality and negligence is an issue in all under represented communities. It’s not a matter of race, but of resources, as the poor have the worst legal representation. Most poor white people, Hispanics, and Native Americans, that are killed by police, also tend to see the police get off when they don’t do the right thing.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 11:07 am

            If it is never about race, as you and many whites love to say. Then please share with me the comparative example(s) of a black cop(s) shooting a white teen 17 times in the back? Or in the head leaving a party?

            Or a black neighborhood watch gunning down a so called “suspicious” white child holding a can of ice tea and a bag of candy?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 11:53 am

            I didn’t say never, but most times it isn’t. Look up Dillon Taylor, Michael Arnold, Zachary Hammond or Christopher Cervini.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 12:49 pm

            Researching those names you gave me, shows no mention of black cops doing the shooting. Since it is often times not about race as you stated and there IS such a thing as BLACK RACISM.

            Where are the multiple examples of Black cops shooting unarmed whites?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 1:31 pm

            LMAO. Blame the media on that one. They only mention race when It is a White cop and Black shooting victim. For example, Dillon Taylor’s shooter was a Black police officer. Or I could mention Christopher Cervini Daniel Adkins Jr. Both killed by Black civilians. Or I could mention the Pietrzak Jenkins murders. The problem with racist such as you, is that you only investigate evidence that corroborates your beliefs and ignore the rest.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 1:46 pm

            Your examples are getting more desperate with every reply. Again show me a black cop shooting a white person in the back 17 times or running away. Or a black cop shooting a white child with a toy?

            Or how about a black officer shooting a white man laying on his back with hands visibly in the air.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 9:19 am

            LMAO. That was the Holder and Lynch DOJ that was the most pro-Black DOJ ever.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 9:28 am

            More bullshit from a moron that can’t cope with the truth. The link wasn’t for YouTube, but for a book on Amazon. That is how I know you don’t even look at the links but just spout BS. None of the videos show Zimmerman running, one, and other than 30 seconds on the non emergency number call trying to keep a line of sight, no following on foot. Zimmerman didn’t have to de-escalate anything. He was a neighborhood watch, and had every right to walk anywhere in that neighborhood. You are all rhetoric and no facts.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 9:45 am

            I expect you as a white supremacist will think of every justification for the murder of a black child. I wonder if you would have the same vile hatred and excuses if that was your son slaughtered…would you??



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 10:41 am

            Nice try, keep projecting your own racism on to others. Contrary to you, I do protest murders and negligent homicides of innocent Black children like Oscar Grant and Jordan Davis, I just don’t assume every black kid who gets killed is innocent. But I guarantee your racist ass has never protested for any person killed that wasn’t black.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 10:56 am

            So if your child was Trayvon, you would say the same thing?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 11:46 am

            My child wouldn’t suckerpunch nor assault a stranger



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 12:20 pm

            Ok, for the sake of argument. Say your child did sucker punch a stranger. Would you still blame them for their own murder?

            While also calling your child the same names you used to describe Trayvon?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 12:32 pm

            What names have I called him? I just pointed outhis criminal activities before hand. If my child did what he did to Zimmerman, I would feel a lot of grief for failing to stop my son from going down that path, I would not blame his victim.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 12:51 pm

            So where is your grief for Trayvon then? If it is not about race?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 1:26 pm

            LOL. It was left behind in 2012 when I realized the media was selling me a contrived story.
            https://www.facebook.com/jaime.carolyn/posts/179711818812188



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 1:34 pm

            It wasn’t left behind it was never there. There is a reason why people like Zimmerman and race soldiers posing as cops are never punished for harming black people.

            No matter how much white people whine, it will never change black people’s experience living in a Nazi like system.



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 1:42 pm

            Keep dreaming. The difference between you and me is that I can change my opinion once the evidence proves that I was wrong. Your whining is growing boring.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 1:57 pm

            Against those ropes now huh glass jaw)?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on May 29, 2017 at 1:44 pm

            Seriously. Take a college course on evidence and then come to discuss like an adult. You childish posts just show you are a waste of my time.



          • Oak510finest on May 29, 2017 at 2:00 pm

            And “Jaime goes down from the uppercut folks. Let’s see if he can beat the mandatory 8 count? Doesn’t look good he was taking a lot of punishment all night!”



    • Skyline Titans on April 2, 2017 at 1:48 am

      He absolutely STALKED and then murdered a CHILD, no way you can even debate that! He was the one to engage contact with a child not the other way around. TRAYVON was then subsequently murdered for trying to defend himself against that animal. Zimmerman has since proven to be an extremely violent, confrontational and racist individual. Also, didn’t Travon have a constitutional right to walk down the street without being murdered?

      • SrAgri on April 2, 2017 at 12:54 pm

        Your dramatic use of the caps lock key does not make any points. You fail to point to any actual facts and just make a bunch of assertions.

        • Skyline Titans on April 2, 2017 at 10:52 pm

          Lol, I knew you would run scared in the corner and deflect…too predictable. Answer the questions, did Zimmerman engage contact with Trayvon by following him as he stated he was doing from his own words from his recorded 911 call to police, YES or NO? Did Trayvon have a constitutional right to walk down the street without being murdered?

          • SrAgri on April 2, 2017 at 11:11 pm

            So you’re breaking out the old accusation of “deflection” again.

            When you make a bunch of unsupported assertions and someone calls you on it, that is not “deflection”.

            In regards to your comment about Zimmerman following Martin, Jaime Andres Pretell explained the actual facts of this alleged “stalking” very well based on verifiable evidence from the 911 tape.



          • Skyline Titans on April 3, 2017 at 1:06 am

            Lmao! That’s what I thought. Thank you for playing sir you are dismissed.?



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 3, 2017 at 12:50 pm

            Thank you for showing you are clueless.
            https://youtu.be/t3p1vNX-8Ws



          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 3, 2017 at 12:48 pm

            No. The recording clearly shows that he followed for 30 Seconds to keep line of sight and then lost sight of Martin. No evidence of any type of following after that and evidence he was not following in the form of a 3 minute conversation with dispatch. Trayvon has right to walk, so did George. Trayvon did not have right to commit assault.



      • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 3, 2017 at 12:45 pm

        Hardly. No evidence of stalking. Easily provable too. No evidence of any attack by Zimmerman either, but evidence of assault on Zimmerman. Also no evidence of violence in Zimmerman, but evidence of Martin and multiple fights, love of making people bleed and criminal activity. The FBI and DOJ found no evidence of racism. Martin had right to walk in neighborhood. So did Zimmerman. Martin did not have right to assault Zimmerman.

        • Skyline Titans on April 11, 2017 at 1:13 am

          So if Zimmerman who had a gun and was following a child and did not initiate the contact. How did they end up with Zimmerman attacking him? So Trayvon just magically happen to coincidently see some guy (Zimmerman) and with hands filled with skittes and ice tea decided for the heck of to fight a grown man??

          • Jaime Andres Pretell on April 11, 2017 at 4:34 am

            Nice attempt at a leading question. No evidence Zimmerman attacked Martin. But we do know Martin was upset that Zimmermanhad followed him with his car as stated Jeantel. His purchased items were in his hoodie pocket so he had his hands free. He obviously returned to an area he had already left to attack Zimmerman.