Congresswoman Maxine Waters speaking at Dick Gregory’s Celebration of Life | Photo credit: Charmyonne Bailey for Steed Media

We all know that Congresswoman Maxine Waters is a spit fire. The longest-serving Black woman in the House speaks her mind every chance she gets, against any opponent, and on any platform. She has shown time and time again that she can hold her own. Her popularity was heightened after she refused to attend Donald Trump’s presidential inauguration. The 79-year-old was given the nickname “Auntie Maxine” by millennials after clapping back at now-ousted Fox News host Bill O’Reilly. He insulted her hairstyle, saying he was too distracted by her “James Brown wig.” Waters’ response, “I am a strong Black woman. I cannot be intimidated, and I am not going anywhere,” went viral. The incident sparked Black women on social media to start the hashtag #BlackWomenAtWork to express the challenges that Black women face in the workplace and their disgust for O’Reilly’s comment. She also coined the phrase “Reclaiming My Time” after interrupting Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin. She felt that he was dodging her questions during a House Financial Services Committee hearing.

While honoring her long-time friend, legendary Black comedian and civil rights activist Dick Gregory at his celebration of life this weekend, Waters announced to those gathered that she doesn’t have time to be likeable or timid.

“I’ve decided, I’m taking off the gloves. I’ve decided that I have no fear. I’ve decided that I don’t want to be safe. I’m not looking for who likes me and does not like me. It’s time for all of us to walk in the walk of Dick Gregory,” she said. Her fearless comment was a build up to thanking the Cosby family. The Cosby’s sent a tree to Waters when her mother passed away three years ago. Since Bill Cosby is facing sexual assault allegations and has a re-trial set for early Spring 2018, numerous organizations, friends and celebrities have severed ties with him. But Waters says that she sticks by her friends during hard times. “Thank you Bill and Camille Cosby… Ladies and gentlemen, I’m a politician. I’m not supposed to thank Bill and Camille Cosby. A friend in need is a friend indeed and if you can’t stand with your friends when they need you, your not worth your soul,” she said.

Waters pointed out that some of today’s youth have been problematic as a result of being “dropped off of America’s agenda.” Encouraging her audience, she vocalized that this generation’s issues should be the community’s priority. And the solution to most of their issues involves loving, embracing and standing up for them in their time of need.

How official would an Auntie Maxine speech be if she didn’t throw shade at the president? She’s been calling for Trump’s impeachment before he was sworn in. Waters repeatedly called President Trump a “dishonorable human being.” She went further by indicating his White House cabinet was filled with KKK members and the Alt-right. She even mentioned what she thought Dick Gregory would say about Trump’s actions with Putin. “Did he collude with Russia? I bet you Dick Gregory would tell me, ‘Yeah, he did it.'” Whether impeached or not, Waters is sure she’ll leave a lasting impression on the president. “We’re gonna let someone come along, like this ‘thing’ in the White House and dishonor us all?… I don’t think so! … When I get done with Donald Trump, he’s gonna wish he had been impeached,” she said.

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  • Chuck

    I applaud Ms. Waters, and have respected for every since I learned about her. She is indeed one of my heroes, and I wish her well.

  • Janice Archer Weaver

    Maxine needs to be “Off To See The Wizard” to ask for a brain!

  • refichter

    Ha! Rep. Waters refers to Trump as that “thing”, too, just like I have for a long time! 😉

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  • Wally Damron

    CASTRATE COSBY NOW !

  • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

    *Sigh*… Ms. Waters I have a lot of respect for you, but you’re WAYYYYY off about Cosby, I don’t care how many plants he sends you…

    • Brandy Betts

      Well, you’re WAYYYYY off about a lot of things, aren’t you? I guess you have something in common with her, then.

      • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

        Anitra Burrows, do you *really* want to get in trouble again? 😉 Wasn’t your arrest in Pennsylvania enough? Being humiliated with community service? Having that on your permanent record when you try to get a job? lol. It’s annoying when the woman who reported your illegal activity and got you arrested has actually done the work and lost *her* weight, but your azz is still big as a house, isn’t it? Aw girl. You’re so transparent it’s comical. 😀 😀 😀 “Anitra has the mentality of a 13 year old girl”, said the detective who took you in. 😀 Agreed!

        • Truth Teller

          (sigh).. I would think you’d be tired of sounding like a broken record. Pick up the needle, already. A 50 year old woman posting like a 13 year old girl but wants to talk about somebody else’s mental state. Amazing comedy lol! You can’t make this up, folks!

          • Truth Teller

            A woman who makes fun of people having associate degrees (i.e. Jay) when that’s all she’s accomplished in her hypocritical life after attending at least 5 schools hahaha! Doesn’t it take around 2 years to receive one of those? What the freak did you do, go to school and quit after each semester and attend another school because you were getting beat up? Wait, because you were so OBESE (lol!) that you were just too embarrassed to continue going to school, having people see you everyday and kept changing your mind going back and forth, back and forth. Well, whatever you did, I’m glad you finally took the marsh mellows out of your mouth and decided to get liposuction so the world didn’t have to continue to see that fat of yours. Congrats!

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            Oh, big sigh. You know what was fun? Reading the articles saying how you were begging for mercy from the judge, lol. You had to have daddy go in with you, couldn’t even handle it on your own. Grown woman, huh? Right. No. 13 year old girls commit illegal acts pathetically trying to go viral online (i.e., get attention). Grown women get them arrested. Ta!

      • KillerKoala

        She doesn’t give up, doesn’t she? Like I said take her picture to the courthouse and make sure they put her on a monitor list. She needs a trip to the looney bin for a check-up.

        • Truth Teller

          Way overdue for her to be committed. No one like her should be out walking the streets so freely. She’s an endangerment to society.

        • Truth Teller

          Her and her cronies are really doing a disservice to society posting erroneous information and even on their fake rape page, they claim someone paid Temple’s Margo Jackson for coming forward with a bogus story. Do they have proof? Of course not. They WANT her story to be fake. They said no one on that page even knew what high profile case she was talking about in her statement that Wyatt read, like she made it up. Well, if those loose females were in school getting an education instead of rolling on their backs at the playboy mansion or wherever, maybe they’d have the skills to research what case she was talking about.

  • Brandy Betts

    What a friend!

  • JayRaskin

    She has been close friends with Bill Cosby for over 30 years. She knows the truth that Dr. Cosby is innocent and she understands the truth about this Ku Klux Klan inspired racist and sexist farce playing out in Montgomery county.

    • Brandy Betts

      I totally agree!! But my alter ego Brandy Betts aka Cosby4Prison thinks she’s “WAYYYYY off about Cosby”. Tells us what kind of friend Cosby4Prison is.

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      • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

        Thanks Anitra Burrows! Are you ready for your 2nd arrest next year at the Cosby trial? Gonna commit more crimes and illegally audio record more trial proceedings? If you do, we’ll be there, again, making sure the courthouse staff is aware of your presence (since you’ve been banned from the premises). See you there!

        P.S. – I love that pic of me. It’s cute! xo

        • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

          She told President Judge Thomas DelRicci, “I just figured this was my one time to have a video go viral.”

          Poor girl, so desperate for attention, to be noticed. Thanks to you, she had to go before the judge and say that!? Her parents must be so proud!/s Looks like she didn’t learn her lesson. I might need to contact that judge myself and let him know her current continuing misbehavior related to the Cosby case. Either way, she is to be pitied. A very needy person. 13 years old is about right, maybe even a little generous.

          • Oxy McCartney-Lansbury

            Ash, Jessie blocked me as I was responding to her last post. I am heartbroken. For the life of me, I don’t know why she is so po’ed. May I post my response to her here, and ask you to pass it on?
            Could you ask her to unblock me?

            Jessie,
            I miss you so much, you can’t imagine, XXX.
            Too shamed to post to you currently because I upset you, and can’t find the right words to apologize.
            If you can’t read me anymore, then don’t.
            That was a post I wrote to KDAnn Landers.
            It was not about you, although your name came up.
            She and I are of the same generation, but she is smarter than I, an ex-marine who has no opinion about Jane Fonda. She posted to me first.
            The whole Ken Burns show is really upsetting me, and I am curious for KD’s input, as I know she surely has better insights about Viet Nam than I.
            Of course, I don’t know what you have discussed with JW about Viet Nam. But in your last post to me, you wrote you would never burden JW with such a discussion. You were fine knowing he was the good, decent man you married. All I wrote to KD was that she was correct (as was Sally) to suggest you should never ask JW about his experiences there. And I wrote that knowing JW the way I do, that he would protect you from any info that would (needlessly) upset you.
            What is wrong with that?

          • Kathy Harrington

            I don’t believe Jessie blocked you–all of her comments are gone.

          • Oxy McCartney-Lansbury

            !!!!!

          • Passing Through

            KH is right. I went to respond to a post to me and noticed she dumped her account or her phone died. Her last post to me was to unblock Sally because he was doing his weird sh*t again. She quoted his dot-terd comment to you as her avatar. She was joking about his rambling at you.

          • Oxy

            I posted to KD last night around 10:15.
            A little while later, Jessie posted to me that my posts upset her too much, and referred to something in my post to KD. I typed a reply, but when I went to post it, I couldn’t, so thought I’d been blocked and asked Ash to post it for me. I guess she was deleting her account while I was writing my post. That was around midnight.
            Wish she would come back and block me, rather than leave you guys, too.
            As for Sally, his last post to me was this morning:
            “oh boo hoo, boo hoo you whieny FOS POS”
            He can have the last word.

          • Passing Through

            Sally is challenged. Who cares!! Case closed. Even posters on the other side keep him at arms length. There are reasons. Ignore and block if he gets needy, again. His parents spared the rod the little sh*t.

          • Oxy

            “Even” posters from the other side, lol?
            Seems to me they are smart enough to avoid Sally totally, except for his paramour, Burt.
            Sally is insufferable.
            Speaking of Burt, did you see his avatar? WHITE guy on a jet ski. Hmmmm….wonder who that could be, lol?

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            More interesting than that is, his frequented communities, love, joy and feminism.

          • Passing Through

            Haha!! Sally is already cautioning Burt about being an idiot. Will he tow the line.

          • Sally

            Where were you to help jessie out? oxymoron went after jessie like a foaming animal. Posters on the other side know their blocked because they lack boundaries so they learned not to waste their time. They read my posts. You POS, you want to support that sociopath then you’ll be considered one to. Jessie had the option of blocking oxymoron but she got away from you too.

          • Passing Through
          • Oxy

            Haiku to PT:

            You have made me laugh
            My fellow sociopath
            Dancing cockatiel!

            God Night Nurse, that is hilarious PT!!
            It is perfect in every way! From the song selection to the one bird who does not want to dance, lol. I love videos of talking birds.
            Can’t remember if I ever responded to the Carlos Santana link you sent….Santana is a talented guitar player, but that cover could no way compare with Prince and the boys.
            Hey, wanna meet me at the bar in an hour or two? The one with the jukebox? If there is a pinball machine, all the better. I could go for a couple of IPA’s. Maybe even some greasy onion rings, since we are all going to die soon. I like those stuffed potato skin things, too.
            The world may be coming to an end. Trump is too messed up not to provoke little Kim, putting millions in Japan, both Koreas, Seattle, San Francisco, LA in danger. Meanwhile, while we are on the brink of war, Trump is trying to cause racial divide in this country, tweeting about the NFL. Can you imagine if Kennedy during the Cuban missile crisis were tweeting about Elvis or hula hoops?
            I’m sitting on a beach, MY beach, a few feet from a beautiful lake. Seemed like summer had left, but for at least the past week it has been sunny, temp in the mid -80s. Am going to go swimming in a little while. My last swim?
            Effing orange POS is going to mess it up for all of us. Hate that bloated moron, and the idiots who cheer him on. Disgusted with every person who voted for him, no matter what their reason.
            Speaking of insufferable psychotic windbags….Did you ever see the video of Sally Sue’s former bird? After his partner passed away, the bird could not stand being alone with Sally Sue so he surrendered it for adoption.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcFEA0vSwgQ

          • Sally

            Hey biotch, you made jessie close her account because you’re a sociopath who doesn’t stop.

          • Oxy

            That’s like the pot calling the kettle black, lol.
            Why are you reading my posts to other people instead of pretending to be a lawyer on Disqus?
            Go away InSufferabe Sally Sue!
            Go bother someone else.

          • Sally

            Moron. You thought hide on another Cosby newsvine I had already commented on non-genius. I didn’t chase her away, you did. You even removed the comment that was the final straw. You’re pretending to be normal when you’re a sociopath. I have no need to pretend anything. If you want to hide from me you’re going to have to use a non cosby newsvine.

          • Oxy

            Wrong, Sally.
            The “final straw” comment is still up there.
            If you were not so dense/clueless, you would know that.
            But as you are always wrong about everything involving human relationships, it is not surprising.
            I deleted one short comment days earlier. (Check the dates.)
            But actual facts, don’t matter to you.
            Once you make up your bone head mind about something, that is it for you, fake lawyer.
            You would be torn apart in an actual court of law by the opposing side. By a new public attorney on his/her first day/case. Storm rips you apart daily here.
            Why would I try to “hide” from you, lol?
            You are the one with the private account, not I.
            Go away, you big blob of blubber. Your blubber is the reason you were not injured with your fake sidewalk fall.

          • Sally

            You can’t even understand this case, nor recognize an attorney, or anything else. Lousy job of backtracking sociopath, you wouldn’t shut up, you went on to enlist others. And you won’t leave her alone, you want her back to give her more of your Nam abuse. She’s not taking it.

            junkie is an ignoramus. All he does is copy and past the same shiot every time. You’re all garbage. Non of you are worth anything.

            Again, you want to hide do it on a non cosby site but it’s doubtful they’ll tolerate you elsewhere.

          • Oxy

            Go away, Sally.
            What a pathetic nuisance you are.
            I know you are not an attorney, unless you are a former attorney with a brain injury or mental illness.
            If that is the case, tell us, and we will be kind.
            Currently you come across as an azzhola of Trumplike proportions.
            If all of us are “garbage”, then why talk to us?
            Because you have no one else.

          • Sally

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            Oxy Passing Through 2 days ago

            I posted to KD last night around 10:15.
            A little while later, Jessie posted to me that my posts upset her too much, and referred to something in my post to KD. I typed a reply, but when I went to post it, I couldn’t, so thought I’d been blocked and asked Ash to post it for me. I guess Jessie was deleting her account while I was writing my post. That was around midnight.
            Wish she would come back and block me, rather than leave you guys, too.
            As for Sally, his last post to me was this morning:
            “oh boo hoo, boo hoo you whieny FOS POS”
            He can have the last word.
            Reply View in discussion

          • Oxy

            Yeah….and?
            Are you simply going to keep posting my own posts to me for no reason?
            Drunk again?
            Go away, Sally Sue.

          • Sally

            sOxy Passing Through 2 days ago

            I posted to KD last night around 10:15.
            A little while later, Jessie posted to me that my posts upset her too much, and referred to something in my post to KD. I typed a reply, but when I went to post it, I couldn’t, so thought I’d been blocked and asked Ash to post it for me. I guess Jessie was deleting her account while I was writing my post. That was around midnight.
            Wish she would come back and block me, rather than leave you guys, too.
            As for Sally, his last post to me was this morning:
            “oh boo hoo, boo hoo you whieny FOS POS”
            He can have the last word.
            Reply View in discussion

          • Kathy Harrington

            Why are you lying? Oxy was discussing the Ken Burns documentary with Jessie, in general, not as it related specifically to Jessie’s husband. “‘Nam abuse”? Discussing the horrors of war honestly isn’t abuse. Jessie stated that she was upset but couldn’t state exactly why, as she was unprepared for the intensity of her feelings.

          • Sally

            Oxy Passing Through 2 days ago

            I posted to KD last night around 10:15.
            A little while later, Jessie posted to me that my posts upset her too much, and referred to something in my post to KD. I typed a reply, but when I went to post it, I couldn’t, so thought I’d been blocked and asked Ash to post it for me. I guess Jessie was deleting her account while I was writing my post. That was around midnight.
            Wish she would come back and block me, rather than leave you guys, too.
            As for Sally, his last post to me was this morning:
            “oh boo hoo, boo hoo you whieny FOS POS”
            He can have the last word.
            Reply View in discussion

          • Oxy

            And?
            My 10:15 post to KD from 2 days ago is still up there for all to see.
            You have just proven my point.
            Go away, Sally. Go talk to Burt.

          • Sally

            Oxy Passing Through 2 days ago

            I posted to KD last night around 10:15.
            A little while later, Jessie posted to me that my posts upset her too much, and referred to something in my post to KD. I typed a reply, but when I went to post it, I couldn’t, so thought I’d been blocked and asked Ash to post it for me. I guess Jessie was deleting her account while I was writing my post. That was around midnight.
            Wish she would come back and block me, rather than leave you guys, too.
            As for Sally, his last post to me was this morning:
            “oh boo hoo, boo hoo you whieny FOS POS”
            He can have the last word.
            Reply View in discussion

          • Kathy Harrington

            That isn’t true.

          • Passing Through

            I was cleaning out email. We both saw it for the first time, today. Buried from four months ago from a mail friend with the caption “some women are hard to impress”.

            I hope it cheered Jessie up. I was having fun with it. Lol I thought it was appropriate.

            All we heard yesterday up here was the solidarity from the NFL, even the Patriots owner. Trump just gets stranger all the time. I don’t think the people around him will let him do anything rash. Who knows about Rocket Man sally. Loose cannon.
            Those birds sure get to become good mimickers.

          • Oxy

            Not only the Patriot’s owner.
            Even Trump “friend” Tom Brady. ( I think Brady’s wife is setting him straight, but that is fine.)
            The problem is Trump alone can start a nuclear war within minutes. That is the way our system works. Prez has the power to launch an instant attack.
            Trump, because of his insecurity and personality disorder, needs to respond to every insult that comes his way (think Sally) when he should be ignoring little Kim, letting the State Department quietly handle it.
            I have never liked birds as “pets, but understand why people like them. The worst is the songbirds in cages.
            How I would love it if Jessie could see your link, but I don’t think she is looking. If I did, I would be sending her all kinds of messages.
            What disturbs me is that she totally deleted her account, like dropping a bomb. She could have blocked me, she could have made her account “private”, she could have said good-bye to you guys. But no. Boom! Wiping out all that great history/stories, all the fun times/laughs. Boom! Gone!

          • Passing Through
          • Oxy

            LOL!
            That bird would be perfect for Seymour!
            Having the weather turn from cold to hot has brought out a slew of BIG spiders here. Mostly outside, but I woke up today with one on my arm in my bed! I flung my arm out in horror, and it went flying across the room. I knew I would have to kill it, but golly that thing was fast! It got away, under a piece of furniture. Now it is in my house somewhere.

          • Passing Through

            The bird is a perfect alternative wife. Teach him the polka, then you can go to that restaurant and relax after your meal.

            We’re having a two day heat wave also and then summer is over. I don’t relax if a spider is around after my black widow bite.

          • Oxy

            Perfect solution, PT! You could write an advice column.
            I found a bird who dances like Jessie that I want to get for her. That way, whether I am out with my husband or my girlfriend, I will never have to dance when I don’t want to.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTl1asCDOgs

          • Jessie

            I’m sorry to have disturbed you, I did it for me knowing I’d be back when I felt like it but knowing I’d come back sooner if I didn’t make it difficult for myself to read posts. I know you didn’t mean anything by any of it, I was the one having difficulty so I signed off for a few days. Unfortunately that required me to delete easy access to this board.

          • Oxy

            Welcome back!
            I can’t begin to tell you how happy/relieved I am that you have returned.
            I was more than disturbed.
            I was distressed.
            Have you ever seen how some people— for example, the North Koreans when their leader dies–flip out?
            The one they were taught was immortal. They wail and scream and throw themselves on the ground.
            OK, it was not like that, lol.
            I did not cry, but I was heavy hearted and not a day went by when I did not think about you, wonder if you would ever return.
            I just posted to Ash why I think it is best you stay away from me for awhile.
            I may follow you, but best you don’t follow me
            In the meantime, any way you could hook me up with your mom and her book club?

          • Oxy

            Welcome back!
            I can’t begin to tell you how happy/relieved I am that you have returned.
            I was more than disturbed. I was distressed.
            Have you ever seen how some people— for example, the North Koreans when their leader dies–flip out?
            The one they were taught was immortal. They wail and scream and throw themselves on the ground.
            OK, it was not like that, lol. I did not cry, but I was heavy hearted and not a day went by when I did not think about you, wonder if you would ever return.
            I just posted to Ash why I think it is best you stay away from me for awhile.
            I may follow you, but best you don’t follow me
            In the meantime, any way you could hook me up with your mom and her book club?

          • Jessie

            I get such a kick out of my mom, whenever I say something like “I’ll call you tomorrow” she checks her schedule, it’s a crowded affair. “Well, I have scrabble in the morning, then some of us girls are going to lunch after and that can easily take four hours, and then we have the boys after school and your father promised them mini put… I’m sorry Jessie but tomorrow just won’t be good, I’ll be available the day after before noon though.” “Um, okay… or I can talk to dad or leave a message?” “Well your father will be at Parliament for most of the day and then of course there’s the boys, and it’ll be Tuesday so he’ll have a sauna at the gym in the evening…” “okay okay! Can you pencil me for 10am Wednesday?” “Don’t be silly, you don’t need an appointment to call!” Lol. She’s a hoot.

            I read your note to Ash, thanks for the heads up, I appreciate it. Not sure why I’m such a basket case over the subject but no matter, I just am so that’s that, don’t need to discuss. Except I will say I would have preferred not to be so dramatic, kind of embarrassing but oh well, what’s done is done and it’s in the past. I’ll just not follow you for a while.

            Anyway I’m sorry to hear you’ve had so much going on, it’s stressful enough dealing with one or two unpleasant things but when they all happen at the same time, overwhelming!

            Sleeping on the couch with Fred is not nearly as much fun as I thought it’d be. His head weighs 500 pounds, he’s super boney, he snores, and when he isn’t trying to push me off I incorporate the really bad terrible commercials into my dreams (who melts plastic cups in their cookware? I do in my dreams apparently, when I’m not spin mopping my floors or using some find of flexseal on my imaginary boat). I need a nap.

          • Oxy

            I’m not planning to talk about Viet Nam again. I hope I won’t. It is just that I am behind 3 episodes, and when I finally watch them, I don’t know what could happen. Especially since I heard Burns had acquired never before seen footage of Kent State. I was in high school at the time, and it was something that affected me enormously.
            Now I REALLY want to “meet” your mom because she is using the same “blow off” tactics that I use to avoid talking to blabbermouths on the phone, lol.
            I am not saying that is her situation/motive, but people who won’t get off the phone drive me crazy!
            That may seem odd since I write long posts on Disqus, but when it comes to the phone: 15/20 minutes max, IF there is a serious reason to talk. Otherwise, 2-10 minutes.
            I feel the same way about people who take really long showers.
            There is a woman who was sort of my friend, who hunted me down a few years back after 30 years, phoned me and would talk my ear off. Every 2 months, she would call, and after about 3 or 4 messages, I would resign myself that I would have to call her back and
            “put in my time.” Usually I would find some tedious household chore to do–like polishing wood furniture–and put her on the speakerphone. Last fall I learned she was a Trump supporter, and told her I was sorry, I was still her friend, but I would no longer be able to talk on the phone with her as Trump upset me too much. “Pease don’t talk about politics!” she begged me. I told her that I was sorry, but I held all Trump voters responsible.
            A few days ago, I found out that yet another long time senior hotel employee has been fired on trumped up charges. She was a 40 year employee, and I know she did nothing wrong because she was always so paranoid they would get her. I need to call her soon, but she is another blabbermouth. If I call her once, she will be calling me every day wanting to talk for an hour. If I were home in the city, fine, I could deal with it. But this is my last month at camp! I retired to get away from the hellhole Hotel, and suddenly I will be expected to sit and talk about it every day?
            So I have to invent excuses in advance of why I can’t talk on the phone. She is one–like you–who will try to “schedule” calls, lol.
            As for what I am “dealing with”, it is simply everyday life, BS we all deal with. I am very fortunate when I compare myself to the friend going to the hospital for surgery that she probably won’t survive, all the people who died and families who lost loved ones during wars,
            people who—well, you know.
            I was simply explaining to Ash why I had been off Disqus for a few days.

          • Jessie

            I’m very sorry about your friend, when is her surgery? I’ll be thinking of her and you. Crazy amount of stuff piled in your lap. Be extra kind to yourself whenever you can and enjoy that camp of yours!

            I find it that you got from my mom checking her agenda for free time that I’M the blabbermouth! LOL!!! I love excuses to get of the phone, I wish people would call me when only when I have 5 minutes to spare! Didn’t you notice I said I’d leave a message if she wasn’t home? I’m super cool with that too! In fact those make for some of the best phone calls! “Hi (insert name), it’s Jessie, been thinking about you and trust you and the family are well. I’ll give you a shout later this week”. Lol. Even poor JW gets the bum’s rush on the phone.

          • Oxy

            Her surgery is tomorrow afternoon in a town 45 minutes away. Don’t like it that the surgery is in the afternoon. Always better to be the first surgery patient in the day.
            It is safe to look at my posts today. No talk of war, and I offer a couple of surefire tips for getting off the phone quickly. (Funny, PT uses one of the same ones I do.) I just need some new ones. Seymour is a prankster who delights when I get stuck on the phone with one of the windbags I complain about. We’ve had wrestling matches about answering the phone when one of the gabber’s names comes up on the phone. Sometimes their names will appear on our tv screen as the phone starts ringing, and Seymour will jump up. One time I tried to tackle him, “Seymour don’t you DARE” , and he dragged me across the room by his one leg. “Hi Joyce! Yes, Oxy is here!” Yup, Seymour can be a real azzhole sometimes. I’ve resigned myself to the bi-monthy (as in 1X every 2 months) calls, but unless they have a crisis, I can’t let the calls increase. I don’t have it so bad. I have one friend who has to talk on the phone two hours every Sunday with her cousin.

          • Jessie

            !!!! First thing I cant stop wondering about is who still has a land line?!?…. I just had to erase four sentences extolling the virtue of cells because JD has one unfortunate biotch of a ‘Cuz that calls his cell to ask where I am if I don’t immediately answer her calls, which happened not 20 minutes ago… “please don’t answer JW! Don’t answer!” I cry as I grab at the phone, “hey ‘Cuz! Oh, well she’s here, maybe her phone is in her purse and she didn’t hear it, here, I’ll pass you to her”. I had to pull out the big guns, and I’m going to share them with you so you can add to your arsenal – be careful though, Operation Whisper can only succeed if you’re skilled and in a private area… I don’t know if I should share this… it might be too high risk but it’s so high reward… you might not be ready…

          • Oxy

            Who still has a landline, you ask?
            Educated people from Kennedyesque families who can afford $17/month. Responsible people who don’t spend their last dime on heroin. People who don’t want to be a slave to their cell phones. Important people who understand that cell phone batteries go dead. People who want 911 to be able to locate them in case of an emergency.
            Once again you have shown yourself to be extremely ignorant.
            Does your mom no longer have a landline?
            That being said, if you have a secret to share about getting windbags off the phone, I am willing to overlook all of the above.
            I AM READY!!
            We could even open one of those secret private Disqus accounts that Ash told me about, if you don’t want to share this incredable secret with the whole world.
            It seems that JW acted out of innocence/ignorance.
            Rest assured, Seymour (in case you are still harboring fantasies about living with him) acts out of sheer malice.
            We had an agreement that when I would make a pre-arranged gesture (the universal throat cutting/finger slicing the throat) he was supposed to come over and save me. “Sorry, Joyce, but Seymour is insisting I go to the Home Depot with him immediately. He has been very patient, but—” And then he will step up and loudly proclaim so that she can hear, “No, Oxy! We don’t have to go today! It’s fine. Keep on talking to Joyce!”

          • Kathy Harrington

            Many elderly persons had to give up their landlines for their emergency call systems to work properly.

          • Jessie

            How is your friend Oxy? I thought about her today, and you.

          • Oxy

            Thank you.
            I don’t actually know. I am assuming the worst. She told me she has COPD, and was not expected to survive. As I am not a family member–and she only has 2–a sister and a bro-in-law–the hospital would never give me any info.
            She herself told me to call her retirement home tomorrow for info.
            She was more like an acquaintance/friend. Someone we met in my mom’s cardiac rehab gym. We discovered a mutual interest in books/literature, and that is what we would discuss. I never went to her home before last week when I learned of her health issue. I went a second time, and brought my mom a few days later. I got some women in the town, who knew and liked her to visit her. (They had not been aware of her situation.)
            I really hope she makes it, and if she does I will do everything I can for her in my last month here.
            But if she does not, I will remember her as someone I will treasure and was glad to have met.
            This will sound weird, but I would be more affected/broken up by your death–what did you call me? an imaginary person?, lol–than hers.

          • Jessie

            It’s a tough day Oxy, you sound down and I don’t blame you. I feel numb too but not in the way I’d expect or have before, it’s different, like it’s the absence of something, desensitized like. This happens too much, too frequently. I could be way off, but I think today has made you blue – I’m giving you a super big hug!

          • Oxy

            Thank you. Found out my friend survived the surgery! She called a friend last night and said, “I made it, and I’m high as a kite.” (drugs, I imagine.) Now she should be ok, unless she gets an infection. She will be in the hospital one week. Because of her lung problems they were worried it would be the actual surgery that would kill her.

          • Jessie

            Happy to hear about your friend and I hope she gets through the iffy phase of infection okay.

            Sally tells me I have flabby brain cells. That sounds worse than his condition of no brain cells. Is this a diagnosable problem? Should I be concerned?

          • Sally

            I know what liability insurance is and you don’t. You can use a phone but then so can children.

          • Oxy

            I don’t know, but Ash wrote me an insightful post about Sally, and I can no longer justify responding to him.
            I am not going to block him, as I enjoy the “Sallyisms”, but I will no longer feed him, respond, no matter what he writes to me.
            Unless my response is a simple, “LOL” (Lots of laughter.)
            You missed a few good Sallyisms while you were gone.
            Here is one about his house:
            “And there’s no end to people from everywhere to want to stay in my house whose guest rooms include private bathroom facilities and is at a popular location.”

          • Jessie

            LOTS OF LAUGHTER!!!

            A guest bath for guests! Such unheard of decadence! If they get their own towels my mind will officially be blown!

          • Sally

            You’re laughing because you don’t have it. Everyone around me is in the same position. Location, location, location.

          • Oxy

            Guests have used words like “lavish”, “palatial”, “majestic” , and “opulent” to describe Sally Lago, which is also at a popular location.
            I’m thinking maybe…..Orlando?

          • Passing Through

            ” I have posters follow me, that you don’t know about, because you’re obtuse. They congratulate me for what I do here. I am like God to them.” Lots of Laughter, Rocky rolling over

          • Oxy

            Dreadful, wretched, horrid little man!
            If only he weren’t so entertaining….
            Like “God” to his countless “followers”, lol.
            The Church of Sally.
            Why are you “private”?

          • Sally

            You love however the pendejo without cojones falisifyinq quotes.

            I have evidence of that fact. You won’t believe who the most recent one is either. She’s avoiding all of you.

          • Oxy

            “I have evidence of that fact. You won’t believe who the most recent one is either. She’s avoiding all of you.”

            I know I vowed to not respond to you anymore, but this is too much!
            Oh, my golly, you are right, Sally Sue. I probably won’t believe it. Let me try to guess….
            Could your most recent convert be….oh, no! Say it ain’t so!….Not……Keke?!?!

          • Passing Through

            Lurkers and closet wankers are enamored enough with us to follow us and they have endorsed Sally as their spokesperson? OMG! That must be why Sally retired from being an attorney. A higher calling.

          • Sally

            Narcissist. No one’s enamored with you. You incapable of understand how Newsvine work.

          • Sally

            Here’s the thin skinned pendejo without cojones. Posting a lie.

          • Sally

            You think you’re mocking but what you’re actually revealing is that you don’t live in the lifestyle. Everyone that lives in community has the same thing if not the same house. Hall bathrooms are designed to convert into private bathrooms for guess. Who does anyone own a home not have a set aside of amenties such a guest towels, toothpast and toothbrushes, shampoo, and number of things that people travel may have forgotten . Its one of the facts that make for a good host. then there’s the amenities within the room itself. Some residents are snowbirds.

            Your post doesn’t have the effective you intended. All it does is expose you own lifestyle

            No, its not Orlando and that statement shows you have very little knowledge of places and lifestyles.

          • Oxy

            What my latest statement shows is that you don’t understand the meaning of “facetious”.
            Again, you don’t need to read my posts to Jessie.

          • Sally

            You’re projecting. Facetious – inappropriate humor. Your problem you wouldn’t be doing that if you yourself lived the lifestyle because if you did live the lifestyle it would be normal for you. So your attempts at humor actually results revelations about yourselves.

            Your post are public information. If you want private conversations you need to find another medium suited to your garbage. Public newsvinces are not the proper venues for you’re shiet. You all don’t understand how public newsvines work.

            The proper venue for your shiet are emails.

            Here’s something you need to learn; turnabout is fair play and I’m amusing none of you can handle it..

            And if you small minded people are going to talk about other posters then posters have a right to respond

          • Oxy

            “the lifestyle”
            LOL!

          • Sally

            Everyone has a lifestyle moron.

            Lifestyle – the way in which a person or group lives.

            You’re making yourself more of a fool.

          • Jessie

            As horrible as he is, that Sally sure can give me lots of laughs! It’s like he announced that he changes his underwear every day and then went on to conclude we don’t because of our “oh mys, surely not EVERY day!” Hahahaha!

          • Oxy

            Exactly.
            Plus how does he know we don’t have a better system, like reversing our underwear the next day, so we only have to change it every other day?
            I’m sure he has nice sheets, but when I have houseguests who arrive by car, I have them bring their own sheets and towels. It’s enough to have freeloaders in the house without being being left with a bunch of laundry to do.
            And Sally thinks he is so smart, lol.

          • Jessie

            Hahaha! Stop!! You think you’re so smart? I require my driving freeloaders to bring a tent! Don’t have one? No worries, we have spares and lots of lush grass over the septic.

          • Oxy

            Interesting….
            With all of JW’s siblings, I can’t blame you. If you didn’t have such a policy, you would have someone showing up at your doorstep every week.
            But what about when they need to go to the bathroom?
            Do you leave your house unlocked? ( Is that safe in your neighborhood?)
            Rent a permanent porta potty?
            I know you urinate in your backyard, but what if the guests need to do numero dos? You don’t want Fred eating it! You don’t want their soiled toilet paper blowing around your yard!
            My home/lifestyle is a little more upscale than yours. No judgment, just stating a fact. If my guests are flying in, or they are driving, but forgot their linens, we have about 4/5 sleeping bags that are washed annually. Every guest is allowed to choose their sleeping bag, as well as their spot on the floor. I try to always have clean pillow cases for them.
            They don’t get their own bathroom like at Sally Lago, but we have a timer for the bathroom lights, as well as for the shower, and we are VERY generous with the free time: 20 minutes, which is more than enough time to finish any bathroom business.
            IF they need/want more time, there is a machine where they can buy more time. It takes quarters. $3.50 for every 10 minutes, and we always have rolls of quarters that they can buy, at no profit for us. If we buy a roll of quarters for $10 from the bank, they pay $10. Before we installed this sophisticated system, Seymour would have to turn off the water manually, while I went to the fusebox and cut off the lights.
            What do you do about food for your guests?
            I provide them with an expansive list of nearby local restaurants. Everything from Starbucks to McDonalds to Panda Express. The list includes upscale places like Applebee’s, Olive Garden, and Red Lobster. My guests leave very satisfied, plus we live in a popular location.

          • Jessie

            Ha! I wasn’t expecting that last part!! Lots of laughs!!!!

            Sounds like you have quite the swanky set up Oxy! You let the freeloaders shower inside?! My generosity involves loaning (at no cost), an outdoor shelter that serves as a shower, toilet, and change room. The water is free and solar heated (they can help themselves to our rain barrels to fill the bags). http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=1968929&type=product&MDK=dynbanP_POb&MDC=cat549496080

            We provide the tek towels. They’re super absorbent and they dry quickly even when slung over a lawn chair…. er, reading chair, and because they’re anti-microbial they only need to be washed once a year.

            Of course, some of our guests don’t like having to move the toilet in and out of the shower, so for their convenience we also provide them with a bumper dumper
            http://bumperdumper.com/

            As far as food I don’t mind providing that. Deer sausage and moose meatloaf. Depending on the bounty in our freezer (and JW’s success) they may even get partridge.

            Obviously this arrangement doesn’t apply to my family, I iron their sheets and they get fresh flowers in their ensuite. Lol. I’m serious, I won’t iron my own clothes but when it comes to “special guests” I iron the sheets. I used to do this for my favourite sister in law, but for obvious reasons she’s getting the bumper dumper and tent from now on.

          • Oxy

            Wow! You have it figured out! Way to manage the mobs! Impressive!
            I think I might try to emulate your example here at camp.
            The only thing I am confused about is who empties the bumper dumper, and where does it get emptied? As unsightly as it is, I think I’ll just rent a porta potty and let the company come clean it weekly.

          • Passing Through

            Who wears underwear?

          • Oxy

            Women wear underwear.
            Probably more so than men.
            Women, in general, are more modest, plus we like having that extra barrier of protection.
            We are also expected to wear “s e xy” lingerie for our husbands, in the event our husbands demand s e x.
            If we are wearing high waisted cotton briefs, our husbands might go out and seek a hussy in a thong.
            My husband wears underwear, but as you pointed out, he is likely gay.
            I am aware that real men don’t wear underwear.
            In any event, we have a much more serious issue than underwear on our hands.
            According to Sally, a high level individual from the Hate Group has defected and is now worshipping at the Church of Sally. I can not, for the life of me, imagine who that might be. In my heart of hearts, I know it is not you, Storm, or Ash. Sally has hinted that it is Brandy. I believe he said he got 12 upvotes from Brandy. Knowing Sally’s beliefs about AC, I find that hard to believe. But if he has converted someone of Brandy’s stature, it would be a Kim Philby like level of betrayal/deception.. I suspect Glo will assign you and Storm to the case. All I ask is that you make sure you have the right person, and that you go easy on them. At least in the beginning.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Oxy, You may be projecting and assuming that because when you say something, it’s true. That kind of thinking cannot be used when dealing with a liar. Sally is lying, nothing he says cannot be considered true. He has no one.

          • Jessie

            I dunno. I find it believable that Brandy upvoted Sally. I’ve done it several times myself. I’m probably going to h e double hockey sticks for laughing at someone with an obvious brain injury but you gotta admit, sometimes it’s so funny you gotta laugh and give props to the sallysmackdown even though it’s due to illness.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Oh. Maybe I spoke about something I’m I’ll informed on. I thought y’all were saying a supporter turned duhfender not, that sally got a supporter upvote. I can believe that sally got an upvote or upvotes from a supporter but know Brandy is NOT a duhfender.

          • Oxy

            Sometimes you can accidentally upvote someone, too. When you go to look at who upvoted their idiotic comment. I find it hard to believe that Brandy would upvote anything Sally said. Might have been one of the “fake” Brandys. If it happened at all…

          • Jessie

            But we do know Sally is king at misinterpreting just about everything!

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Your majesty, I think instead of dubbing him king, maybe just tap him as sir misinterpreter, alongside the other black knight.

          • Jessie

            Are you getting this post? Dude’s been trying his best to silence me because I talk about Cosby too much/ don’t talk about Cosby enough etc., he was successful for a day, is he still? Let me know if you get this!

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Hi Jessie! Who is doing what? If it’s Adumb, he might wish he had minded his own business very soon.

          • Jessie

            Adumb effectively silenced me for hours yesterday. He flagged me so much that anything I posted was pending review. I only noticed it after wondering why no one was responding to me but him, when I checked out my history I saw that every comment I made was “pending”, and that it was because he flagged me as spam. Over a hundred times. But who’s counting his obsession, I certainly don’t want to!

          • Oxy

            Go for it, Ash!

          • Oxy

            Yes, Adumb is flagging all her posts and getting them removed.

          • Passing Through

            Time to bring in Inspector Gadget and tinker with Adumb.
            He’s a boner killer.

          • Oxy

            He is flagging Jessie’s posts as SPAM, and they are not. SPAM is “I made $15 dollars and hour working from home…” I suspect no one actually reads Jessie’s “spam” posts. The comment becomes “pending”, then it gets removed.
            This is bad because it is censorship. As offensive as people like Craig and Sally can be, I have never flagged their comments or tried to censor them. Freedom of speech.
            ADumb is setting a bad precedent. Stupid people are the worst.

          • Oxy

            It’s YOU! You’re the mole, lol!
            I’m not convinced there is a brain injury. I think he could simply be a major azzhole, like Trump.

          • Sally

            I never said who it was. You biotches and b&stards lie and make up stories and that’s what makes you so foul. Just continue to take oxy’s abuse; you came back to get more of it.

          • Oxy

            I know Ash.
            I was kidding. I should have sprinkled a few “Lol”s in there. I often forget.
            Speaking of azzholes of Sallyesque proportion….Did you see Trump in Puerto Rico? Telling them the Puerto Ricans they are “lucky”? Tossing rolls of paper towels at them?

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Laughs on laughs! Like Hall & Oates, I’m Out of touch, (gullible)
            I have seen Trump, being Trump. tossing paper towels, telling people who lost everything to, “have a good time”
            Carry on! lol

          • Sally

            You descend further into the pit of stupidity. No one has “defected” drama queen. You’re really a very sick woman; sick people. People can disagree and respect each other at the same time. People can disagree and find common ground to. Your post says something about you not anyone else.

          • Oxy

            Nobody respects you, Sally, because you are an azzhole. Nobody likes you for the same reason. You are the stupid one for not realizing I was not serious. It’s called joking, Sally. And it was not posted to you. Mind your own business, busybody nosy parker.

          • Sally

            Back in the schoolyard again? What don’t you understand about “I don’t care” and that you’re not everyone. You care is anyone likes you. That’s confining.

            Yours is a bully’s defense and you can’t bully me. You have a jessie for that. You don’t have privacy on the newsvine twit. It’s a public board. The topic is Bill Cosby. If you’re incapable of staying on point with the subject go elsewhere where its more suitable for your garbage and people will come to talk about the Bill Cosby case together.

            Turnabout is fair play; deal with it. You get what you dish out.

          • Oxy

            Is someone talking about Bill Cosby here?
            What more is there to say?
            There will be another trial, there will be at least one idiotic dinosaur on the jury, it will be another hung jury, Cosby will die a pariah. The End.
            That is all I have to say about Cosby, no reason to talk to me.
            If there is anyone talking about Bill Cosby, who is willing to talk to you, then go talk to them. Why seek out people who don’t like you?
            If you ” don’t care”, then get AWAY from me, Sally!
            What the EF is your problem?

          • Sally

            You’re an idiot on the newsvine. You have not respect for truth. Nearly have, either 5 or 7. There wasn’t a lone wolf on the jury. Give them respect lowlife because it was their job and not yours. You know nothing. You’re just a nasty false accusers with a bottomless pit of disdain for the lives of others.

            Get off the newsvines about Cosby and people will return and post about instead of going no further than lurking.

            There’s plenty to discuss that you’re incapable of understanding. You’re all like the needle stuck on a album scratch.

            You don’t don’t speak for anyone else biotch. I happen to know that you people are wanted off the board. Find another newsvine where you fit in.

            Who’s seeking you out moron? No one is seeking you out. You’re getting back what you dish out. Turnabout is fair play. Behave yourselves you thin skin small brained nincompoop and study a dictionary.

          • Oxy

            You are seeking me out, azzhole. Who made it your job to police the board and look for posts not about Cosby? You yourself post very little about Cosby, you are so busy being a busybody. Now EF off.

          • Passing Through

            KillerKoala • 6 days ago

            “Do
            you notice that nobody cares about the Cosby fiasco anymore but Storm
            Junkie and Jessie? They are still commenting on every article about
            Cosby to make them all believers. Is there anyone new here? No? Didn’t
            think so.”

            What’s Killer arguing. First it’s Jessie and Storm are the only ones that care about Cosby, Then it’s Jessie talks about stuff unrelated. If Killer doesn’t care then why is he here? Who even knows what that psycho Sally is going on about. He’s only here when it’s in trial phase. He’s here every day lurking for a fight. Wonder where his followers are?

          • Oxy

            From now on, unless Sally writes me a post that contains an original good Sallyism, I am not going to respond to him. He wrote me a long winded, gassy one yesterday that I ignored. Likes Fids and Trump, very important for Sally to get the last word in.
            Was not aware of “House of Cosbys” until you posted about it. Now, I am pleased to see I can watch the episodes on youtube. Looks like just my cup of tea. Seymour will enjoy them also.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWUBnrIaphQ
            Maybe I will discuss each episode after I watch it. Hopefully that will satisfy those Duhfenders who have a bee in their bonnet about not enough Cosby talk. Gotta stay on subject!
            How is your cabin? Safe from the fires yet?

          • Sally

            Who needs to get the last word in coward. You turn to invoking my name to someone else rather than face me. You’re a small minded coward. You can only handle a minute level of reading while I can scroll down an entire newsvine in minutes. People can read your posts in china if they wanted to.

          • Oxy

            It’s not that I can’t face you. It’s that I don’t want to face you.
            I’ll “face” you here, but this going to be one of the last times:
            You are a pathetic azzhole. Your personality is absolutely grotesque.
            I don’t why they would want to, but I don’t care if people in China read my posts. You don’t need to constantly point out the obvious: that this is a public forum, lol.
            What is creepy is your following me around, you wheezing bag of blubber.
            How did you get your brain injury?
            Doing one of your planned pratfalls in front of someone’s house?
            Ok, go ahead. Get your last “hysterical” word in now, Sally……

          • Sally

            Who’s following you around non genius. What don’t you understand about your public posts? All it takes is something called “scrolling”. There have been new comments that have nothing to do with your lowlife group. You scroll you see posts. There’s nothing you can do because people have a right to respond to poster who discuss other posters you small minded low life. What part is turnabout is fair play is incomprehensible to you.

            You’re the obtuse one for failing to have in your procession a contract, not reading it and possibly incurring thousands of dollars in debt.

            The universe has a way of ensuring what goes around comes around. You’ve been heaped with a host of incoming problems. The universe is trying to tell you something. Your descendants, if you have any, will pay for your actions.

          • Oxy

            More BS from you, Sally.
            No, I do not carry a 15 year old contract around with me when I travel from home to home. Even if I did, I’d want them to send me a copy of what they are claiming the contract is. Genworth has now sent me a copy of the contract, and the Illinois Insurance Commissioner will go to bat for me. Nothing in the contract supports what they are claiming, but that does not mean they won’t get away with it.
            If I indeed owe them $3933.06, I will write them a check. There will be no debt, or consequences for my descendants.
            The Universe does not “tell” people things.
            “It ain’t why, why, why….It just is.” Van Morrison
            Are we done now, Sally?
            Can that be your last word?
            Please?
            We don’t like each other. Let’s just go our own ways.

          • Sally

            You only need to have a copy of a contract in one home, doesn’t take up space. LOL quoting a singer and music producer; you have no depth or credibility. You have no idea how the universe works, no depth of understanding of how the world works. I don’t care. I’m just pointing out how stupid you are. You unduly placed yourself and your mother in a financial position to lose money. Not an intelligently smart move. You don’t have that contract already? All they need to do is email or fax you one. No one said the universe speaks to anyone. dumfuk.

          • Oxy

            “The universe is trying to tell you something. ” Sally Sue DaCitti

            “No one said the universe speaks to anyone. dumfuk.” Sally Sue DaCitti, 30 minutes later.

            Sally, I told you I now have the contact. I told you that I don’t carry a copy of the contract with me to my summer home. I told you even if I had one here, I would have had Genworth send me one anyway. I told you the contract says nothing about taking someone out of the assisted living facility on a vacation. If taking my mother to be with her sister who was turning 100 was “stupid”, then so be it. I’d do it again in a heartbeat. If I have to pay back the money the insurer paid out during that time, I will do it. It’s only money, Sally, and not that much. As for Van Morrison, he is a singer/songwriter, and singer/songwriters know far more about the world than a fake lawyer who rants on Disqus all day.

          • Sally

            I told you that your actions regarding what to do with a contract is financially irresponsible. I don’t care what you do with your mother. A contract does not have to specifically state you can’t take someone out of a living facility on vacation. There are other ways of stating that the contract will not pay if the person is not residing for a month. It won’t hurt but help you to know how to read a contract.

          • Oxy

            It is not listed in the “exclusions and limitations”.
            The only mention of “bed reservation” concerns hospital stays.
            It is not fiscally irresponsible because she can afford it. It is just a drag if it turns out to be true. In any case, quality of life and family time together is more important than money.

          • Sally

            It could be contained within the verbiage of the contract and/or small printed.

            It is always irresponsible to suffer financial loss due to actions. That money could be used for better things. The insurance policy is there to save your mother money. You should be more careful with someone else’s money and not spend it because it’s there. You don’t want to learn anything.

            The insurance commission should resolve it and you’ll learn nothing from it.

          • Oxy

            My mom wanted to go see her sister in Southern, California.
            It was cold and snowy in Chicago. My mom was recovering from severe anemia.
            We were there for her sister’s 100th birthday, my mom’s 97th birthday, Easter.
            My mom loves Southern, Ca. The sunshine, mountains, ocean, birds, dry heat.
            I’d do it again. She is 97, and has more than enough money.
            There is no better way to have “lost” the money, if that turns out to be the case. It is money we won’t inherit. Does not affect her.
            There is nothing I need to “learn”.

          • Passing Through

            Wasn’t your mistake. You would have done it regardless. Next time sublet the room as a bed and breakfast at $200/night. Lol

          • Oxy

            My “mistake” was being honest, and telling Genworth the truth, instead of lying when I could have, lol.
            But that’s ok.
            Honesty brings it’s own rewards, I’ve heard,
            The least of my problems.
            Trump/North Korea, crazy people with guns, Trump, healthcare (not for me personally, I’m ok), terrorism, Trump, pesticides, etc.
            Crazy times.
            We need to have our Believer party soon.
            I think the best would be if Ash moved to Maine, and had it at her new place, a housewarming kind of thing.
            Who wants to go to North Carolina with the hurricanes + snakes+ spiders+ rednecks?
            Hey! Don’t forget to leave me a (well) hidden message in San Francisco! (Haiku?) Isn’t your trip soon? I will find it, and post your message on here.
            How cool would that be?

          • Jessie

            Um. Hang on. You want to wait until Ash moves to Maine!! I’m already here mo fo!! I was only kidding about tents and bumper dumpers, we have four guest bedrooms! Okay yes you’d all have to share the guest bath or use the main floor communal one, JW and I keep ours on the down low and to ourselves, but still, we’re pretty freak’n guest friendly, got it?!?! This house is literally like a Vincent Price movie. My bro: “so we go down this hallway and turn left and then a quick right and open the door?” “Yeah, that’s right, if you wanna find your kid, whatever your scenario, we’re not putting the kids outside, they’re just covuluted to get to”, and then my bro looks at me and we both start laughing and laughing, we’re twins so we had experiences together…. his wife and my husband are never impressed but my bro eventually totally gets what I’m trying to say… anyway, lol, don’t need Ash to give you the Maine experience! I got this one!

          • Passing Through

            When you take her away do they remove the food part of the bill? Sounds like you don’t do it often except for camp. I’m amazed your mom still travels at that age. Enjoy while you can.
            Are you missing the pugs, yet?

            Four Canadians died in Las Vegas. Their constitutional rights to a long life were cut short. They’ve been interviewing wounded survivors from BC on our Global news. One guy had a bullet through the back of the skull, one through the abdomen, one clean through the lower leg.
            Most of these people were young, having a good time, spending hard earned dollars at a high exchange rate in order to get shot in a country where lawlessness has no other face than the Commander in Chief.
            At that age these 5 day or 3 day vacationers didn’t buy medical. Some don’t have work protection for long absence from employment.

            Get Ash to move before end of year and have a house warming.
            Leaving tomorrow and I don’t take devices but I will work on haiku while away.

          • Oxy

            Yes, the meals are re-imbursed, but that is only around $400. The big expense is the apartment and her “life care” fee. Traveling is not so bad. I get a wheelchair at both airports. They wheel her from the taxi to the door of the plane, and there is another wheelchair waiting at arrival. On the flight she watches a movie. Many movies to choose from. She is easy to travel with in a car also.
            Not missing the pugs yet. Maybe because there are a few real dogs here who can fill the void. One at the golf course, one at my mom’s beauty salon, etc. I keep dog treats in the car, so the doggies are always happy to see me.
            You don’t want to get me on the subject of young people who think they don’t need medical. Those idiots are one car wreck ahead of costing the taxpayers a fortune.
            I believe if you’ve worked 1250 hours–something like that–you can apply for FMLA for up to 3 months. You won’t get paid, but they can’t fire you for not coming to work. And if you have health insurance through work, they have to keep paying.
            It doesn’t have to be a haiku. If I were getting to San Francisco first, I might have left you a hidden Fibbles type rant, lol.

          • Jessie

            Oxy is the prettiest most awesome smiling face I’ve ever seen. Totally random comment on a totally random post lol, I just had to say “hey!” look at that face to someone.

          • Passing Through

            Five foot two, eyes of blue
            But oh, what those five foot could do
            Has anybody seen my girl?
            Turned up nose, turned down hose
            Never had no other beaus
            Has anybody seen my girl?

          • Jessie

            HA!!!! Good one!

            And I digress.

            Land of the silver birch,
            Home of the beaver,
            Where still the mighty moose wanders at will! Boom diddy bang mo fos!

          • Jessie

            Too soon? It was totally too soon! I’m sorry! Let’s begin again:

            Land of the silver birch,
            Home of the beaver,
            Where still the mighty moose wanders at will,
            Blue lakes and rocky shores I will return once more
            Boom diddy boom and all that stuff but can Adumb actually affect this? Not for now! Boom diddy boom diddy boom diddy boom diddy boom boom.

          • Passing Through

            Off to check my trap line. Need some fur pelts to keep me warm in the igloo this winter.

          • Jessie

            Lol!!!!! You have no idea how funny that is!

          • Jessie

            Let’s just all admit she has a super pretty face an then be done with it. After Adumb approval obviously.

          • Sally

            It doesn’t matter the decision should have been made prior. You said “we”. You never truly know how people are going to react to a will. If you’re unlucky you could could be accused of mismanagement.

            You’re cognitive dissonance, your false pride prevents you from learning anything. If you’re her agent or guardian you’re going to have to be fiscally responsible with her money. If you pursuant to the contract you have to pay then take it out of your own account, not hers. You can’t treat her money as if it was yours.

          • Oxy

            I’m her power of attorney, both fiscally and medically. The money won’t come out of her savings or investments. It is money the Insurance company paid out that it wants back. Her bank account is a trust with my name on it also. I’m not worried about being accused of mismanagement. The Insurance company will either get away with it, or they won’t. I am prepared for a long drawn out battle with them. Nobody’s “lifestyle” will suffer, no matter what happens.

          • Sally

            You of course don’t listen; you know everything without learning anything. You can’t treat your mother as your mother. You must be as fiscally responsible as if someone else were in charge. Wealthy people don’t make those kinds of mistakes. Your only battle with them is with the insurance commission otherwise you’ll need to hire an attorney and it’s not worth it in this case. If the insurance commission goes your way fine. If it doesn’t than pay. The point is this is a fiscal lesson that’s not going to hurt you to learn. You can learn how to read a contract; they’re complicated. You can learn to ask the insurance company questions before you make a move; something you failed to do first. You can learn how to keep copies of all contracts and if you travel and are responsible for her then you can learn to easily travel with all documents on hand via even a smartphone.

          • Oxy

            Ok, Sally, but, again, I would have done the trip regardless.
            It is a quality of life vs money issue.
            As for hiring an attorney….It is not simply the $4000 that I “owe” them, it is also the money they have not paid us since I have had my mother here at camp. So that is another $16,000 +.
            So we are talking $20,000+. It might be worth my consulting an attorney, and paying his/her $300/hr fee, or whatever, if it could potentially get me the money.

          • Sally

            Learn something or not. Multimillionaires go bankrupt. The only way to win with an attorney is to win a civil suit that includes attorney fees, a settlement that includes attorney fees. You have to pay the attorney. It’s a whole lot of trouble for being obstinate enough not to learn something to begin with. It’s just not fiscally sound.

            That’s your choice to make and I know that you don’t know how to handle money. You want to argue with people who know better because you think you know everything without having learned anything, fine, it’s not my money.

            It might go your way. That’s no reason to refuse to learn not to incur the same headache again in the future.

            I don’t care about whether or not you may have risked your mother’s health or the reasons why you chose to incur financial headaches.

            Learn something or don’t. If it comes down to it you may choose an attorney who doesn’t care about your chances of winning and losing.

          • Oxy

            Sally, I absolutely know how to handle money.
            My mom has a financial advisor–(he is mine now, too, but I only give him part of my money)–who told her I was amazing. His speciality is mutual funds, bonds, etc. Mine is the stock market. I pick better stocks than he does. The last stock I bought, not that long ago, was Facebook (which I hate) at $150/sh. It is now $172. I should probably sell…
            I doubt you are better at stock picking than I.
            If I have any financial fault, it is that I don’t spend enough money. I invest.
            I would pay an attorney to consult about the LTC contract, perhaps write a letter. That is it.

          • Jessie

            You have a really pretty smile.

          • Sally

            You would argue with the Lord God Almighty. Take or leave the advice. it’s not my headache, it’s yours.

          • Oxy

            Okay, Sally.

          • Oxy

            I would absolutely argue with the old testament Lord God Almighty.

          • Sally

            I have no doubt you make up you’re own. You can’t believe the New without believing the Old.

          • Oxy

            I believe Jesus was a prophet. I don’t believe he was the son of God. So I guess I don’t “believe” the New, except that it has come good messages.

          • Sally

            So you believe he spoke the will of God. Can a prophet be a liar and a spokesman for divinity at the same time? Can you believe a liar can be a spokesman for divinity?

          • Oxy

            I guess I should not have used the word “prophet”. He was a very wise man. He understood things that most people don’t.

          • Sally

            Are wise people liars?

          • Oxy

            I guess they can be, but I wasn’t calling Jesus a liar.

          • Sally

            Why would you listen to a liar? You didn’t get my point and moved into what you do or do not believe.

            So the questions must be was Jesus 1. a liar, 2. mentally ill, 3. the Son of God

          • Oxy

            He was a zealot, a fanatic. He was not the son of God. I don’t know if he was mentally ill or a liar. Very little is known about him.

          • Sally

            He wasn’t a zealot nor a fanatic. There’s a great deal known about the last 3 years of his life.

            So, if you say he wasn’t the Son of God then he has to be either a liar or mentally ill. There are no other options.

          • Oxy

            Other people reported/believed he was the Son of God.
            No way to know what he actually said.
            In any case, he is a major historic figure–perhaps the biggest–but he was absolutely a fantatic/zealot. He was a Jewish rabbi(?) who lived in a turbulent time, under Roman rule. That is why they killed him. He was an agitator.

          • Sally

            He said he was the Son of God. That’s the crime for which he was charged, arrested, tried, tortured, convicted and executed for. It was a Roman crime to claim another deity other than the emperor. Judas was the zealot. Jesus cared nothing about politics. That was the rift between Judas and Jesus.

            Pilot and Herod did not want to execute him. Their job was to keep the Jews in line and Jesus was helpful to that end because he preached that everyone should obey the government. Jews had no authority to charge, try and convict anyone. He broke Roman law.

            There are only 3 options, he was 1. a liar, 2. mentally ill or 3. the Son of God.

            He admitted to the crime. He could have gotten himself out of it.

            Yes he was a Jew and a Jewish rabbi after he lest his profession (middle class) of carpentry/masonry. As the oldest son he likely supported his mother, left his job and preached for 3 years with 12 guys and mostly supported by women.

          • Jessie

            But here’s what I DO know! You have a really pretty face. I’m trying to follow this thing with Sally but I keep getting distracted on account of your mug. It’s not my fault. That’s a really awesome face. I hope this isn’t counted against me. I want a jury!!!! Seriously, who wouldn’t be distracted by that smile? Into evidence! I say!!

          • Oxy

            Thank you, sweetie, but I am no Helen of Troy.
            I am the age of your sisters in law, and my face only looks “pretty” when I can force out a huge grin.
            I am grateful to have inherited my father’s dimples, my mom’s smile, but when my face is “in repose” some people will occasionally ask me, “What’s wrong?”
            “Nothing”.
            Not my friends, as much as azzholes at work. Then they will inform me that I need to smile. (Like they go around smiling 24/7?)
            In any case, I am glad my smile can keep your spirits up.
            If your problem is not resolved in a month or so, I will visit the Disqus corporate office in San Francisco on your behalf.
            Even KD told Adumb he was harassing you, and (politely) asked him to stop.
            Were you able to ask JW about the “Survivor” “self love” issue?

          • Jessie

            Self love! Lol!! No there’s certain things I’m okay with just leaving private, I don’t need or want to know about any master batting (hahahaha, still makes me laugh!) if it’s all private. I’m sure the impact to the environment is minimal. Haha, lol, what a topic! Now I’m kind of wishing I’d asked about it just to see Probst’s face. I was very interested in poo. That was it for bodily functions.

            I’m glad KD noticed the guy being all harassing, I don’t throw that term around lightly, he absolutely crossed a line. I don’t want him silenced, only stopped. I’ve never been to San Fran. San Diego a couple years ago. Loved it. The cactuses were blooming and I had to use a brand new book to identify birds “those are Orioles Jessie (duh) “yes they’re obviously orioles JW (duh) but what kind?!? I’m gonna find out in my this here brand new book!!”

          • Oxy

            Probst might have had some great stories on the subject.
            Some guy sneaks off in the night, thinks he’s alone….A SPOTLIGHT BLAZES ON…the camera crew is there!…..Lots of laughter!
            I asked Seymour about it and he thinks that hunger and fatigue and fear of being caught would be boner killers.
            Would they be “Western” orioles, lol? They have different blue jays there too, that are very pretty. The Western bluejay. And they have some kind of sparrow like bird with red color that are everywhere.

          • Jessie

            Yeah I asked JW about that and he thinks I’m a freak now, thanks! “What did you just call it?! A one eyed dragon?!” “Yeah, if you were on Survivor and needed to slap the salami, where’d you go?” “Oh my god, and you were shushing ME at the picnic?!!”

            Yes, western orioles, steller’s jays, all different depending on which side of the Rockies you’re on. I found it fascinating because of the cactuses, it was behaviour I’d never seen. I could have stayed in that spot all day. I never noticed the sparrows. Totally kicking myself right now. I need to go back. Perfect excuse.

          • Oxy

            Good Night Nurse!
            He thinks you’re a freak because you are one!
            First of all, you never as ask, “where would YOU go?”
            You have to ask, “where do you think THEY go?’
            The poor man is probably terrified of where this could lead.
            (Can this marriage be saved?) You clearly need to take Oxy’s Correspondence course on “How to please your Man”, but there is no time for that. It is a seven week course. So I am just going to give you some tips from Chapter Six.
            There is a time and a place for “dirty talk”, but there is a big difference between dirty talk and crude talk.
            “slap the salami”? OMG. That is worse than calling smooth hydrated skin fat and puffy! You have to use discreat delicate language. I’m trying to remember how I phrased it with Seymour….”audition the hand puppet”?….”adjust the antenna”?…”make some instant pudding”?….I’m pretty sure I said, “charm the snake.”
            “Slap the salami” is just crude, gross. Men don’t like that. In the locker room, fine. But not coming out of their ladies’ mouths. Try to avoid phrases like “Pound the Flounder” , and “Beat the banana.” A more refined playful food reference might be “put some relish on your frankfurter”
            And if you are talking to a man who you suspect might be “small” (fat guys, men from the Pacific Islands, wrestlers, for example) don’t use phrases like “shaking hands with the midget” or “making the munchkin cry” , or “jerkin’ the gerkin”.
            I don’t know about you sometimes, Jessie. Are you sure JW wasn’t off with his paramour?

          • Jessie

            I’m freak’n peeing my pants right now this is so funny!! (Is that crude? Perhaps I should say I’m urinating in my undergarments?). LOL!!! I’m gonna totally say all those things to JW!! I don’t want to, but who can resist?? Pound the Flounder?!? Oh my god that’s too funny!!! I can’t deprive him of that!!! Relish on the frankfurter?!? Oh my god, dying over here!!! JW totally needs a paramour because I’m so horribly awful and not s3xy at all!! Jerkin the gerkin. Hahahaha! I can’t dirty talk to save my life, we just end up laughing and laughing and I fall asleep and he goes charm the snake in the bathroom lol, I dunno, I just figured a night that ended with laughing was a happy ending! Hahaha! I’m so not a good wife! I need all the chapters!!

          • Oxy

            OMG! That is from Chapter 9 in my book!
            Rest assured, if your husband stays home and chokes the chicken in the bathroom while you sleep that is ideal!
            One frisky tip I recommend in my book that drives the guys mad: if it is a special occasion (birthday, Valentine’s Day, anniversary), let your man frost his maple bar in the bed with you. I know! We don’t want crumbs and syrup in the sheets since we rarely wash them. However, so long as your man is helping to put Mr Kleenix’s kids through college, you should have no problem with your husband going on a date with Fisty Palmer. Especially if the tv is on.
            Another tip: if it goes on too long or the panting bothers you, don’t yell, ” Stop arguing with Henry Longfellow! Some of us are trying to sleep!” or “When is the bald man going to puke, already!” Very rude and crude! Yuk!
            Best to quietly whisper, “Are you almost done basting the ham?” or “Will you be finished buttering the corn soon?”

          • Jessie

            I’m dying over here!!! Doubled over!!! Frost his maple bar!! You bee! I’m totally gonna be saying all this and he’s going to be really unnatracted to me and it’ll all be your fault!! Choking the Henry Longfellow!!!!

          • Oxy

            Choking the CHICKEN!
            ARGUING with Henry Longfellow!
            Please learn the correct lingo! I spent a lot of time on my book.
            Best you don’t share with JW.

          • Jessie

            Too late! I just had to share! And now he’s doubled over wondering at how many ways I can butcher a master batting phrase! Who knows!! Stay tuned!!!! Stoke the chicken, punch Longfellow in the face, I dunno, that’s some pretty freak’n hilarious dialogue you got going on! Wait, hang on, that’s the FBI at MY front door?!? Shut the…., well you know the deal. Shut it sista. Choking the chicken. I’m just about dying over here.

          • Oxy

            Well, dang!
            If this has become an open subject in your house, make JW tell you what he thinks the young men on “Survivor” do when they want to go on a date with Handra or Palmela.
            Is this not how the whole discussion started?
            I told you how Seamy avoided my question.
            He has lots of experience avoiding my questions.
            No reason to let JW off the hook.
            The FBI is at your door? Good Night Nurse!
            Will you be going to a Federal prison?
            I don’t know that I can visit you, but I absolutely will write you hand-written letters. For most of my life my friends and I wrote hand written letters, and I have saved most of them. Will never forget the hope and excitement and joy of opening the mailbox and finding a letter. My friends and I used to make extremely original and funny envelopes. Now it is all email.
            As far as JW, laughing is great, compatibility can’t be overrated, sense of family is major. But you have to maintain the mystery. That is chapter 12 of my book, and I can’t give all my secrets away for free.
            Did you get my post about why I want to stay at the Marriott Residence Inn, if there is one in your town?
            Maintaining mystery is very important, not only in marriage, but in life.

          • Oxy

            Upon reflection, I think I will change it to “arm wrestling with Henry Longfellow” or “getting in a tug of war with Henry Longfellow”. Or maybe “exchanging poetry with Henry Longfellow”. Or perhaps simply “shaking hands with Henry Longfellow”. That one is crying out for improvement. Actually, I like your “choking Henry Longfellow.” I think Henry Longfellow was from Maine, so you can rename it however you like. In other news, I deleted one of my posts. It was in very poor taste, even for me, lol.

          • Passing Through

            Life has lessons. Usually after the fact. What is your interest in an Insurance policy. It wouldn’t have mattered either way!! It’s a nuisance, later, but one can become more aware of fine print and move forward.
            Amount of time one spends obsessing on a loss is detrimental to well being.
            At this point in her life Oxy, Seymour, the pugs, kitties have whatever they want.
            What do you suggest? Don’t take her mother anywhere? Money isn’t the problem!!

          • Sally

            The reason that public education was mandated is so the average person could read a contract and not get ripped off. The time to learn is before you sign a contract. The time to read it is before you sign it.

            The above has nothing to do with insurance company’s habit of denying coverage you’re entitled to of course. They pull that all the time.

            I’m not suggesting she obsess over it. She’s the one who says she’ll fight it all the way and it may not be worth it.

            As for taking her mother somewhere sounds beautiful on the surface but we don’t know the details of her mother’s medical needs and required assistance do we. For all we know she might have risked her mothers health We all can’t always have what we want. I’m pointing out the purpose of buying insurance is in fact to protect assess; not lose money. With her attitude there are more possible financial loses for her in the future which include but are limited to medical insurance. This is essential in the US. Sufficient medical insurance is necessary to avoid financial ruin and the older you get the more you’re going to need it.

            She’s free to continue to make mistakes. All I’m doing is advising her to avoid it in the future.

            And no one is going to have everything they want if they’re in the habit of wasting and throwing away their money. What’s the point of paying insurance premiums than paying out of pocket? Nonsensical. Oxy is the combination of her parent’s genetics which means she may have a tougher old age than they. Both her parents have suffered from dementia which means she’s inherited from both that can be worse for her.

            I’m in a business that gets what people need done which requires knowing what that is; you are not.

          • Passing Through

            I don’t disagree to some parts of your discussion. Be aware of what your recourse! is.
            You and I know that the ordinary person does not have the time nor the expertise to fully understand contracts. IMO some contracts are intentionally made to distract.
            Most people don’t have time to read 15 pages of minutia let alone the capability to dissect all of the circumstances pertaining to coverage.

            Are you suggesting that Oxy is in the beginning of early onset dementia? because of family history?
            That alone displays an objective that goes beyond making contractual arguments into destroying any logical point you had to begin with.
            What it does suggest is Oxy could live mentally cognizant as does her mother.
            Give us your background.

          • Sally

            You are incorrect. People have time to do what they want to do. They can take a course or they can watch tv. One is profitable while the other is not. It’s about acquiring knowledge an learning how to read many things. It doesn’t require degrees in financial management. It requires a willingness to improve reading comprehension. There are dictionaries for different professions even for but not limited to insurance. She has time to watch tv she has time to read. We all get the same amount of time; some people use their time more profitably than others.

            I’m saying she doesn’t know what her path will be and it won’t be her parent’s if that’s what she’s expecting. No reason not to prepare because you don’t know. There too it doesn’t help to learn about biology, dna and genetics. Learning can be just as much fun. She has a huge chance of suffering from dementia. That’s why it’s important to know family medical history. Some things can even skip a generation.

            If your parent gets glaucoma then you should have your eyes checked every year. Why wait until you’re going blind?

            You can watch survivor or enjoy reading a book about genetics. Which is more profitable?

            You want to start a business learn first how to do it. Learning as you go can fiscally ruin you.

            Before you sign a contract learn how to read one or hire the appropriate lawyer to read and explain it to you.

            You should have gleaned long ago what I do but you refuse to accept it.

            The issue here is learning from one’s mistakes so that you don’t repeat them. Pride really does go before the fall.

            Here are the two choices she had. Before removing her mother she could have consulted both the owner(s) of the assisted living and the insurance company first. If she found then that the insurance company didn’t pay then she could make a choice she could live with.

            The second is what she actually did. She’s got a headache she could have avoided. There’s more but I won’t go on because no one is listening due to false pride.

            If her mother has a health care directive, oxy has moved her out of state with no directive in hand; how much would her mother unduly suffer and for how long?

          • Passing Through

            The issue is about learning from a mistake. I’m not sure why we had to go through such a maze of lead up. We are adults and we do know that unexpected pitfalls happen. How one deals with a bad hand is a better indicator than lamenting about a mistake.
            I won’t comment on her family medical history short of what I already briefly said. Not my business and it would be inappropriate to make some derogatory offensive conjecture in order to establish nothing!!

          • Sally

            There was nothing derogatory about it. It’s medical science. Improve your reading comprehension. She doesn’t want to learn from her mistakes nor does she want to learn anything knew. She made it the public’s business because she posted it publicly. There’s no privacy here.

            You know nothing about medical science, specifically about genetics and heredity medical problems don’t cast dispersion’s on someone who does.

            You’re just argumentative for the sake of it.

          • Passing Through

            My reading comprehension is fine, thank you. Who are we to conjecture as to what Oxy has learned? And why should we?
            The point of reading or watching survivor is a pointed comment.
            It’s laying tracks as telling someone how to better use their time.
            If not argumentative it;s snotty to say the least…Trumpish behaviour!!
            I don’t think you even realize how you come across.

          • Sally

            Dream on. There’s always ways to learn how to use time better. Use your time better or don’t. It’s called the boob tube for good reason. You, You are argumentative. You project.

            One of the many ways I come across is as a teacher because it’s in my skill set. Learn or don’t.

            You project. Amongst trumps list of distasteful behaviors is having your thin skin. A sign of old age is refusal to learn anything new.

            You contribute nothing useful.

          • Passing Through

            I guess your skill set as a teacher has been lost on all of us. Time to reinvent yourself.
            Your repetition of thin skinned, projecting is just becoming stale.
            People hear what you have to say but the problem is with your delivery and insistence that you have the chosen path. it’s obnoxious, questionable, self serving and abhorrent behaviour. People at that point turn you off. As Jessie says paying attention to you is conditional with suffering through your narcissistic manners.
            Sorry,,,I won’t go there with you.

          • Sally

            You speak for yourselves; you speak for no one else. You ignore the message to attack the messenger; not impressive. Only fools shoot messengers and ignore the message. There’s absolutely nothing self serving about my posts here.

            It’s repetitious because it’s what you are and you never change.

            Often other sets of eyes are helpful. You can take it or leave it instead of your self-serving worthless extremist attitude of what you hysterically call abominable behavior. Abdominal behavior is accusing anyone of a crime without evidence. Your rage is out of perspective.

            Your’re never ending projecting onto others has no limits. You’ve exhibited lack of concern for anyone anywhere. Jessie isn’t very bright; anything not puerile hurts her brain.

            Get a grip on your emotions and then ask the wizard for a brain.

            People don’t consist solely of yourselves narcissist. You don’t speak for billions of people.

            You’re the one looking for pseudo friendship on newsvines. That indicates you have no live person around you who wants to listen to your shiot.

          • Passing Through

            “One of the many ways I come across is as a teacher because it’s in my skill set. Learn or don’t.” Sally to PT LOL
            See what I get for telling Salty that you did nothing wrong.

          • KillerKoala

            Or you can just stop spamming the boards. Somehow this is a simple concept you can’t grasp…

          • Oxy

            Oh, well!

          • KillerKoala

            Well I shouldn’t be surprised with a name like “OfcourseCosbyIsGuilty”. I mean the obsession never ends with you.

          • Oxy

            Not an obsession. Just stating the obvious.
            Obsession is insisting that others can only talk about Cosby.

          • KillerKoala

            Obsession is posting on a Cosby article just because it’s a Cosby article even if you aren’t talking about Cosby. I say you have a pretty big obsession there.

          • Passing Through

            Sally is just a classic demented little clown who is a retired/let go legal clerk. He talks critically about others and then whines when people are fed up with his BS and ignore him.
            The cabin survived and is safe from fire season. Displaced wildlife everywhere that were driven from their habitats.

            Cougars and bears on the loose. Rocky chases them off the property.
            Does Jessie post to you or does she need approval from Killer and Sally?

          • Oxy

            She just posted to me. She’s put her profile on “private”. What’s up with you “private” people? Come on! Stand up like a man and take your medicine, lol!

          • Passing Through

            She’s been on private for a few days. She was developing a rash.
            There’s no medicine to take with Sally. Yelling at an insane person is pointless.
            Sometimes when walking Rocky I see some sort of ruckus up the street. Rocky wants to get involved. Usually it’s some person like Sally talking/ranting and waving and pointing at imaginary things. Mental health issues…It’s sad. Sally is high functioning , maybe on day passes? Lol
            I just cross the street much to Rocky’s dismay.

          • Oxy

            Hold on….
            Are you comparing me to Rocky, lol?
            Well, I never!

          • Passing Through

            Does the glove fit?
            I only suggested Rocky is inquisitive not smart. Lol!
            What was Trump’s wink along with his “calm before the storm” comment?

          • Oxy

            Hopefully only some of his attention craving BS. Just hope Kim Jung Un or Iran don’t flip out about it. The azzhole in chief. What an embarrassment.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            kind of snort laughing.

          • Sally

            Why is this ball less spineless wonder concerned about such petty things such as who follows who?

          • KillerKoala

            If you need an explanation, you, Storm, Oxy, Jessie, Cosby4Prison, Wally Damron, and Katy Harrington love to spam Cosby boards because they need to spread their hate and harassment. Even if it’s talk about random things, they must do it on a Cosby board. Everything they do is about Bill Cosby. Bill Cosby is their life. It’s their whole life. It’s everything they do and think about it. Obsessed is an understatement.

            But to sound like they are not complete and utter psychos, they must:
            – Purge their account on a regular basis
            – Make their profile private
            – Get really ticked off when someone marks them as “Followed”
            – Pretend stuff they did in the past didn’t actually happen and we’re just the crazy ones

          • Passing Through

            All these people you list are on the boards less than you, fool. They’re not running around the posts telling posters what is acceptable and everything, like you. You’ve really gone off the deep end. Tell Burt to quit spamming the boards about Blac, Lisa etc. Oh wait, I forgot you’re a hypocrite.
            Katy Harrington is seldom on the board a-hola. She has never supported the accusers…shows what you know, dimwit.
            Shouldn’t you be working instead of posting, thief!

          • KillerKoala

            “All these people you list are on the boards less than you, fool.”
            Based on what? Because they recreated their account and now have a low post count? I’m sure they fooled you, the dimwit. They go wherever Cosby is mentioned. They get REALLY upset when good stuff is said about Cosby. It pisses them off, that’s why they are on this board.

          • Passing Through

            That’s funny!! I haven’t seen any good stuff posted about Cosby? Someone stayed silent for 3 years and then made a nebulous comment that they stood by him. What did that mean? Good or bad they still like him. Didn’t mean they thought he was innocent. You go ballistic that most realize it’s too little too late.
            Take a look at the number of posts you’ve made in just say three weeks compared to them.
            It’s in court which I suspect is where the majority wanted it and they’ve moved on. Why don’t you, Adam. Or are you waiting for the comeback tour. It will never happen.
            More civil cases to come after criminal trial.

          • KillerKoala

            I’d love to compare posts but 2 of your buddies just did a massive purge of their account. It’s also ironic about you telling me to move on but you’re still posting here. Must be afraid of Cosby making a comeback or being found innocent. Are you coming to the trial with your friends?

          • Passing Through

            You are the one who seems to be disturbed with us and have your balls twisted. Not our problem. You should deal with your anger issues. No one is bothering you?

          • KillerKoala

            Your group’s hate and harassment are bothering me. You’re never ending posting about Cosby is bothering me. Find a new hobby and leave.

          • Passing Through

            There haven’t been hate comments from us. There have been more hateful comments towards the accusers from Cosby supporters, if anything. You happen to be the one seeking out our comments and harassing us. I’ll leave when I want and return when I want. If it bothers you too effing bad.

          • KillerKoala

            Don’t like the comments? Too bad. They put themselves in the public spotlight with their harassment and hate. What goes around, comes around. It’s called Karma. You get treated the way you treat others. You don’t like it…like you said, too effing bad. Deal with it or don’t post. Your choice.

          • Storm Junkie

            Hate to break it to you Adumb but Cosby isn’t coming back. No ones going to laugh at his jokes and no ones going to take the advice of a hypocrite. The only friends Cosby has are paid attorneys and they don’t last long.

          • KillerKoala

            Don’t worry Storm, Cosby is going on a comeback tour. I’ll buy ya a front row ticket so you can enjoy it! 🙂

          • Storm Junkie

            It’s time to wake up Killer.

          • Jessie

            Lol! How is it that he can’t delete you when he can the rest of us?!

          • Storm Junkie

            He can’t get us all. Sooner or later his employer will figure out what he’s doing on company time.

          • Jessie

            I don’t trust his employer. They don’t seem to have a handle on this dude. I’d like disqus to reign him in though. What a freak show.

          • Storm Junkie

            A little obsessed right now I’ll agree.
            I don’t get the blame the victims so I can continue loving Cosby line of thinking.

          • KillerKoala

            You’ve never understand anything Storm. You can’t see past your nose.

          • Storm Junkie

            And you’re a Cosby licker. Why do you insist on following me?

          • KillerKoala

            Because you insist on being a Cosby hater wherever you go. Do you have a problem with people disagreeing with you?

          • Storm Junkie

            Do you think its morally wrong for a married father of five to give incapacitating drugs to women in or just barely out of high school because he wanted to have sex with them?
            Cosby admitted doing this.
            The real problem is they say they weren’t aware they were being drugged and he didn’t have consent when he had sex with them while unconscious or unable to move.
            Why do you have a problem with people being friendly on a public forum that no one visits anymore? Is it your job to stalk and harass them when they aren’t saying anything negative about Cosby. Why do you ignore Burt?

          • Jessie

            I know, right!!! You still talk about Cosby, and I’m really glad you do, talking about rape and rapists is important, but I see you’ve got that subject covered so I move on to the way too soon passing of Petty and woa!! Dude loses his mind and gets all trigger finger. If I was like Burt trashing blac chyna (lol, is that really her name?!) I could be endlessly on here, but mention Tom Petty and how sad it is that he left us too soon, oh no, thems fighting words! Report report report!!!

          • Storm Junkie

            For some reason Adam wants to stalk and quiet you Jessie for being the “Queen of Shill Mountain”. You should feel honored. He’s going into death throes over Cosby and wants to take someone with him. The Cosby lickers abandoned him and left him with Burt rambling on about Lisa Bloom.

          • Jessie

            Lol, well I can’t wait for him to be given a clue. It’s so embarrassing to have to reach out to some poor kid to say “yeah, hi there, how’s it going? Hate to bother you with this but I’m a grown adult who happens to be posting on an eight month old article about Cosby and there’s this guy…” It sounds funny now but I was pretty upset by it, there was like 12 hours where I couldn’t post anything to anyone anywhere. JW thinks I’m a tad crazy “well, take a break then”, “no, I’ll take break when I’m wanting to take a break, not when the dude who’s madly trying to follow me says I should!!” “Jessie he’s a Cosby follower, the dude excuses rapists” “that dude just silenced me!!! What if Oxy thinks I left her again?!” “What do you mean ‘again’?” “Never mind, I’m writing an email”.

            Phew. Got that off my chest! I’m like 40 and dealing with a bully. Unbelievable.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            LSHIC! (laughing so hard I’m Crying)

          • Jessie

            Ha!!

            I have to tell my mom that one! My pa told me she keeps post-it notes on her computer for stuff like that!! LSHIC indeed!! Hahahaha!

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Gloria Allred’s condemnation of her daughter Lisa Bloom’s representation of Harvery Weinstein. I have more respect for Gloria and somewhat less for Lisa. I realize that even guilty people deserve a defense, however, this mother/daughter duo has made sexual assault victims their “business” This might not work well for Bloom.

            “Had I been asked by Mr. Weinstein to represent him, I would have declined, because I do not represent individuals accused of sex harassment,” Allred’s statement read. “I only represent those who allege that they are victims of sexual harassment. While I would not represent Mr. Weinstein, I would consider representing anyone who accused Mr. Weinstein of sexual harassment, even if it meant that my daughter was the opposing counsel.”

          • Jessie

            I’ve been thinking about this one. I do feel that some kind of victim’s advocate needs to work with offenders, but to make public statements that try to or appear to legitimize his behaviour, I dunno, horrible lapse in judgement to say the least.

          • Storm Junkie

            I’ll entertain him for awhile. I usually ignore him and won’t let him follow me but I didn’t hit the red x this morning. His reporting everyone is just a cry for attention and I wouldn’t want him to start cutting himself. Cosby being a rapist has been hard on him.

          • Jessie

            It’s too bad he’s so affected by Cosby’s rapist ways, I guess some people have real trouble with that. Thank goodness we can’t all hit the red x every five minutes, what would the poor guy be left to do?!

          • KillerKoala

            Cosby didn’t admit to giving incapacitating drugs nor did he admit that he didn’t have consent. These are things you are suggesting. If they were incapacitated and drugged without their knowledge, don’t you think the police would have been involved? No, you believe the grand conspiracy of Cosby buying his way out of trouble for decades and it taking 60 women to make 1 story believable.

            I have a problem with people hijacking forums about Cosby to spread their story and narrative. That’s why you are here on this article. This is a recent one. And you don’t think telling people about a serial rapist conspiracy theory isn’t negative? And what’s Burt saying? I hear he’s talking about women that Lisa Bloom is representing.

          • Oxy

            “I have a problem with people hijacking forums about Cosby to spread their story and narrative”
            Cosby is to blame for this “narrative”. It is HIS story.
            If you are too dense to see this, fine. You are an aspiring pro wrester whose brain has been slammed and scrambled.
            But please stop attempting to censor other posters.

          • KillerKoala

            It’s not HIS story as he’s not telling it. It defers from his own timeline of events. You and your friends hijack every Cosby forum so you can change the narrative. You and I both know this but you can’t admit to it.

          • Oxy

            Why do you think there are Cosby forums? Why do you imagine he is a topic on conversation?
            I could say that you and your friends hijack every Cosby forum to slander and shame his victims, but I don’t try to silence or censor you.

          • Jessie

            Oh I’m smooching your impossibly pretty face!! Mwa mwa mwa all over that mug!!!

          • Oxy

            Right back atcha! If this thing with Adumb has not been resolved in a month, I’m going to post a picture of myself in Disqus Corporate Headquarters. We’ll take it to the top!

          • Jessie

            I literally can’t see a post from you without thinking “pulling the pud”. I’m freak’n laughing my butt off. Oxy. Hahahahaha!

          • Storm Junkie

            Rapists don’t admit being rapists Adam and Quaaludes are incapacitating drugs.
            4 dozen women claiming they were drugged without their knowledge and raped or sexually assaulted by a man that lies to everyone isn’t suggesting.
            Times are changing Adam and people like Cosby are having trouble hiding.
            Most people believed when there were 13 women but Cosby paid to stop and cover it up.
            No ones hijacking anything. This is a public discussion forum. don’t like what’s being talked about. Leave.
            What does Lisa Bloom have to do with Cosby?

          • KillerKoala

            It’s your opinion that Quaaludes are incapacitating drugs. You’ve been told otherwise a few thousand times otherwise but you refuse to listen. Almost 5 dozen women and their supporters who have been trying to sabotage Cosby’s career is very telling indeed that there’s far more involved than a simple rape scandal.

            And yes, you were the first hijacker of this forum. You want to continue posting, expect people to correct you. Don’t like it then leave.

            And Lisa Bloom is Gloria Allred’s daughter. She represents at least one of Cosby’s accusers. You should know this by now.

          • Storm Junkie

            It’s from first hand experience that I know how incapacitating Quaaludes are. Not my belief. Being told by people that don’t know what they are talking about to minimize what Cosby was doing isn’t going to fly. In reality he was giving them a dose meant for heavy sedation which meant he wanted these women to be zombies when he had sex with them. It doesn’t follow that he was looking for consent after giving them a dose of Quaaludes meant for heavy sedation.
            Lisa Bloom representing Blac Chyna is not a Cosby related topic knucklehead.
            I hope you aren’t at work getting paid. Get back to work.

          • KillerKoala

            Tell us your Quaaludes story, love to hear this first hand experience. Also you tell me what the correct dosage of a Quaalude is and what you took it for.

          • Storm Junkie

            I took Quaaludes out of curiosity when I was young Adam. They were called 714’s. I didn’t like them but I have a pretty good idea what Cosby was using them for if he was passing out two pills and serving alcohol and it wasn’t consensual sex.

          • KillerKoala

            What were you looking to get out of the Quaaludes? What sparked the curiosity?

          • Storm Junkie

            It was all part of drug experimentation in the late sixties and seventies when I was growing up. Some were fun, some not so much. When we were kids we thought we had to do drugs to have fun.
            Giving drugs to someone without their knowledge for any reason is about as low as it gets unless of course it’s with the intention of sexually assaulting them when they are too stoned to resist. Even convicted criminals look down on men that take advantage of women and children.

          • KillerKoala

            So under no circumstances these women were doing any part of drug experimentation like you did? Even though it’s the same time period? You don’t find anything about the time gap of reporting doesn’t look at all…weird to you? Maybe you were looking for women to rape too since you used the drug. How am I supposed to know you didn’t?

          • Storm Junkie

            Do you remember any of these women saying they asked Bill if they could try one of his pills?
            Do you think Andrea was experimenting with drugs when Bill talked her into taking pills she didn’t want or need?
            What’s wrong with you Adam that you want so badly for this to all be a conspiracy that you have to ignore everything you know to be true and throw common sense and logic out the window to defend Cosby.
            I think these women were young and confused and didn’t fully realize how wrong what Bill did to them was until they found out it wasn’t a one time mistake and he was purposely drugging women to have sex with them. They were alone and afraid of Bill and what he might do if they reported him.
            They came out in support of Andrea who was brave enough to report Bill and expose what he was doing.

          • KillerKoala

            Because I have to throw out a lot of common sense and logic to believe this narrative.
            Here’s just some of the illogical problems:
            – Assaulted with drugs only distributed up until 1984 but there are claims of assault dating up until 2008
            – Almost 60 women were afraid of what Cosby might do to them even though he didn’t live with them, was away most of the time, and had an entire different line of work then them
            – They were young and confused….for about 40 years….till they found other women who pieced their own story together
            – This is about rape….not the total destruction of Bill Cosby even though all evidence points to them making sure Cosby doesn’t get any work

            “Do you think Andrea was experimenting with drugs when Bill talked her into taking pills she didn’t want or need?”
            Read the story again. She came over complaining about sleep issues. He gave her pills to relax and she willing took them. They weren’t slipped in a drink.

            “Do you remember any of these women saying they asked Bill if they could try one of his pills?”
            Yeah, Theresa – here’s a quote from when she came out:
            The pills, she says, were Quaaludes. “He identified what they were; that’s how I knew,” she says. “At that point I didn’t know what to do, so I just obeyed. I just did it.”
            — She willing took the pills knowing exactly what it was

          • Storm Junkie

            Harvey Weinstein is under attack and has lost his job and reputation. He needs you Adam. Go save him.

          • KillerKoala

            Under attack by Lisa Bloom. The reason why you know about Harvey Weinstein is because he’s connected to Cosby. Showed up during your daily Google search for Cosby, didn’t it?

          • Storm Junkie

            Harvey’s name is front page everywhere. You don’t have to look up one serial sex offender to find another.
            Harvey asked women to do sexual favors that were inappropriate. Cosby didn’t ask. He stole them.

          • KillerKoala

            But we all know you got it from googling Cosby. You can admit it.

          • Storm Junkie

            There hasn’t been any Cosby news for weeks. When I turn on my computer my homepage has news headlines. This is what I have at this moment as one of the top news stories. It appears Harvey had a little Cosby in him after all.
            http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/3-women-accuse-harvey-weinstein-of-rape-in-bombshell-new-yorker-story/ar-AAtghH4?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me
          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            That article I just sent has even included Adam in it: “Cosby and his apologists — before, during and after his sexual assault trial in Pennsylvania last June — used this ploy to trash his female accusers. This is a straw man argument if ever there was one. There is an obvious answer why, aside from fear, uncertainty and trauma, that many abuse victims say nothing.”

          • Storm Junkie

            There’s nothing that will help Adam. I think it’s time for everyone to start ignoring him like we do Burt.

          • Oxy

            First, he needs to stop harassing Jessie.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            I agree, He is so needy for attention that he acts out by harassing Jessie and others to get it. He actually thought the FBI might notice him with that silly petition. I vote ignore.

          • KillerKoala

            13 accusers, 1 spoke out from 2004 – sounds a bit too familiar. Seems like a common method for the Allred family on how to attack men. You have MSN as your homepage?

          • keke

            And as Cosby told the guy from MSNBC that it wasn’t enough women last time so this time around they upped the anty and put out a lot more. They’re trying again with many many more piled on.
            Lol.
            Yea Cos.

          • Oxy

            You are an absolute idiot.

          • Storm Junkie

            Yes I have MSN for my homepage. Allred wasn’t around for the first round of accusers. What’s your problem with Jessie having a friendly conversation on a disqus site that no one goes to anymore?

          • KillerKoala

            There’s no room for friendly conversation when it’s hijacked by haters or haven’t you noticed this yet on all the other forums you go to.

          • Storm Junkie

            Sorry, I can’t help you if you insist on visiting forums that make you unhappy.
            Go read one of your Cosby books or visit his face book page where people like yourself gather for friendly censored conversation.

          • KillerKoala

            If you want friendly conversation, add Jessie and Oxy to Skype and go wild.

          • Storm Junkie

            If Jessie and Oxy want to talk no one’s forcing you to eavesdrop on their conversation. Get a life Adam.

          • KillerKoala

            Irony: Telling one to get a life when they have no life of their own. Get a grip Storm Junkie, there’s more to life than Cosby.

          • Oxy

            This guy is really messed up. I’m going to ignore him.

          • Storm Junkie

            Bill needs some help in this discussion forum. Go start some friendly conversation Adam and leave people alone that want to talk on old sites no one visits anymore.
            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4955818/Bill-Cosby-not-handing-documents-accusers.html#comments

          • KillerKoala

            No one visits here anymore after you joined in. Look at the history.

          • Storm Junkie

            The Harvey Weinstein scandal is shining a new light on Cosby and how people looked the other way and he was able to get away with drugging and raping women. Harvey says he didn’t have to drug women the way Cosby did. Look at what is happening to Harvey. Is this racism? is this a lynch mob violating Harvey’s rights until found guilty in a court of law. No, these are people that know Harvey and the women making the accusations and they believe the women.
            Bill Cosby and men like him have inspired women that have been sexually harassed, assaulted or raped to come out to say enough is enough.

          • KillerKoala

            Yeah, all the old grandmothers have come out to talk about their decades old assault. Must make you proud.

          • Storm Junkie

            Yes it does. One of the most important rules in a civilized society is you don’t hurt other people or take their stuff. People like Cosby, Harvey and pedophile priests have opened our eyes to a layer of inappropriate behavior that has been covered up and gone on way too long. It needs to stop.
            You need to get back to work.

          • KillerKoala

            It has stopped, most of these are complaints from the 60s and 70s for both Cosby and Weinstein.

          • Storm Junkie

            You’re a delusional fool if you think it has stopped.
            How do you want the women in your life treated when they’re at work or looking for employment?

          • KillerKoala

            I live in Canada. I don’t live in a place where guns are required to protect myself from my neighbours. Do you even work now or you too old for that?

          • keke

            Lol!!

          • Storm Junkie

            What does anything you just said have to do with how you want the women in your life treated?
            I don’t have any guns and I saved my money and retired early.

          • KillerKoala

            We don’t have the same problems as the US. That’s because everybody is nice (even in the workplace). We don’t follow around 80 year old men across the country and harass them. We have better things to do.

          • Storm Junkie

            The 80 year old man is a rapist trying to avoid accountability. Maybe you should mind your own business. We don’t need you telling us how to mind ours.

          • Oxy

            Like posting on Disqus all day to people you don’t like when you are supposed to be working? Dead weight.

          • KillerKoala

            I thought you weren’t talking to me?

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Canada, just like every country on earth has it’s share of dangerous offenders. Delusional Adam. https://listverse.com/2015/10/15/10-of-canadas-most-violent-dangerous-offenders/

          • keke

            What you also don’t do is agree to the nasty propositioning; say and do nothing and let it go for years WHILE KNOWING about that person harming others along the way; carry on with your career because that was more important than your own health and dignity and anyone else; keep associating with the perp and THEN because ‘something’ pops off about the person being really bad(which you always knew) you want to join the crowd and claim victim status in the end.

            No.

          • Jessie

            I can’t believe the Weinstein case hasn’t opened your eyes, not even a little. You sound like a true dinosaur. https://www.newyorker.com/culture/jia-tolentino/how-men-like-harvey-weinstein-implicate-their-victims-in-their-acts

            You’re a blind and clueless fool keke. And yes, sometimes, (often) it takes someone else, braver than another to call it out in order for the other to come forward. Don’t like it? Me neither, which is why I’d rather be part of the change instead of the status quo.

          • keke

            Oh please you Mess. This doesn’t help women or people. Helps no one.
            You go and compromise your morals and conscious for something that is highly unnecessary in life such as fame then that is on you. You go and let it alone for DECADES as you “progress” then obviously it was a bullet worth biting, chewing and swallowing for you so keep on eating it then.

            You KNEW what that man did to you and for YEARS you have heard and KNEW of others who were terrorised the same way or worse after you yet you SAT there and tried NOTHING. Why? Cause…cause.. “My career.”

            Now “something” pops off and now you want to come out playing victim.
            Im so glad folks are calling ALL of these folks out.

            I only respect those that really did try to stop him or warn others away from him.

          • Oxy

            “a common method on how to attack men.”
            You can NOT be THIS stupid.
            You are hopeless and need to be ignored.

          • KillerKoala

            This is not the first time Gloria or her daughter Lisa used 13 women to attack a celebrity.

          • Oxy

            SO……EFFING……JAW DROPPINGLY……STUPID.

          • KillerKoala

            Why? Why always 13 women? Why not 1?

          • Oxy

            You can NOT be serious. Between you and Keke, it is hard to pick the bigger idiot, but I think it may be you.

          • KillerKoala

            You’ve still yet to explain this phenomenon. Don’t have an answer I assume?

          • Oxy

            It’s not a phenomenon. It does not exist, dummy.
            Lord Jeezus, help me!

          • KillerKoala

            Just answer the friggin question and quit stalling.

          • Oxy

            Then will you go away?
            Ok, this is the LAST idiotic question I will answer.
            First off, I already answered it.
            There is no “number 13” phenomenon.
            And there are plenty ones, twos, threes. How many does Trump have? 4? 5?
            You ask the stupidest questions. Worse than a 5 year old.
            “13”–Jeezus! What do YOU think it means?
            Some secret number the cult likes, lol?

          • KillerKoala

            So you don’t know. That’s what I thought.

          • Oxy

            What about my answer did you not understand?
            There are currently 25 allegations against Weinstein.
            By the time this is posted it could be more.
            Now get away from me, dumbazz.

          • Jessie

            Can someone please tell me where Adumb got the impression that 13 was a magic number. How many alleged victims are there of Cosby and Weinstein? There was 13 for each like there had been 12 earlier and 14 later. What does the 13 signify? Is Glo or Lisa representing 13 or have 13 around a press conference table or something? What’s this obsession with 13? LOL!

          • Storm Junkie

            Lisa was an advisor to Harvey. She initially defended him.

          • Jessie

            Maybe all this isn’t news in Canada because Canadians are too nice (even in the workplace). LOL!!!

          • Storm Junkie

            Adam rode the short bus to school.

          • Jessie

            Yes. But somehow he was allowed to father a child. I hope they have weekly visits.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            What a lard azz, brain deficient idiot.

          • Storm Junkie

            http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/bob-weinstein-calls-brother-sick-man/story?id=50416033

            “My brother Harvey is obviously a very sick man,” Bob Weinstein told TMZ in a statement. “I’ve urged him to seek immediate professional help because he is in dire need of it. His remorse and apologies to the victims of his abuse are hollow. He said he would go away for help and has yet to do so.”
            Bob Weinstein continued to TMZ: “He has proven himself to be a world-class liar and now, rather than seeking help, he is looking to blame others. His assertion is categorically untrue from A to Z. I pray he gets the help that he needs and I believe that it is him behind all of these stories to distract from his own failure to get help.”
            ABC News confirmed the accuracy of Bob Weinstein’s statement to TMZ with a representative from the Weinstein Company.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            You idiotic fool! Lisa Bloom ruined her career because she defended Harvey Weinstein.

          • KillerKoala

            I’ve not really followed the story but she definitely didn’t ruin her career. She got Harvey to confess, to agree for counselling, he’s been fired from his job and his wife left him. I’d call that a success.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            At least you can acknowledge you misspoke and talk about stuff you know nothing about. Doofus!

          • keke

            Give us a screenshot, Storm.

          • Oxy

            ADumb, the Weinstein story has been all over the news for days. It is a huge story.

          • KillerKoala

            Trust me, I know Storm Junkie, he got it from a Google search for “Bill Cosby”. No news doesn’t mean he doesn’t stop searching for it. You don’t know the level of obsessed these people have.

          • Oxy

            I can’t trust you because you are batshiot crazy. Everybody is talking about Weinstein.
            I just did a Google search for “Bill Cosby”, and guess what? Nothing about Weinstein came up. Stuff comes up about Jerry Seinfeld.
            You might not look so foolish if you’d tried this yourself before making stuff up about people.
            But let’s pretend–just for the heck of it–that Storm googled Cosby and Weinstein came up. So?
            You were complaining on here a few days ago that people were not talking enough about Cosby. You flipped out when Jessie wrote RIP Tom Petty.
            Darned if we do, darned if we don’t.
            You are the one with an obsession about about Cosby and a nonexistent “cult”.

          • KillerKoala

            Just because you are not part of the cult, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist Oxy. Maybe you should wake up, register for Facebook and sign up for the cult. It’s right there. You can even figure out how to join in on their next protest.

          • Oxy

            I told you I don’t like Facebook. I don’t see the point. I see a lot of people posting pictures of themselves, followed by their friends telling them they are beautiful. The only way I would attend a protest is if it happened in my town. That will never happen, but if it did, I would go.
            “Cult”. Jezuus…..

          • KillerKoala
          • Oxy

            GOOD NIGHT NURSE!!!!
            I see what you mean…..it definitely looks like a cult.
            So they travel around? How? In giant busses?
            Have you contacted law enforcement? They like to keep an eye on cults.

          • KillerKoala

            I bet you think they travel around and just oops…land in the same venue as a Cosby thing. You are quite delusional Oxy. You’re in denial.

          • Oxy

            Why would I think that, lol?
            They traveled there from different parts of the country to protest the venue. Glo and Lilli came from LA, Brandy came from Chicago, Ash from the South….
            Women travelled from all over the country to attend the Million Women Rise Rally in DC in January to protest Trump. More than attended his inauguration. I know women who went. I stayed home and marched in my town. Cosby comes to my town, I’m there. But I won’t travel to find him.

          • KillerKoala

            I don’t know. Maybe you think cults have to travel together in busses for it to be a cult. The Trump march was only one. These accusers travelled multiple times for Cosby and there’s still more to come!

          • Oxy

            I don’t think there will be “more to come” because Cosby is finished. He is not going to tour again. Not enough people want to see him, and venues don’t want to book him.
            What I think is that they are not a “cult”. They are people who feel strongly about powerless women abused by powerful men, and the people who either look the other way, or are afraid to speak up. We are now seeing this with Weinstein. Things need to change.

          • KillerKoala

            Uh huh, I’ve heard that for like 3 years now and they are still working him over. You don’t think the accusers will travel to the courthouse like before? I expect a full circus in affect. Last one had drummers and a bubble maker – I expect more this time around. Maybe double the amount of accusers present. They must have a bigger presence since their last attempt to finish him failed.

          • Oxy

            Yes, I expect the accusers to travel to the courthouse like before.
            Surely you don’t imagine the drummers and bubble makers had anything to do with the accusers, lol? They just wanted to get on tv.
            The accusers’ presence had/has nothing to do with the verdict.
            It is all about the jury, and it only takes one sexist backward-thinking dinosaur out of 12 to get another hung jury.
            Rest assured, that will happen.
            So why do you imagine the accusers want to “finish” Cosby? What could their reason/motive be? Why would 60 women lie?

          • KillerKoala

            You tell me. You seem to be very dead set on making sure Cosby doesn’t work. I don’t think we’ll ever know the answer since all the accusers are heavily protected. And we don’t anyone investigating that right?

          • Oxy

            So get someone investigating, then!
            How are the accusers “heavily protected”, lol?
            I’m not “dead set”, but if Cosby comes to my town–(he won’t)–I will protest.
            Not because I want to “oppress” Cosby, but because I know in my heart of hearts that he is guilty, and I’m tired of these powerful A-holas–whether it be Harvey Weinstein, Bill O’Reilly or Bill Cosby being able to get away with their shiot.
            Rest assured, there are many men I would protest in my town, not only Cosby.
            And it is not because I am a member of a cult. It is because I am a woman, and all women have experienced criap. Your daughter will too.

          • KillerKoala

            Being the accuser means no one investigates you. And to make sure you’re well protected, you get even more high-priced lawyers and twice or three times more of them. This Cosby case is costing a lot of people, a lot of money.

          • Oxy

            Huh?
            Andrea C had the public prosecutor.
            Being the accuser means you are heavily investigated by Cosby’s high paid lawyers.
            Rest assured, Cosby’s very high paid attorneys did, and could only come up with things like bath salts and returned phone messages to try to sway the dinosaurs on the jury.
            I can’t talk to you anymore because you are incredibly “ignorant” (kind way to state it). You open your mouth and spew out anything that comes into your head with no thought whatsoever.
            Bye!

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Rachel Maddow is doing her show about Weinstein, Cosby, O’Reilly and Trump. It’s been 3 years this week since Hannibal Burress did the joke that broke the Cosby story open. All the MSNBC shows tonight are highlighting sexual assault. The commander in chief is a serial sexual assaulter. ugh! We have come a long way, baby! Still have a ways to go. Adam is nobody, nothing.

          • Oxy

            We have come a little ways, but not a long way.
            “Everyone” apparently knew about this a-hola for decades, but nobody would speak up because Weinstein was so powerful, made them so much money.
            Big time producer, studio head.
            How must it have felt to the courageous few who spoke up, like Ashley Judd, only to have the big names remain silent–Meryl Streep, Jennifer Lawrence, Judy Dench, etc.–UNTIL Weinstein was fired, gone, and then suddenly they found their voices.
            But they pretended they never knew, it was a surprise, whereas many/most admit that “everyone knew”, it was an open secret. Like Cosby.
            But had Weinstein not been fired, the big name stars would have stayed silent. SHAME!
            I can understand the fear of going up against Weinstein.
            Why would any woman ever come forward?
            The story was almost exposed in 2002 by the NYT’s, but Weinstein engaged Matt Damon and Russell Crowe to help squelch the story.
            It is not just women who need to speak out against Weinstein. Men need to also. A few have, but not enough.
            The Weinsteins, O’Reilly’s. Cosbys need to be exposed for who they really are, as well as everyday men who commit s e x ual assault and get away with it.

          • Jessie

            Leaps and bounds. Yes there’s obviously much more to do, but the past few years I feel like I’ve witnessed a MAJOR turning point, a watershed moment. I don’t blame anyone for not coming forward and taking on the huge battle that would have been the Weinstein machine, I don’t care how big your own name was. It’s a societal problem that contributed to the silence, not a weakness of character on the part of any of the women. It took a man to openly call Cosby a rapist to have it are-enter the public dialogue. That’s too bad, but that’s where we were. But now look at where we are. Thanks to the brave women willing to confront the shaming and blaming head on, it paved the way for others. The next step is eliminating stupid stereotypes from our court system, there is no such thing as a perfect victim. That’s going to take a looooong time, but it IMO society is over a pretty major hurdle.

          • Oxy

            I’m talking about this past week. I am not encouraged.
            Major Hollywood players stayed silent, leaving Rose McGowan and Ashley Judd out to dry while they waited to see if Weinstein would weather the storm. Only after Weinstein was fired and gone, did they speak up. And then they lied and pretended to be shocked. I might respect Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Russell Crowe if they had come out and said. “I am ashamed to say I was a coward who covered up for him because I was afraid for my career.” I respect Terry Crews for admitting a Hollywood Executive, grabbed and groped his Mr Peabody, and Crews too afraid to report it. Crews said he understood why women don’t report.
            Have you heard the police 2015 tape of Weinstein clearly acknowledging to one of his victims what he had done? It was a sting operation. If it had been a normal person, the police would have burst into his house and led him off in cuffs. But the investigation was mysteriously dropped, and a few days later Weinstein’s lawyer wrote a big check to the Manhattan DA’s re-election campaign. The detectives were furious. The same DA who accepted a large check from Trump’s lawyer to drop a felony case against the Trump kids in 2012. Cy Vance Jr has to go.
            https://www.salon.com/2017/10/06/harvey-weinstein-cyrus-vance-jr-david-boies/
            Same old, same old.
            Powerful men, powerless women, and the people who look the other way.
            You smell roses, but I’m feeling queasy from a horrible familiar stench.

          • Jessie

            That DA not charging is part of what I mean about the court system – they had the evidence, but as they dug into into the victim’s past, lo and behold, imperfect. Conveniently so as you point out. I don’t “smell roses”, that’s for sure, but I’m in no way shocked by it, doesn’t surprise me in the least, I’ve seen lesser versions of this many many times. What I am very optimistic about is the attention it’s getting and the now speedy action. I really feel it’s a turning point.

          • Oxy

            It does not seem like we are talking about the same case.
            It is confusing because there are so many allegations.
            It sounds as though you are talking about a rape case?
            I was talking about the young Italian actress who filed a police report because Weinstein grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt.
            Th cops wired her, and Weinstein admits it, then flips out because she does not want to go into his hotel room while he is taking a shower. Says it would be humiliating if she waited in the bar. (How is waiting in the bar humiliating?)
            http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/hear-harvey-weinstein-caught-tape-sexual-accuser-article-1.3553473
            Open and shut case. Evidence clearly there. Case dropped. DA gets a check from Weinstein.

          • Jessie

            Right, sounds like the same case to me, evidence was there, DA decided not to prosecute. Police did their job and then some, they wanted to prosecute, problem was when power and politics was able to influence the DA’s decision. There’s only one tape that I’m aware of (she was wired), so no I’m not talking about rape, I’m talking about the boob grab and the ways abusers affect silence and create such a “what the f” moments OR “this is simply the way things happen” moments. IMO the next step is for courts (DA’s, “dinosaur” juror beliefs etc) is to weigh toward reason on acquaintance assault or s3xual harassment etc. Maybe I’m being simplistic, but I think this is a major turn, I think there’s finally so many voices, even if they could have been stronger or spoken up earlier, I see the way society is reacting as a pretty major step.

          • Sally

            Evidence was not there. Law enforcement often gets it wrong because they’re not lawyers. She said “touched” which could have been an accident she got upset about and can happen without intent. Had she said “grabbed” then that’s intent and prosecutors would have had a case,

          • Jessie

            The ESL victim’s verbiage on the tape was not why the DA decided not to prosecute.

          • Sally

            It’s absolutely why the DA didn’t charge. Word’s are important and you’re held to them in a court of law.

            I listened to that tape. There was no intent proven.

            Intent has to be proven and it was not. FYI: cops are the most dangerous people for other cops and prosecutor’s to investigate and charge. Their lives are at stake yet NYC has been investigating and charging cops with sexual crimes long before the complaint against Weinstein existed. Charging wealthy men is easy compared to that.

            She thereafter signed a letter stating it never happened, settled with a NDA.

          • Jessie

            Well maybe I missed an article or something, there were many reasons the DA gave not to prosecute but that one, if true, is about the dumbest I’ve heard! Sure it’s something the defense could have used but gee whiz, let a jury decide. Sexual assault cases involving an acquaintances are never cut and dry.

          • Sally

            The prosecutor gave only one reason; no intent. His response to law enforcement is that they screwed up which they did. Instead of obtaining evidence of a crime what they actually accomplished is no proof of a and that the accusing victim is inconsistent in her accusations.

            That’s not how it works jessie. If it were your way they’d charge and try every mere accusation and there can’t be enough prosecutors nor courthouses nor anything else in the world that would be involved. . Jurors have laws they have to follow. And while you would waste valuable resources on mere accusations you would effectually deflect away from true crimes that can be proven and/or prevented.

            You can’t charge in NY without intent. She changed her story to touch, not grab, and touching can be accidental and not intentional while grabbing is intentional and would be a crime. And begging someone to come to their room is not a crime. There are also some words that require action like the word “no”. Say no more than once and you render the word meaningless, you don’t mean. Say the word “no” no more than twice followed by walking away then the word has meaning.

            Sexual harassment is a legal term involving an applicant for employment or an employee. There has to be a nexus between sexual harassment and loss of employment. And sometimes jessie, it’s actually women who cause a sexual harassment atmosphere.

            Take Rachel Carlson and Roger Ailes. What precipitated Carlson’s sexual harassment complaint was Fox news terminating her contract for poor ratings and she made alot of money out of it. It wasn’t true. NBC hired her and its ratings have gone down to the lowest its ever been. So Fox news didn’t terminate her contract because she wouldn’t have sex with Roger Ailes; her contract was legitimately terminated.

            The Weinstein case is complicated. His is where the power lay because he was a studio head in contrast to Bill Cosby who only had power to hire and fire only on shows he produced or owned. He’s been accused of sexual harassment and he’s been accused of being coarse in requesting sex. If what Gwyneth Paltrow says is true then that’s sexual harassment. If he calls a model and requests she come to his room to discuss her career then that’s a euphemism for come and have sex with me because she didn’t apply for a job.

            The filming and model industries are dirty business and unlike any other business. The casting couch has been publicaly known throughout my lifetime. You have those that yield power sexually harassing and those in which there’s no shortage of people willing to use sex to obtain jobs in the industry. They’re visual mediums that include but a not limited to appearance, sexuality and sex. Industries that aren’t reliant solely on skill sets but also on such things as personality, beauty etc.

            Now you can explain how females claim to lack communication skills by not not knowing what a “euphemism” is.

          • Jessie

            Regarding the situation with Weinstein and the DA’s decision not to prosecute, there was certainly enough evidence for a good and socially responsible DA to press charges. A great number of all kinds crimes of crimes that are successfully prosecuted have no proof of intent, it’s left up to the prosecutor to provide compelling arguments and evidence to the jury or judge that proves intent if that’s required. That’s his/her job. If a judge won’t sign an arrest warrant because he/she doesn’t think there’s enough evidence to support the argument, that’s different. The tape was only one piece of evidence, if there wasn’t any more at first, a couple of weeks worth of good detective work would clearly have revealed a treasure trove, and if the DA decided not to prosecute without that basic investigation, shame on him!! But I’m sure there was more than just the wire and report that was filed within hours of the incident (this is where Duhfenders will ask “why did she wait hours? Why didn’t she do “x”?”) There’s no doubt, zero, that other victims would be willing to testify to similar experiences and demonstrate they told others. All kinds of things we know now would have been revealed or possibly were already known by the investigators and DA.

            She reported acquaintance related sexual assault. There is much evidence to support her claim. I’m going to have to dig deeper into dates, when she reported, when she stopped being in the loop of what was going on, when the DA decided not to press charges, when she reached a settlement. From everything I’ve read it seems as though the DA decided not to press charges because he couldn’t prove intent. Shameful, he had enough or could have easily acquired enough to support a strong and compelling argument for a jury to consider. If even all that wasn’t enough for a competent and determined DA to bring charges against (maybe not a conviction, but that’s up to a jury), then we’re in a sad place as a country. It should have been up to a jury to decide Weinstein’s culpability based on the best admissible arguments and evidence from both sides. This is a he said she said case. There is no smoking gun. A great number of folks that heard the tape considers it to be compelling evidence that the guy did not easily take a “no”. A great number of folks can see why someone in a similar situation wouldn’t fight or scream or stomp off or otherwise make a scene that angered or provoked retaliation. Society is ready for this stuff to go to jury. And no laws have to be changed in order to make it happen.

            This issue is not limited to “dirty businesses” like modeling or filming. This kind of thing happens in every single industry. A single mom of a child with special needs might not fight or risk her job at a convenience store because she finally has healthcare. Surely as a society we know that? You don’t have to make a million bucks to benefit s3xually at the expense of another.

            And yes, I know women are capable of s3xual harassment in the workplace. It’s exceedingly rare, I’ve never encountered it and I’ve fielded probably more than a hundred complaints of s3xual harassment. But I know it exists because every year the law firm I work with has an annual week long conference for HR clients that investigate all kinds of complaints. Plus it’s reported in newsletters and monthly mags dedicated to the profession. Same standards should apply either way. If Weinstein was a gal with that kind of history and evidence I’d be singing a very similar tune.

          • Sally

            You wrote a whole bunch of nothing of non expertise. The DA (lawyer( decides if there’s evidence of a crime) You’re not going to win a case when your witness is caught on audio claiming something else happened, then subsequently writes that it never happened. It’s not going to happen. There was a sting operation because there was no evidence. There must be intent to prove the “touching” is a crime. It isn’t a crime to not easily accept a no without force. All she had to do was say no and walk out. She wasn’t forced to go anywhere and she called him.

            You’re conflating. Other industries require actual skills. The modeling industry requires looks, the ability to walk a certain way, look good nude, be photogenic; no skills or education required. The film industry has all of the above, acting skills any one person has do not fit all acting roles and some so called actors are strictly what’s called personality actors wherein the actor’s personality is likable to the public and can project it threw the screen.

            Most other industries are not reliant on appearance. You won’t find people commonly choosing to consensual sleep with the hiring personelle often but you will find women/men who choose to have relationships with the boss to get ahead.

            You don’t work with a law firm; you work at night. And if you did work for a law firm you’re not the attorney.

          • Jessie

            I’m not an attorney so I retain one when the company I’m working for needs one. Most companies I’ve worked for have a single law firm on retainer already and I simply go to them and spend a couple k for their research and opinion when it comes to HR matters. Do I need a labour rights lawyer? Assign me to that one. Do I need a human rights lawyer? Assign me to that one. Who knows. Maybe just get me a jr to put together a list of case law. Mostly I sign the cheque for advice and research, the lawyers work behind the scenes, their researchers are even further removed.

            And yeah Sally, abuse of power is something that happens in every industry, people may rush to think “she’s sleeping with him to get ahead”, when it’s actually a case of “did she have any good choice to preserve her livelihood?” And many more scenarios.

            But in situations like this, with Weinstein, it’s pretty clear. It should have been up to a jury to decide his guilt.

          • Sally

            Except those people don’t work at night as you do so you’re not believable.

            You’re incapable of distinguishing between industries. What part of the modeling and film industry above all others involves a lot of sexual images and sex don’t you understand? The subject matter is the film industry. You’re conflating and incapable of noting the differences. Please, women can get other jobs; even higher paying jobs. There are other movie studios. There’s the movie industry and there’s the tv industry.

            You are not a legal expert and you’re wrong. Furthermore there are excessive examples of women sleeping with the boss to get ahead. Open relationships usually precipitated by office behavior. If you don’t have FU skills then you have bigger problems. It’s getting out of hand. One women tweeted she was sexually harassed at the airport because a man asked for her phone number. Perhaps American men should avoid marrying American and Canadian women and return to mail order brides. The truth never changes but lies do.

          • Jessie

            Oh the dramatics lol, a return to mail order brides as you say, sure lol, that’ll fix the problem! Get gals who expect a lot less than what this country is supposed to deliver and then “hey!! Jackpot!”

            Women shouldn’t need to get away from a legal industry in order to leave with their dignity intact, especially once it’s been stolen. It’s their fault for getting involved. How avant-garde of you! Cutting edge! Isn’t that like a 1800s argument? Don’t we know better? Being asked for a phone number by a stranger at the airport is NOT what we’re talking about,what’s wrong with you?

          • Sally

            What the F are you posting about. You keep up with nothing. You didn’t even know McGowen lied about why twitter suspended her.

            If you want to be equal to men then be equal to men. Acquire backbones, learn how to defend yourself, learn how to be just as powerful, be accountable, take responsibility of your own actions and lives. If not that than you can choose trumps return to traditional values which included but was not limited to staying in the kitchen pregnant.

            I’m grateful I don’t have any weak whiney irresponsible unaccountable women that can’t defend themselves and are truly equal to any man in my life

          • Jessie

            Well good for you I guess, maybe some guys aspire to have no women with questionable aspirations around them. Obviously that’s where we’re headed. But we have to get there first I guess. It’s currently different for a smaller younger female Sally. Sorry but it’s true. Power inequities are used everywhere. It’s good that no female perceived themselves as less than you (I could have guessed that but thanks for confirming). Still, when it comes to power of any kind, medical insurance, getting 40 hours a week instead of 30, whatever, it factors in. Weinstein is a predator. So was that guy named Cosby. You seem to defend predators.

          • Sally

            When unimpeachable evidence is produced I’ll believe they’re predators. I believe due to Weinstein’s words that he sexually harassed applicants and employees but that’s not a criminal crime. It’s not a perception; it’s a reality. These women have knowledge and shill sets that allow them to move form industry to industry, obtain jobs during recessions, can stand up to any man, beat men and don’t allow men to intimidate them. People respect strong people; they don’t respect weak people. If every many knew that all women would immediately report to law enforcement there’d be less sexual assault.

            There are elderly women whom young man tried to raped and get knocked out with the cast iron skillet. That’s what women need to be.

            Meanwhile while women are demand equal pay for less work and taking off from work more often that men and crying about less pay they’re losing access to birth control, paid birth control, have been set back to arbitrating sexual harassment which favors the employer. You’r winning battles but losing the war.

            In addition to that ACA via EO is increasing premiums for those in need of the ACA with less medical benefits. Don’t be surprised that if women have to start paying more for medical insurance than men. And they have to learn that being “nice” doesn’t work in negotiating salaries. Improve their communication and listening skills. They to stop depending on the largess of men and learn that if they don’t care to do for themselves than no one will care for then. Stop accusing men of objectify men when in fact there’s no shortage of women objecting themselves, dress near naked, have slut walk parades, have vagina monologues, talk about yeast infection; there’s no stigma anymore or mysteries anymore. Improve their communication and listening skills And most of all work on valuing integrity. And learn euphemisms.

          • Jessie

            Hahahahaha! I watch very little TV and even I sit through like 20 commercials a week about enlarged prostates and erektile dysfunction . Lol!! But Sally draws the line at hearing about yeast infections! Hahahahaha!

            Most of the accusations levied against Harvey involve assault, even exposing your peenoose is a crime. But yes, sometimes he simply harassed. Which can also be a crime depending on how he did it.

            If you need unquestionable evidence of acquaintance related s3xual assault before agreeing a charge should be filed, I’m afraid you’re going to have to wait a very long time. In 99.9% of cases it comes down to he said she said. And neither individual is ever perfect, any testimony can be impeached, and it should be up to a jury to decide what happened and whether or not the accused is culpable.

            But I’m way more interested in the employment related discussion anyway, so I’m only too happy to go there!

            Someone like me can move between industries with relative ease. I might take a pay cut due to lack of experience with their type of operation but I can quickly make up for it. Someone who’s chosen a set iundustry, like acting and entertainment might not have such an option. I can’t be blacklisted, but I can see how many can and have to take on a totally new profession if they speak up. Why should that be left as their only good option? Sure a secretary being hit on by her boss may have to consider loosing her 3 weeks vacation and vetting in the employer’s 401k match, and all the other things earned over time because she’s not confident enough, or articulate enough, or experienced enough, or whatever enough to make staying a good option. But I’m not okay with that, are you?

            This is one place where I think the US has really dropped the ball. I spent years of monthly calls with the US and Britain. You wouldn’t believe what US employers can get away with. Head Office HR (US) would be all super enthusiastic about some new initiative, and we’d listen, and then it was Canada’s turn, and I’d say, “yeah, that sounds great, but it’s not really exactly “legal” here” and the Britain would jump in and say “yeah! Not legal here either!” On soooo many things! I could spend hours on just two examples.

            Anyway. Point is, no one likes to hear about yeast infections.

            And I will end with a quote that ends all quotes, this here is the best you’ll ever see folks!

            “ They to stop depending on the largess of men and learn that if they don’t care to do for themselves than no one will care for then. Stop accusing men of objectify men when in fact there’s no shortage of women objecting themselves, dress near naked, have slut walk parades, have vagina monologues, talk about yeast infection; there’s no stigma anymore or mysteries anymore. ”
            Sally Sue

          • Jessie

            McGowan had her twitter account frozen last night because she called out Ben Affleck the day before. Yep. She used the “f” word. So. Twitter can’t stop a POSPOTUS from using the platform as a tool to spread hate and misinformation, but they can stop the gal who calls out a guy for being complicit and lying about the sexual abuse of others. Well. Guess what company is now on my radar? Unbelievable. Yes, so much worse to tell a guy pretending not to know what was going on to eff off than it is to make North Korea think you’re on the brink of declaring war. The feigning ignorance is troubling, best to say you’re upset by it all instead of adding you had no idea when you clearly did. I still don’t think any of the actresses or actors had to be heroes, I don’t feel they had any duty of any kind to take on a monster and his empire (HR and colleagues/ partners is another story). But good grief, to silence someone, I’m now going to picture Affleck’s mug every time I see an Adumb post.

          • Sally

            Twitter reported they temporarily closed out her account because she tweeted a personal phone number.

          • Jessie

            Well that was a stupid move on her part, it must have been removed within seconds. Still can’t believe they don’t have a stand on using their platform to threaten nuclear war….

          • Sally

            That’s because POTUS has the authority to do so.

          • Oxy

            You are 100% right about Mcgowan vs Trump, but it is not all about power?
            McGowan is powerless, Trump is POTUS.
            Twitter is too stupid to understand the harm Trump is doing with his tweets.
            (Which person at Twitter would make that decision?)
            I will join you in bringing down Twitter, if you tell me how to do it.
            That being said, picture what you like, but I would never cast Affleck as Adumb in my Disqus movie.
            Affleck looks nothing like Adumb, plus Affleck is smart and funny. I don’t think Affleck had anything to do with getting McGowan kicked off Twitter.
            Yes, I am mad at him for pretending he never knew about Weinstein. Ben needs to come out right now, and admit that he knew all along, and say he is sorry for his BS statement.
            Ben: Just say you were not thinking, you rushed to put out a statement because the issue is important to you, admit to being a coward/a-hola, apologize, end of story.
            As for Damon, I now think he was used by Weinstein, and did not understand what he was doing when he called Mcgowan.
            The thing about both Damon and Affleck is that while I don’t love them, I kind of like them.
            I really like the movie, ” The Talented Mr Ripley”, with Matt Damon.
            And they are both funny, have great senses of humor.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me
          • Oxy

            Please tell me you are not citing Breitbart, Ash.
            I don’t know about Casey Affleck.
            But at least Ben has apologized. It was a quick grope, and he was not in a position of power. You can see it on the video.
            This is somewhat detailed in Chapter 15 of my book, the chapter directed at clueless male readers.
            My attitude about quick gropes is that if you are prepared to receive a punch, or a slap, or a hard push accompanied by a “WTF ARE YOU DOING!” then go for it. Because that is how I usually react. It is an instinctual reaction. Probably not the smartest, but I lash out like a dog. If the groping is more subtle….if they disguise it, like pretending to want to give me a hug so that they can press my bosoms against their chest and hold them there, then I will squirm out and make a note to never hug that person again. If they attempt to hug me at a later date, I will hold out my hand for a shake or a high five, If they protest, I will explain that I did not like the last hug. And should they question me in front of others, others will hear the explanation. This summer I didn’t exactly get groped, but a married Trump supporting acquaintance at an outdoor barbecue restaurant put his arm around my shoulders, pulled me to his side and said, “C’mhere. Let me hug that lucsious body”. Only our sides touched, but I didn’t like the lucious body comment. If he had simply said, give me a hug, he could have gotten away with it because it would have been in a gray area. He is also obese and repulsive. And he gave no indication that he planned to release me from his grasp soon. So I sloshed my IPA which was in a big plastic cup on the front of his shirt and said, very annoyed, “Jesus! You made me spill my beer! I paid $4 for that beer!” The arm holding the beer was the one pressed up against his bulk and I made it look like an accident. People witnessed it, and probably thought I was a biotch, but that tub of lard had been working my nerves for awhile. His wife was not at the restaurant, and he did not offer to replace my spilled beer. Nor did I ask him to, of course. But you can’t do that with the Cosbys and the Weinsteins and the Steven Seagulls, the powerful guys. Even a powerless Joe Schmoe might not appreciate my punches, and could hit me back. Don’t get me wrong. When I was younger I was more acquiescent and “polite”. It took decades for me to become spitfire Oxy. Young self conscious Oxy would have been humiliated and silently stewing. It’s the current Oxy, the one who goes to the grocery store dressed like a “clown” (Sally, lol!) who throws punches when called for.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            I know!!! Oxy. I googled afflict and saw that story. I didn’t notice it was Breitbart til I posted it. Can’t stand Bannon or Breutbart. FYI. I knew once I hit post id be hearing about it.

          • Oxy

            “afflict”, lol!

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            the puns of auto correct. afflict/affleck Breitbart/breitbutt same/same

          • Jessie

            I don’t particularly like Ben Affleck and I don’t find him remotely attractive, but since he wasn’t responsible for shutting down McGowan I won’t cast him as Adumb (I would have required him to put on weight and wear a spandex unitard). I think a lot of people are saying they are shocked when they aren’t. Cowards, but I don’t hold them responsible in any way for failing to prevent what Weinstein did. Except of course for HR and his powerful business partners who looked the other way, they had a duty to do something, even it was simply quitting. As for Damon, I always doubted he would knowingly try and squelch Waxman’s story if he knew the full scope of it.

            Jane Fonda says she feels ashamed for not speaking out sooner. But it wasn’t her place to out a confidence of that kind, no matter how horrific. It’s up to the victim to speak out, if and when they choose. And it’s up to all of us to make that a reasonable and best choice. This case has totally piqued my interest in finding out what kind of cases Maine prosecutors have decided not to pursue.

            On a positive note, Susan Collins has decided NOT to run for governor. Maine has wanted her to for a long time, but this year she’s been inundated by people (one was me lol) begging her to stay in the senate. We might get another idiot governor but that’s better than an idiot president allowed to run amok!! Thank you Susan!

          • Oxy

            I don’t know if Ben would have agreed to put on the extra poundage, but you can rest assured, he would have put on the leotard and given an Academy Award worthy performance as Adumb.
            I reread his statement, and Ben did not pretend to be surprised, or that he didn’t know. He just said that the “additional” allegations of assault that he read about in the paper that day made him sick. I now think Rose M should have had a measured public response than “ef you Ben A” on Twitter. She could have revealed that Ben knew about the behavior, and said something like, “The fact that you continued to kiss Harvey’s azz for the sake of your career made me sick.”
            I like funny people, and when they move into the realm of very funny or hilarious, I start finding them attractive. Jimmy Fallon is my ideal man. Note that I’m the one who has to find them hilarious. Can’t be someone like a Cosby, who I never found funny, only annoying (The reason I find “House of Cosbys” clever and somewhat amusing). Or a Bob Hope. Yawn.
            Do you have any idea how funny Ben Affleck can be?

          • Jessie

            I guess I’m sensitive to “should haves”. McGowan certainly shouldn’t have posted a private phone number, that’s a no brainer for me. But I will not say how I think she “should” have reacted to Affleck’s public response. I don’t know what went down between their private conversations, but if she indeed told him of a personal experience and years later saw him tweet that it was the “additional” stuff that made him sick, well, I can understand how an “eff you” might be the first or fifth thing you type. She “could” have said so many things, she reacted emotionally, and I’m not going to judge that. Nor am I going to blame Affleck for taking it the way he did. Maybe she recounted her experience to him in a way that made him think it wasn’t traumatizing or sickening. Maybe she laughed while recounting a “can you believe he did this?” story. Maybe he didn’t believe her because he experienced a lot of actresses trying to seduce him. Who knows. Don’t care. It’s about Weinstein’s actions and not the actresses’ or their confidants failures. These things are never clear cut. I don’t blame or judge (I hope) any of the ways any of the players responded. Except Weinstein, HR, and his equals in his companies.

            I’ve seen Ben Affleck be funny. He’s simply not my cup of tea. Jimmy Fallon is though! Did you see him when Nicole Kidman talked about a “date” they were on just after (during?) his SNL stint? He had no idea he had a chance so he really wanted to get home to play video games and she was all like “what’s wrong with my hair or my outfit? Why isn’t this guy interested?” Such a funny exchange! They were both married by the time they talked about it but you could see Fallon blush, he was a bumbling sweetie pie fool, he had no idea he had a chance with Kidman. He’s in the realm of ideal man for me too. Better to preemptively expect a “no” than preemptively expect a “yes”.

          • Oxy

            McGowan tweeted what Affleck’s words to her in the same tweet where she told him about Weinstein. (In the same tweet where she told him to eff off). Affleck allegedly yelled to her (about Weinstein) “GODDAMMIT! I TOLD HIM TO STOP DOING THAT!!”
            I think she is upset that Affleck claimed to be “disturbed” by the “additional” allegations.
            I believe she was saying, “oh, so you got over ‘my’ allegations enough to be friendly with Harvey again, but these new ones disturb you?” Legitimate point.
            Kind of like when I posted to you, “wait! you made out with SYPHILLIS, but you won’t make out with ME?”,( lol.) It’s a way of protesting, “And what am I? Chopped liver? ” when one feels insulted. That is how I interpret it.
            Was not aware jane Fonda had spoken up on the matter, but found the CNN interview with Christiane Amanpour where she is asked about it. If you really believe things are changing for the better, read the comments. Part of it can be attributed to the 1/3 of the country who are John Waynes and will never forgive “Hanoi Jane”, but most of it is the same old sexist, ageist criap.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TMHdsFYDOo
            Will have to address comedy in a different post. Too upset with the idiots in this country again.
            I will just say that the thing that made me fall in love with Fallon was his “Real Housewives of Late Night” skits, where he and the guys dress up and play their own biotchy “wives”. Comedy Gold. So well written.

          • Jessie

            I fell in love with Fallon when he played a college stoner with a web cam on SNL back in the 90’s or something. Loved watching him live in Indy (during the hours before taping lol), but still found his “Real Housewives” of the NHL super funny. His Bob Costa moments were even funnier, but suffice it to say JW and I left that theatre holding our bellies in laughter and I for one really had to pee as a result. So. If my kidneys fail anytime soon I may have to sue him for being too funny.

            I think McGowan is upset over not being taken seriously by who she thought was a friend. Even if he didn’t do anything I think she wouldn’t have minded except that he later seemed to forget. I can totally understand her anger. No, it’s not like anything I did with Beano on an anonymous post it board. At all. Not even close. Are you even Oxy?!?

          • Oxy

            Of course, I am Oxy.
            I am not claiming making out with Syph (revolting, vile person–one of the worst Duhfenders!) is of the same degree of importance as celebs speaking out about serious issues–it is not!–which is why I wrote LOL, lol.
            My point was Rose M felt insulted.
            I think Ben took her seriously at the time.
            It is that he “forgot” or “moved on”, and then pretended to get outraged anew.
            Whatever Jane Fonda might have said only would have “harmed” the cause because she, like Hillary, is so hated by a large segment of the population.
            Jane is polarizing, and she knows it. She will answer questions if posed to her, but anyone can see she is uncomfortable.
            But someone like a Meryl Streep or a George Clooney speaking up? And I am talking about AFTER the allegations by Rose M and Ashley Judd, and BEFORE Weinstein was fired. Instead of waiting to see how it played out.
            You said you have seen Affleck be funny.
            His Keith Olbermann imitation on SNL? That was funny, but….
            I am talking about the whole thing with Sarah Silverman/Jimmy Kimmel (who I also have a crush on), Matt Damon /Ben Affleck.
            Did you see Sarah Silverman, after she broke up with Kimmel, go on his show and perform her song about Matt Damon?
            https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=yfp-t-s&p=sarah+silverman+matt+damon+jimmy+kimmel#id=3&vid=d624075de0c91581d285da79682ea5a4&action=click
            Song is about one minute in.
            What is really funny is that Kimmel eventually came back with a response that included many celebs: Brad Pitt, Robin Williams, Cameron Diaz, Don Cheadle, Harrison Ford, too many to name.
            But the funniest of all in the video, after Kimmel, is Ben Affleck. Hilarious performance. This is when my respect/admiration for Affleck began.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu7wV3s0i-Y

          • Jessie

            Ha! First I have to comment on those vids, super funny! Haven’t seen them in what, 10 years? But yeah, Affleck can be funny, love how he’s able to poke fun at himself (that’s the American in me, the Canadian part of me doesn’t understand self deprecating humour). But I’d rather be Sara Silverman than Jimmy Kimmel if you know what I’m saying! I don’t know what it is, he’s never really offended me (Gigli aside lol), it’s just a combination of his face, his voice, his mannerisms, I don’t know, he’s just one of those really rare people that I immediately dislike for no good reason. I’m trying to think of someone else I’ve felt that way toward… I can think of several politicians, Steven Harper etc… trying to think of another actor… I know there was an actress back in the day who immediately bugged me but I can’t for the life of me remember who she was or why, it was something about her face, voice, and mannerisms. Idk. I’m just not an Affleck fan. And that he might have “forgot” being told about a s3xual assault makes me think “yeah, figures, meh, what do you expect, it’s Ben Affleck”.

            I STILL, to this day and probably forever will NEVER fault a person, Streep or Clooney included, for not going public or not working on films he produced. HR and peers in his field and companies is another matter as far as I’m concerned. While I’m not a fan of folks who state they didn’t know when yeah, they actually did but somehow “forgot”, I’m not as bothered by them as say the Oliver Stones who say “let’s not rush to judgment, the courts should decide what we think, let’s wait for that”. Creep. As soon as I heard him say that a couple days ago in Korea I thought “hmm, wonder what you did, Oliver”, and sure enough, I just googled him to make sure I was referring to the right dude (thought for a minute it might have been Scorsese), and what do I find? Yep. When it comes to Weinstein and you’re also a powerful man who says we shouldn’t judge because 12 random people haven’t told us what to believe, what kind of skeletons are in your closet mister!!

            Polarizing or not, I think Jane made an appropriate and understandable decision in not trying to out Weinstein. She takes on a lot of good causes, her voice is one that supports women, and sometimes supporting another woman means protecting a confidence. I actually have more respect now for her, she’s struggling with her choice and I get that now that we know the magnitude of what that guy did. But I really hope she doesn’t beat herself up too much over it, I think she did the right thing. As for the haters, those folks are always going to be more vocal in their online postings, I don’t think they’re an accurate gauge on society.

          • KillerKoala

            Did you forget about the other 57 accusers? You seem to hitch to the one accuser who makes your point seem valid. Of course, the accuser’s history with the accused is going to be under investigation with the criminal case. It’s obvious. You can’t just take someone’s word for it.

          • Oxy

            No, I have not forgotten about the other 59 accusers.
            Most of their stories ring true to me.
            There, but for fortune, go I.
            I hitch to the one accuser because she is the only one with an actual case.
            I can’t take “someone’s word for it”?
            You are taking Cosby’s word (which he has actually never given/he hides behind expensive lawyers) against 60 women.
            One man–a confirmed liar–against 60 women.

          • KillerKoala

            Cosby can’t talk. He’s being silenced. When has he ever been a confirmed liar? Because he was hanging out with other women?

            What do you understand about can’t take someone’s word for it? There are 2 sides of the story and both need to be told. If you are scared of your own side of the story, I’d be concerned.

          • Oxy

            And what is Cosby’s side? What has he said, and when did he say it?
            Nobody has silenced him, unless it his his lawyers. Talk away, Cosby.
            A married father of five out with other women, trying to have s e x with them and doing it by hook or crook, instead of being home with his wife and kids? Admitting under oath that he did not want Camomile finding out? I call such a person a liar, and worse.
            Is that kind of behavior ok with you?

          • KillerKoala

            Katherine McKee disagrees with you. She’s appealing her defamation case because she didn’t like that Cosby spoke out and defended himself. Certainly he should be allowed to talk, right? Cosby hasn’t talked about any of his relationships with these women. He barely even talked about the relationship with Constand. Are you more concerned with his infidelity?

          • Oxy

            Of course I’m not more concerned with his infidelity. We were discussing the fact that he is a liar. Infidelity and lying go hand in hand.
            He hasn’t talked about his “relationships” because they weren’t relationships. They were crimes.
            Look, you are just too clueless. I can’t spend any more time talking to you.

          • KillerKoala

            They weren’t crimes. Normally victims of a crime report it to the police, they did not.

          • Oxy

            We’ve been down this road many times before. There is no point in explaining anything to you because you can’t retain it. I can’t spend my life repeating the same things over and over because you are too dense to understand simple things. You should have worn some kind of head protection during your hours of wrestling. Now your brain is scrambled.
            Storm provided you a link that I think you would enjoy.
            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/
            It’s recent and there are many cult memebers posting there. They don’t know you, so you can begin anew.

          • KillerKoala

            Well then why don’t you sit back and let the trial take care of it?

          • Oxy

            I am.
            Now go away and let me talk to Jessie about dogs and food and “Survivor”. Stop pestering me.

          • KillerKoala

            Do you understand how a forum works? Use an instant messaging client like Skype if you want to talk about dogs, food, and Survivor. Geesh.

          • Oxy

            WHY ARE YOU STILL TALKING TO ME?
            GET THE EF AWAY!!

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Gosh. He is such an illogical imbecile. You can’t reason with an unreasonable person. He doesn’t get that it’s rapists who rape.

          • Storm Junkie

            He really doesn’t. There’s this mentality that comes with being a Cosby defender that if women would be more careful, men couldn’t be rapists.
            In their minds when Andrea reluctantly let Bill talk her into taking the pills she was somehow responsible for what happened and Cosby is the victim.

            Bill was able to set these women up and talk them into doing things they otherwise wouldn’t have because of the public image he paid people to maintain and these women trusted him not to hurt them. Taking a pill for a headache or cold or accepting a drink isn’t anything out of the ordinary.
            Mentors are supposed to do things in your best interest. Bill only cared about what Bill wanted and found a way to steal it.

          • Oxy

            No, you do. You are trying to get Jessie kicked off Disqus because you don’t like her opinion about Cosby.
            I have a problem with people who think it is their job to censor the free speech of others. I personally don’t “hate” Cosby. (Trump, on the other hand, I do hate.) However Cosby is a serial s e x ual predator, and it needs to be addressed.
            Most people know Cosby is guilty. You have a different opinion which requires you to slander his victims. I don’t like your opinion, but I wouldn’t try to censor you, get you kicked off.

          • KillerKoala

            Jessie needs to learn a lesson about how to treat others. She feels like only her opinion matters and forces it onto other people. For example, she doesn’t want Cosby on the radio – nobody can have Cosby on the radio. She’s the one censoring people for her own opinions. So yes, I have valid reasons to attack her beliefs. She doesn’t like it, she can leave. I will not have her forcing her opinions on others.

          • Jessie

            Oh for heavens sake. So dramatic! I don’t have as much power as you fantasize me to, I’m just one gal. Hundreds, nay, thousands got the dude off LaughUSA, it was simple economics. Users didn’t want him on a station they were listening to. There were enough users who felt that way, so bing bang boom, dude was removed. I’m only one of many Adumb. What’s up with you stalking one instead of the issue?

          • KillerKoala

            Because you enjoy censoring others.

          • Jessie

            No, I haven’t even reported or flagged Craig. I don’t like him so I block him. Easy peasy.

          • Oxy

            Jessie has never censored anyone, nor have I.
            Do you even know what it means to censor, how bad censorship is?
            Lord knows, I have engaged in knockdown drag out fights with people like Sally, Fibbs, Craig….
            I don’t like what they write, but I wouldn’t dream of trying to censor them.
            Free Speech is the number #1 right in the US.
            Best you take a break, leave Disqus, if you can’t handle it.

          • Jessie

            Does this guy actually think I had Cosby removed from a comedy channel?! Hello, earth to Adumb!! My gosh. One of many. That’s what I was. I was fine with cancelling Serius, so were thousands of others. That’s probably why they called me back and gave me half a year for free, I dunno, I just don’t have to listen to Cosby’s voice when I’m driving.

          • Oxy

            It appears he thinks the Hate Group is a cult, and that you are one of the leaders, lol.
            He thinks I am a member of the cult, and that we (the cult) travel around recruiting people.

          • KillerKoala

            That’s Brandy’s job – she was or still is recruitment leader. How do you think she got 3000 people in her cult? Advertising.

          • Oxy

            Advertising? Where?

          • KillerKoala

            Everywhere. Just like all you guys – every Cosby video/article on the internet that you can find she was posting and advertising her group.

          • Oxy

            Do you know what “advertising” is?

          • KillerKoala

            Oh I have a feeling I have to define it for you.

          • Oxy

            Do you mind?
            I am confused….
            Also, what do you think Jessie’s job with the cult is?

          • KillerKoala

            Job title…uhhhh…General pain in the butt? Kinda like Storm Junkie and Wally Damron. Post monkey.

          • Oxy

            LOL!
            So why would you waste your time going after a “general pain in the butt”, a mere drone instead of going after one of the Cult’s kingpins?

          • KillerKoala

            And what would that solve?

          • Oxy

            Nothing. That is the point.
            You are going after a Canadian woman in her 40’s married to an American, living in Maine…why?
            Because you think she is one of the 3,000?
            I know this might sound sexist, but I have always been appalled by men who pick on women.
            Yes, you can say, if women want to be equal, they need to be able to take it. And perhaps you are correct.
            Maybe it is my generation.
            I grew up in the 60’s/70’s and can understand Weinstein’s and Cosby’s (disgusting) attitude towards women. I know what the culture was (and still is), and can understand why they felt entitled.
            But men who bully and pick on women?
            What is that about? What kind of “man” does that?
            Back in the day we would say, “Go pick on someone your own size!”
            Admittedly that may be a double standard, but Good Gawd!
            I know for a fact that if I were a man, I would never go after a woman like you are doing with Jessie.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            he is nothing.

          • Oxy

            Yea, I know.
            None of them are anything, except KD, who is smart.

          • KillerKoala

            What about women who pick on men? Is that ok? If you want to try to ruin someone, you better expect backlash no matter if you are man or woman. I’m also not going after Jessie, I merely followed her on Disqus. She’s been stalking me not the other way around.

          • Oxy

            How is she “stalking” you, lol?
            You are doing more than “following” her.
            You are flagging her all comments and trying to get het kicked off Disqus because you don’t like her and her comments. You are trying to censor her.

          • KillerKoala

            Like she’s censoring Cosby? She doesn’t like getting a taste of her own medicine? Maybe she should realize that not everyone agrees with her views and it’s not just about her view that matters. If she doesn’t want Cosby on the radio, turn it off or change the channel.

            Also, you should probably ask her how much she knows about me. It’s a lot more than I know about her.

          • Jessie

            You don’t get the late night infomercials? Not even the radio campaigns? Lol, I think he’s probably referring to Facebook posts. Hahaha!

          • Oxy

            I don’t listen to the radio often, and am asleep at night.
            Might it be the robocalls?
            ADumb apparently believes that any time Brandy goes online and talks about Cosby, it is “advertising”, and as a result she has managed to recruit/brainwash 3,000 people.

            Adumb
            “Everywhere. Just like all you guys – every Cosby video/article on the internet that you can find she was posting and advertising her group.”

            Yes, he is referring to the Facebook follows, lol.

          • Jessie

            Lol!!!!!!! That’s awesome!! What a loser. He can’t possibly be THAT stupid. Do you think he’s truly dumbfounded that so many people think Cosby is guilty all on their own?

          • Oxy

            Sadly….

          • KillerKoala

            You wouldn’t be here if people could figure out Cosby was guilty on their own. You know it’s true J-say!

          • Jessie

            No one’s changing anyone’s mind at this point and there’s no action left to take with regards to Cosby. He did his part for the social change.

          • KillerKoala

            No, she censored Bill Cosby the second she approved the idea to get Cosby off the air. That’s censorship. What else do you call it?

          • Oxy

            I call it giving a station you subscribe to and pay for your opinion.
            Station does not need to giveJessie’s complaint any attention, but if she is one of hundreds/thousands, and there are no opposing views voiced, or very few, then what is the station going to do?
            It is a business decision, plus they no doubt have their own opinion on the matter.
            If you could for (only) one minute consider that Cosby is guilty, then you would understand where “we” are coming from. All odds point to his guilt.
            “We” consider you blind. That is the kindest way of stating it.
            “We” truly believe you are slandering/shaming victims of s e xu al assault.
            You make us sick.
            Yet we don’t try to silence/censor you.
            (Plus, I thought Cosby Show was back on the air? No?)

          • KillerKoala

            I make you sick? You should look in the mirror. I am here only giving my opinion. I have never tried to publicly or behind anyone’s back tried to attack anyone, their associations, or their family like you and the thousands of friends in your group. How many people are you going to harass publicly when Cosby goes to court again because you disagree with Cosby’s views?

          • Oxy

            I don’t disagree with Cosby’s views because I don’t know what his “views” are.
            I suspect he may be anti-Trump, as I am, and I might agree with his views.
            Heck, I might even rather Cosby be our president than Trump.
            It is Cosby’s behavior I have a beef with.
            I disagree with your views, and I should have made it clear that your views make me sick, not you personally.
            I don’t have a group, do not belong to any.
            I am just one person sitting in a chair at home.
            If “thousands” agree with me and attend the trial (I won’t be there), then why don’t you rally thousands to attend who share your view? Better than the 12–mostly obese–people who showed up last time to support Cosby. What’s up with that?
            If you believe the anti Cosby people are racist, then why not organize “the blacks”? Why did “the blacks” not show up for Cosby last time?
            I will answer my last 3 questions: because it is obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense that Cosby is guilty.

          • KillerKoala

            Did you not witness what happened outside of the trial? Lili Bernard went knee deep against the blacks in front of the courthouse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KTXtvMvMYA
            Or maybe you mean the “Black Lives Matter” movement didn’t show up at the courthouse. And why are you insisting that only obese people support Cosby? What kind of sicko are you?

            And I’ll be honest I don’t believe you that you are not part of Jessie’s group. They have 3000 followers and you’re not one of them? You just found them on the internet and joined in?

          • Oxy

            LB didn’t go knee deep against “the blacks”.
            She got into it with one black guy, an idiot who was trying to lecture her on rape kits.
            I was being facetious when I spoke about “the blacks”. There is no such group.
            I was certainly not talking about the “BLM” movement, a movement that I respect and support, btw.
            I did make a comment about obese people supporting Cosby, but it was because I noticed that the 12 or 15 people wearing pro Cosby t-shirts supporting him outside the courthouse were all overweight. Not necessarily obese. And I found that odd. 60% of Americans are overweight. Yet it seems like almost 90% of Cosby supporters are overweight. Would could that mean?
            I am a lone wolf, as is Jessie. Neither of us belongs to a group. No, I am not one of the 3000 followers, but only because I don’t do Facebook. I don’t believe in Facebook. If I did Facebook, I would follow them. Yes, I found “them” (Brandy, Deebs, Jessie) on Disqus, and have no contact with them outside of what you can read in my open history. I have never spoken to any of them. I don’t know Jessie’s real name.

          • KillerKoala

            If you look at the video, it’s far more than just 1 guy. It’s a group of people. She got into it with many black people, some trying to be converted to their side. And I also have no idea why you are obsessed with obese people. What does that say about you?

          • Oxy

            There is a group of people standing around watching listening, most of them reporters with tv cameras. Then there are regular looky loos filming with their phones who are not talking. She got into it with ONE black idiot. She was not trying to “convert” him (Do you think it is some sort of cult, lol?). She was telling him that she stayed silent for so long because of people with attitudes like his. People who call her a liar, and try to shame her.
            I am obsessed with obese people because of the staggering cost of health care in this country. Obese people have far greater levels of diabetes, heart disease, cancer, and everybody ends up paying for it. They drive up our healthcare costs because they don’t know how to eat. Or they know, but don’t care.

          • KillerKoala

            It sure sounds like a cult with 2 of the accusers trying to convert people in from the courthouse. I’m not making it up either, it actually happened so you tell me. Oh wait, you can’t, you aren’t officially part of their cult since you aren’t in the group.
            The “black idiot” was actually trying to get some sense out of this situation. She was ranting and raving about how she understood the struggle of the black people and about Martin Luther King. Sounds like she was trying to convince people it wasn’t racist when everything she did was to oppress Cosby.

          • Oxy

            You must have some super sense of hearing, or I am deaf because I can make out very little of what either she or the black idiot are saying.
            Exposing your rapist is not “oppressing” them.
            Race has nothing to do with the Cosby case. Cosby was an equal opportunity rapist, and, in case you haven’t noticed, Lili is black.
            Anyway, it is pointless to talk with someone like yourself who actually believes such crazy, absurd things.
            Do you even know what a cult is?

          • KillerKoala

            Removing their star from the Hollywood Walk of Fame is an example of oppression and that’s just one of the things Lili has done. That had nothing to do with “exposing your rapist”.

            Cult: a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.
            In this case, Cosby.
            Yes, it’s a cult.

          • Oxy

            You’d better learn what oppression means.
            The star is still there, Adumb.
            It is YOU who has a misplaced and excessive admiration for Cosby.
            I can’t talk to you anymore right now. It is too wearisome. You are just too wacky.

          • KillerKoala

            It doesn’t mean she didn’t TRY! So it’s only oppression if the oppression actually works…good one. I know what oppression is and I can see it being done to Cosby. I’m not blind to it.

          • Oxy

            I give up…(smh)

          • KillerKoala

            I didn’t expect you to agree with the oppression to be honest. You’re too far gone for that.

          • Oxy

            LOL!

          • Kathy Harrington
          • Oxy

            Not buying it, KD.
            The author of that article lives in England, a country that pays all healthcare costs for their citizens. UK even pays for nursing homes. Can’t compare their healthcare costs to ours.
            Yes, I am aware that it is not only the obese, smokers, and alcoholics who run up healthcare costs. The elderly also. Yet, we can’t control aging. Whereas the other “groups” are making a choice.
            https://stateofobesity.org/healthcare-costs-obesity/

          • Kathy Harrington

            “Changes in the health status of the population–for example, aging and trends in smoking and obesity–are frequently mentioned as causes of cost increases, but so far their effect has been modest.19 Aging has a much greater effect on the split between public and private spending than on total spending,20,21 as we discuss below. The increasing prevalence of obesity has been associated with increases in spending over time, but again the effect is small and is offset by the reduced spending growth associated with reductions in smoking.22-24”

            https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/cutler/files/nejmhpr1310415.pdf

          • KillerKoala

            What’s taking Bill Cosby off the radio have to do with the dealing with the issue? Nothing so why you being a hypocrite?

          • Jessie

            I didn’t “take” Cosby off the radio fool, I was just one of thousands who didn’t want him on the station we’re paying to listen to. I wish my corner store would devote more space to water products instead of Moxy, but meh, people like their Moxy I guess. Consumerism. Who knew. Stop being the token stupid guy. You had a Canadian education, quit pretending you didn’t.

          • KillerKoala

            So why aren’t you petitioning, emailing, and phoning that corner store to devote more space to water products like you did with Cosby? Sounds like you are full of hypocrisy.

          • Oxy

            Stating your opinion is not forcing it upon others.
            Jessie is just one person. One person can’t keep someone off the radio.
            If you want Cosby on the radio, let Howard Stern, Doctor Laura, whomever you listen to, know.
            Unfortunately for you, most people truly believe that Cosby is guilty. They don’t want him around. They don’t want to listen to his self serving pompous bs.
            So when you write that you “will not have her forcing her opinions on others”, what do you mean?
            You are saying that you will try to keep her from being heard, because no one can force their opinion on someone else. An opinion is an opinion. What you are doing is playing Censor.

          • KillerKoala

            “They don’t want to listen to his self serving pompous bs.” Keep your opinion to yourself and don’t project it upon others. This is exactly what you do on every forum. Make people believe what you want them to. I’m sick of it so I will censor you just like you censored Cosby. Don’t like it, then leave. Your choice.

          • Oxy

            Keep my opinion to myself?
            This is a public forum for people to express their opinions.
            I haven’t “made” anyone believe anything.
            In 2 years, not one Duhfender has changed their opinion because of anything I have written.
            Not you, not Fibbs, not Craig, not Burt, not Piece and Freedumb, not Keke, not KD, not Sally Sue, not getonmynerva, no one! And it ain’t gonna happen!
            Cosby is not censored. He is not gagged. He can give a news conference any time he likes.
            But you say you will censor me? You are going to censor me? That is a whole other kettle of fish. I don’t know what has made you snap. You used to be easy-going, but rest assured, this thing is going to backfire on you. You may win in the short run, but in the long run this thing is going to come back and bite you in your leotard covered azz. For your own sake, stop now.

          • KillerKoala

            Cosby has always been censored. Everything from his TV shows to his radio broadcasts. He can’t even say “I didn’t do” because they’ll threaten to sue him for defamation. Everybody who thinks he’s a rapist doesn’t want Cosby to talk. Come on, you know this Oxy. You approve the censorship.

          • Oxy

            It is not censorship.
            Cosby can come out at any time and say he didn’ t do it, he is innocent, this is a all a vast conspiracy.
            Lord knows if someone were accusing me of a crime/crimes I did not commit, I would be out there every dam day denying it.
            I would be outraged.
            I wouldn’t worry about defamation suits because my false accusers would need to prove defamation. I would counter sue. I would insist on taking a lie detector test.
            I would not hide behind high paid defense lawyers and refuse to talk.
            And if I went to criminal trial, I would have a long line of character witnesses, as many as allowed. Family and friends who would swear under oath that they know Oxy and never would she do such a thing. My husband and children would attend every day of the trial, not sit at home.
            And I would absolutely testify at my trial and face cross examination.
            WE ALL WANT COSBY TO TALK!
            Would like nothing better.
            Sorry, but Cosby has always behaved like a guilty man.
            And you are harassing Jessie.
            And don’t understand what censorship is.

          • KillerKoala

            “Cosby can come out at any time and say he didn’ t do it.”
            Can he? The reality is he can’t because he has to face consequences to do so. He has to get those “high-powered” lawyers of his to defend his fundamental rights as a US citizen or force losing them. You make it sound so easy but it’s not.

            Censorship is using lawyers to file civil suits when a person tries to openly defend themselves. Censorship is when accusations are used to remove that person from TV and radio. Force TV specials off the air. Maybe it’s you….who doesn’t understand what censorship is. You are so blinded by your views, you can’t even see what’s in front of you.

          • keke

            Shoot maybe Messie should do a radio show.

            The Messie Show.
            The Messie Hour.

          • keke

            Lmbo @”licker”
            Eeevery time you all say this it makes me crack. up. Hahaha.
            I’ve heard brown noser and butt kisser but a “licker”? Hahahaha. Funny to me.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            It’s so personal for Adam, it makes one wonder if he is defending Cosby and blaming victims to somehow exonerate himself. Wonder what he has done that makes him so drawn to defend rapists, his interest in “debunking rape culture”, and his addiction to pornography. He acts like he has unresolved feelings of some kind, possibly a guilty conscience that gets triggered by these women everytime one finds her voice and strength to tell what happened to them. He is definitely getting triggered and more intense feelings the longer this stretches out. He focuses on one person at the time to try and oppress, like what he did to Jessie. He is mistaken if he thinks his behaviors are being overlooked, ignored, or avoided. Trying to bury Jessie or whoever else, he is at the same time digging his own hole. If he can, he will get scared enough to stop, if not, it’s going to get much worse for him.

          • Storm Junkie

            Not sure what Adam’s deal is. Maybe he’s still upset with his failed petition and the fact that accusers were also signing it wanting an investigation.
            Stalking and trying to silence Jessie is Adam’s way of striking out because he’s been left here all alone with Burt.
            It’s not like everyone doesn’t know where he works and who’s paying him to be here.

          • KillerKoala

            You need to learn when to reign it in Jessie. Time and time again I’ve told you to stop harassing people and you keep going. Keep it up and it’ll help you get removed from Disqus faster. I can file a report for each of you.

          • Jessie

            Please stop stalking me. The comment you’re responding to was not to you. Stop.

          • Sally

            I read the cosby boards and you’re not invisible imbecile. Once and for comprehend that you’re posting on a public board for the world to read. I’ve posted a great deal about cosby; I posted today about cosby. You’re all so self absorbed you don’t know what’s going on. All you’ve done for day’s is primarily talk about other posters on this board, you, PTwhiney, junkie, and jessie.

            Vapid small minded comments without the guts to face who you’re talking about.

            Go hide somewhere else.

            Look the word P U B L I C you dolt. You’re posting to the world to read and; you’re telling the world you’re business. It’s not your private newsvine you simple minded lowlife. You want privacy you’re going to have to use email.

          • Oxy

            So what?
            And it is your business?….how?….what I post in a day?
            If you want to only post about Cosby, then post about Cosby.
            You are posting to me because I am the only person left who has not blocked you.
            You have no one else to talk to because you are insufferable.
            If you had any other kind of life, you would be doing it.
            Stay away from me, from us, you sick self important bag of noxious wind.
            None of us like you, nobody want to hear from you, get the EF away.

          • Sally

            Jeeezus you’re one stupid biotch. Everything you post publicly becomes everyone else’s businesses. You’re not the only one. And I don’t care if I’m block; my posts are for others to see and enjoy. Everything isn’t about you. I’m not seeing you where it matters. You’re not there because you’re nothing. WTF! If you had anyone else in life you wouldn’t be doing it. See how you project? You people have small imaginations, limited world views and stuck with 20th century thinking.

            Get off the newsvine and stay out of the public. Guarantee you, my comments will be here making fools of you without anyone of you knowing it for the entertainment of others. You’re a group of low lives.

            You never get out of the school yard. I don’t care. You’re nobody. You’re nothing. You’re free to leave the cosby newsvine and find somewhere else if they accept. Leave the cosby newsvine for those who want to discuss the case.

          • Passing Through

            You took all that jabber to tell me you wear granny panties. LMAO
            My mom always instilled in me to have clean underwear on in case you are sent to Emergency.

            The only person I see enter the Church of Sally is Keke who cautiously creeps in, bows, places a bag of Doritos at his feet does a curtsy and leaves.

          • Oxy

            LOL

          • Sally

            We’re just hospitable superior hosts while you’re not.

          • Oxy

            LOL.

          • Sally

            You’re seriously delusional. No such conversation took place.

            lifestyle – how people live. Everyone has a lifestyle moron. You have an exceedingly low lexicon.

          • Jessie

            How on earth are you able to enjoy all your newspapers when you can’t understand the simplest phrasings.

            Read my post again. Am I saying that such a conversation took place or am I saying that your whole bathroom announcement would be “like” you having announced changing your underwear everyday?

          • Sally

            You don’t communicate well. I talk about adult things and you talk nonsense. You don’t understand words either.

          • Sally

            I don’t wast time with childish shiot that you do. You need to ask yourself why it’s so odd to you when in fact there are people who read more newspapers than I do. I accomplice many things all day long. I’m multitasking while I do this. Catch up to the 21st century.

          • Sally

            Are you a robot? Lifestyle – how people live. Everyone has a lifestyle.

            Acquire a dictionary.

          • Jessie

            Do you think they also get fresh sheets?!?!

          • Sally

            Of course, each room has their own sheets assigned. What quest want’s to sleep on a bare mattress. Stupid question.

          • Jessie

            LOL!!!!

          • Passing Through

            I want the First Amendment room with the mendacious squirrel sheet set.
            You get the POS sheet set in the Crack room. Haha

          • Jessie

            Hahahaha!!!!!!

          • KillerKoala

            You ever heard of instant messaging software? You should take your off comment conversations there.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Don’t start your sh1t with me adumb. And I suggest you stop following Jessie as well unless you want to unleash some serious backlash on yourself. If you want to push me on this, keep on.

          • KillerKoala

            Oh I understand clearly how deranged you individuals are. I assure you police activity will be called in if you attempt any serious backlash. Your call. You are not welcome on this forum or any of them for that matter. Please take your “No” and respect it.

          • Jessie

            I’ve highlighted it as a problem, im not looking to get him kicked off or anything, I just don’t want him to follow me without having to monitor my account thirty times a day! We’ll see what happens!

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            He has tried to follow me a few times too. Considering his unwillingness to accept your “no” ,wanted to make clear that I’m not so tolerant. I don’t have the same tolerance for him that you do. You are much kinder and patient than me with all the duhfenders.

          • Jessie

            Well I don’t feel like I have much of a choice with him, he’s going to keep doing it whether I tolerate it or not. I just want to be in control of my followers list without having to check it dozens of times a day!

          • Oxy

            Then why are you following her, lol?

          • KillerKoala

            Because she’s trash talking Cosby, duh.

          • Oxy

            “Duh”?
            And then you complain when she talks about subjects other than Cosby, lol?

          • Passing Through

            Has Killer ever been accused of being bright.

          • Sally

            No one’s accused you of being bright.

          • KillerKoala

            She needs to keep off topic conversations out of the Cosby field. This isn’t her social media group. She’s crashing a party she’s not invited to.

          • Oxy

            But you are the one seeking her out. If you didn’t read her posts, you wouldn’t know what, if anything, she was posting. Wouldn’t it be better if you were hanging out with your daughter, instead of Jessie? Or are you doing this while you are at work?

          • KillerKoala

            So you think if I just ignore her, she’ll just stop? Because she won’t. People who spread hate and harassment will never be stopped until they are arrested. They don’t know when to stop.

          • Oxy

            First of all, she is not spreading hate and harassment. She believes, as most people do, that Cosby is a serial s e x u al predator and rapist. She is exercising her first amendment right by discussing it…..occasionally. Whether you ignore her, or follow her, nothing will change. How many people read this thread? Ten? If you are truly concerned about hate, why not focus on white supremacists or people who are truly spreading a message of hate.

          • KillerKoala

            A person who takes their beliefs into actions of hate and harassment is not exercising her first amendment rights. She’s simply choosing to ignore the last 3 years of actions and pretending they didn’t happen. That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. She’s pretending that its just a discussion. This is her false narrative because she can’t own up to her own actions. She lacks the ability to take ownership and responsibility over her hate and harassment.

          • Oxy

            What actions of hate and harassment has she taken?
            She doesn’t take “ownership” of it because it never happened.
            It’s all in your imagination.
            You are the one who put the bee in your own bonnet.
            Relax. Nothing to see here. Move along.

          • KillerKoala

            You are delusional. She has been seeking out things associated with Cosby and attacks them – TV shows, radio broadcasts, sponsors of Cosby’s shows, etc. and tries to sabotage them. She pretends as if this never happened. The proof is why she is here to begin with.

          • Oxy

            Sabotage, lol? Attacks? Does she dress up in camouflage with her military husband and go lurking around the corporate headquarters of the “sponsors” with hand grenades at night?
            I don’t believe she pretends that she has not called or written them. I think she openly posted it.
            So? That is her right. Nothing you can do about it.

          • KillerKoala

            Cute. She doesn’t have rights to harass those who support Cosby. There is no right written anywhere that says she has the right to harass people. Free speech is limited.

          • Oxy

            Free speech is not limited, unless it is something like deliberately yelling “Fire” in a crowded space when there is not one. Freedom of speech is a right here. Jessie is not harassing anyone. Again, if she bothers you so much, stay away from her.

          • KillerKoala

            She’s the one that needs to stay away. Again, lost concept on you. I’ll use my freedom of speech to stay connected with her if she continues as is. Again, her choice to continue her hate speech when she has been given the opportunity time and time again to cease.

          • Oxy

            “Hate speech”, lol!

          • KillerKoala

            Thanks for coming out Mr. Hate speech.

          • Jessie

            And let’s be clear, by “hate speech” you’re referring to me commenting on the rapey rape rapist ways of Cosby. On an article that invites such discussion. I dunno killerkoala, you may be getting all worked up over nothing. As you’ve noted and complained about, I rarely post about the dude, I don’t “hate” Cosby, I’m just pleased he’s where he is circumstances wise. That’s it. A few letters, a few phone calls, meh, my part is done. I don’t have him on my radio, he’ll never again perform in a state near me. Sure he lives blocks away from a relative I frequently visit, but who cares, he’s not chopping down trees, he’s not changing the landscape, he’s a responsible land owner and that’s all that matters as far as where he lives. If he was the kind of rapist to go door to door looking for victims it’d be another discussion. But that’s not his thing. He seems to be finished in the whole rapey field.

            Does that bother you?

          • KillerKoala

            Hate speech also refers to actions done to attack someone without proof of guilt. It’s illegal as I have mentioned against human rights. You have no morals, you have no set of rules, and you think everything falls under Free Speech.

          • Jessie

            You don’t understand the term. You’re yelling “bomb” in an airport.

            I believe Cosby’s a rapist. Period. He raped. Done. Maybe he’ll be found guilty, maybe he won’t, who cares, I certainly don’t, I’m cool with where things are. If he ever performs again maybe I’ll protest, but that’s a big what if and there’s more pressing issues in the world. How about making the world a better place for our children? How about focusing on that instead of harassing me?

          • KillerKoala

            I’m trying to make the world a better place by removing a-holes who spread hate and harassment. You just don’t get it. You don’t take NO for an answer. You continue as is. If he’s done, why aren’t you??? You and I both know you can’t drop it because it’s far from over. You’re scared he’ll be free.

          • Jessie
          • Jessie

            Yes I have written letters and even made phone calls back when there was reason to do so. I even let seriusxm know I was cancelling my subscription solely based on the fact that I frequently listened to their “radio friendly” comedy LaughUSA channel when driving, only to hear a rapest (sic) pop up unexpectedly. It’s not like I didn’t pay my bill or anything horrible like that, I cancelled my subscription, politely told the CSR why, and then I got a call back a couple months later saying he was no longer being aired and would I like to come back? Sure! Sign me up! That’s simply how consumer driven services work. It’s hardly sabotage or harassment.

          • Oxy

            Good for you! Keep up the good harass–er, I mean work!
            (That was a joke, Adumb.)

          • Jessie

            Well there’s not much left to do. It’s kind of all done. Meh.

          • Jessie

            I hope he gets called out by disqus for abusing their reporting system! He feels that the odd time I comment on Cosby I’m harassing the dude.

          • KillerKoala

            I hope you get a brain one day and hope you learn what the words “Stop spamming Cosby boards” means. Why is it that you can’t leave a Cosby forum alone??

          • Oxy

            Where are you?
            I love your new avatar and “biography”, but this “private” stuff is for the birds.
            Come Back Little Sheba!

          • Jessie

            I hope I can soon, I can’t stand being on private! I don’t know how he has so much free time to spend on me, but not only does he attempt to follow me a minimum of 60 times in a day, the guy has literally gone into my history and marked every one of my posts as spam, multiple times. I still have a bunch that haven’t been released yet (my commenting on the much too early passing of Tom Petty seems to have been his tipping point). He’s even reported me for abuse! Apparently he doesn’t agree with the very clear definition of what spam is, he thinks it should include any post he doesn’t agree with. The squeaky wheel gets some grease I guess. I’m hoping I don’t have to stay private for too long and that he can no longer target me the way he is.

          • Oxy

            Wait…so you went on private so that Adumb won’t mark your posts?
            He told me he was marking mine, lol!
            I had no idea he was so petty. I thought he was just some big, nice, dumb guy.
            He actually believes you are harming Cosby, lol! If only we had such power!
            We are the least of Cosby’s problems.

          • Jessie

            I wouldn’t care except that he’s impacting my disqus experience. He was able to bully his way into preventing you from getting my super clever and awesome posts. Seriously, there’s still posts to you that are awaiting moderation. They’re probably all about bumper dumpers. How embarrassing to get an email about that? Thanks Adumb!

          • Oxy

            An email from Disqus about bumper dumpers, lol!
            So wait…the little wrestler with the giant head is preventing me from getting my bumper dumper posts?!?
            Better back off while you still can, Adumb……

          • Jessie

            Yes Oxy, the bumper dumper stumper has figured out a way to silence my brilliant posts. I know right??!!! So weird!! If he flags enough (targets) he can force a post to be put in an a review que, and it takes days for the hourly paid folks who have better things to do to review his stupid complaint. He’s doing it to alll if my posts. You aren’t able to see half my replies because he’s currently objecting. You might not even see this one! Don’t like it? Complain. It’s the only recourse.

          • Oxy

            Who do I complain to? How do I do it?
            What he is doing is harassment , because your posts are not SPAM.
            I don’t believe anyone is actually reading your posts. I don’t believe they pay hourly people to read posts.
            Disqus is headquartered in downtown San Francisco. I will be visiting SF in November. Seymour is attending a conference and our hotel is near their office. I’m not good on the phone, but a visit from someone as charismatic as Oxy, lol, might get some results.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Already sent a complaint to disqus. To his wife and whoever else might reign the porno guy in, next.

          • Passing Through

            I hope he reads this.

          • Oxy

            How do I send a complaint to Disqus?

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            I emailed rolling out, the author of this article because it’s this article that KK is able to flag. But here https://help.disqus.com/ at the bottom of the page are a few support people that you can contact. I prefer to tattle on Adam to his wife, and if he continues to harass Jessie, might make the lazy azz’s bosses know that he is harassing people on their dime.

          • Oxy

            I’m not going anywhere near ADumb’s wife. The poor woman has enough problems.
            We are supposed to contact the site’s moderator. But who is that? And how do we contact them? Personal email?

          • Passing Through

            Take No Prisoners. Lol Party is at your place.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Adumb is a little worriesome with his, off the grid, posting. He is taking the Cosby stuff personal. Hope he gets some professional help. If you see something, say something. I might need to say something for our own safety. He appears to be losing it, going rogue for bc. stupid arse.

          • Passing Through

            I’m leaving tomorrow for a while. Look after Dumb a$$ Killer for us. He’s gone beyond logic, even for him. he must have personal issues to be so antagonistic.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Ok. PT. Stay safe will be gald when you return! <3

          • Jessie

            I missed this!! Yet another reason why I like open histories!!

            Yes, what he’s doing is now harassment. And it’s taking several minutes out of my day to deal with it. At first I reached out to lawnewz, director of marketing or something who passed my comment down the ladder, but then I realized I was being marked as spam on multiple sites, which clued me in to it being a disqus problem. I already had an open “case number” because I was trying to get them to help me figure out how to get get the dude to stop following me without having to hit “x” every five minutes, so when my comments started disappearing as a result of being marked as spam I just used the email address they had used to get back to me on the first issue. I don’t know if it’ll be successful. Higher than normal call volumes and such. Lol. No trubbs I said today, take as long as you need, in the meantime I’ll be reaching out to your customers (individual sites) to see if they can help stop this harassment that’s happening as a result of your system.

          • Oxy

            Did you get my post about “Survivor”?

          • Jessie

            Yes and I chatted about Survivor, that must me one of my pending posts! Don’t like the redhead. He’s annoying but more importantly his word is no good. That’s the nutshell. Hope this makes it to you!

          • Oxy

            Yes, but I answered that one with a new one.

          • Jessie

            Oh dear, I’m all discombobulated by that really pretty smile, it’s very distracting, I’m all thumbs, hang on, I’m gonna find whatever it is we’re talking about and I’ll get back on track cutie pie pretty smiler!

          • Jessie

            I forgot to say that an Oxy smile could probably open any door! I could be guarding Fort Knox and if you flashed me that smile I’d probably lead you to the safe!

          • Oxy

            Awwww….
            I am so sorry you are going through this BS with Adumb.
            What I have done to cheer you up is post a temporary avatar of ONLY my smile, encouraging you to stay positive and tough.
            This issue will get resolved.
            Ash is using some strong armed tactics that have me a little concerned, but who knows? Could work….
            Can’t go after our Queen without repercussions.

          • Jessie

            Oh my goodness I really like your smile!!! Without a doubt you have the best smile ever. I just look at it and then I’m smiling without realizing I’m doing it. I’d love to be sitting beside you.

          • Oxy

            I am sitting beside you, holding your hand, and we will get through this Dumb thing.

          • Jessie

            And I’m probably hugging you and kissing your super cute cheek while we get through this! Boy oh boy I like your smile Oxy! I don’t want to be creepy but that mug is totally infectious. I see it, I smile, sue me!

          • Jessie

            Your original post no longer exists because of Adumb, but I absolutely think you have awesome skin! Look at that mug!! Come on! So pretty! Who doesn’t have crazy pores after puberty? You’re beautiful. And if you’re looking for good products I can tell you the Reversa line out of Montreal is fabulous, and luminous air (lol!!!! Total infomercial) is great! I got my first bout of acne at 24. Seriously, I was pretty much perfect until then!!! Hahaha! I don’t think it was food related, my dermatologist told me it was hormonal, I could go on the pill. Which I did for two months but then I was all “what’s up with my clothes no longer fitting?!” Anyway, I just let nature and Proactive take its course after that.

            I wonder how many comments the dude was able to have removed. I know you talked about your skin, I’m pretty certain you did, but I can’t find that comment now anywhere.

          • Oxy

            I removed it because I thought it was in poor taste.
            I went to Sephora and spent a ridiculous amount of money on some Bare Minerals powder and a brush. This was because the salesgirl spent so much time with me, I would have felt bad not buying anything. She sent me home with some minuscule free samples of foundation and a cleanser. Then I did an experiment. Their extremely expensive foundation was no better than a $6 bottle of Maybelline Dream Liquid Mousse.

          • Jessie

            So interesting, this is 18 hours old and I’m seeing it for the first time. Or I’m responding to it a seventh time and don’t remember the previous six. Either or. First, I’ll start off by saying you are absolutely beautiful. I might have said that before. “A thousand times”. Anyway. Super pretty. I used to like makeup because it accentuated things, like my lovely eyes and cheekbones hahaha! Now I’m all “make this and that less noticeable!” I mostly wear moisturizer now, but on special occasions I break open the air brush and become an artist. A couple of drops, way less than what fingertips need, and me and my horrible pores are concealed. The key though and I can’t stress this enough, is fat puffy skin. Reversa products and Udo’s oil. I’ll probably never look as lovely as you, you’re pretty gorgeous, but I know how to sort of get there.

          • Oxy

            What “fat puffy skin” are you “stressing”?
            And what is it “the key” to?

          • Jessie

            Fat puffy skin that you want makeup to sit prettily on. Well hydrated skin is fat and puffy. Like my butt that I think you should kiss!!! Lol, I’m only sort of kidding, you’re like my nephew right now with all the questions! Love him dearly but omg, I sometimes wish he was more like his brother and used his mouth exclusively to make fart noises!

          • Oxy

            Would there be cable tv, a reading chair, a desk and an alarm clock in my room?

          • Jessie

            No if you’re on the upper floor. The TV is would be in the “rec room”, beside your bedroom, you’d have access to an alarm clock though, it’s right there on the nightstand table, what kind if freak’n reading chair do you need for reading ?? Yes there’s a chair, but there’s a sunroom you might prefer. No TV in the guest rooms is what I’m attempting to say.

          • Oxy

            I’m afraid I got a little spoiled after my stay at Sally Lago. Is you house at a popular location?
            Just to clarify: I’d be sharing a bathroom with Ash and two men, PT and Storm?

          • Jessie

            Gosh you’re complicated! I’m not sure how people divy up the bathrooms lol. There’s three bedrooms upstairs and one bathroom. There’s one spare room down here and one bathroom that doubles as the place where all of us (JW and I included) pee and poo during the day. Our bathroom is out of sight, you’d have to go through our bedroom to get to it. I put people’s towels in their bedrooms, I have hotel like accessories in each bath, and that’s about all the thought I’d give. If you and Ash were to stay upstairs with PT and Storm, you could take your towels and shower down here in the morning if you like, I don’t care. Or I could set up the “sun shower” in the backyard if you’re being trouble!!

            Yes, this is a popular location. During the balloon festival. I’d like to see you try and get a hotel room during that!

          • Oxy

            I’m just giving you shiot, you know that, lol.
            Seriously, you are extremely generous to open your home to imaginary people.
            And it’s not impossible that I would sleep there. If I became intoxicated from taking gulps of wine to get down the moose meatloaf, for example.
            But familiarity breeds contempt and Oxy needs to maintain her sense of mystery.
            How do you think Seymour and I have managed to stay married so long? Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
            Do you are a Marriott Residence Inn near your town?
            I couldn’t reveal the name of my hotel when I was in So Cal with my mom last March, but that was it, and I grew to love the place. Not because of the free hot breakfast. That is nothing special. No, it is because of their complimentary 3 evenings a week Happy Hour with complimentary wine, beer and hors d’oeuvres. The wine is nothing to write home about–I won’t drink bad wine, but the beer is good! It’s in a keg and they had an IPA and a regular beer and the regular beer was good quality. Stella Artois, I believe. And the rooms! Every room is a suite, with a full kitchen–stove, microwave, big fridge. So you guys could come over for Happy Hour at “my” place, and then I could have steaming globe artichokes waiting, and we could have an artichoke party.

          • Jessie

            Lol, I know you’re giving me pretend shiot, what would I expect a pretend friend to do?! I would actually very much like my Oxy and Ash and PT and Storm to stay over for a party. I’m a rather awesome hostess when it comes to bedding and towels and toiletries. I suck at the meals part. Lol. JW has me covered for the breakfast bit, everything else though we’d be eating out or ordering in. You’d have ironed sheets and a super clean bath but it’s possible you’d starve while enjoying the luxury.

            We’re Hilton diamond members. When we can, except for backwoods places in Utah and Nevada, we stay at those hotels. The bagged breakfast is nice when you’re working, if for nothing else but the bottled water. But when I got married in Chicago they went over the top, they weren’t asked to or expected to but they treated me and mine like royalty. My mom was so impressed lol, she thought JW bought everyone a suite. Nope. Diamond status and the key phrase “I’m getting married!!” We only paid 99 bucks a night for each of those rooms!!!! No one will ever know, they totally expected it cost us thousands, but nope, hundreds. My chain of choice. Don’t get me started on the Waldorfs. Oh em gee my mom loved that.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Is he still doing it Jessie?

          • Jessie

            Doesn’t look like it, but this may be a rare morning where he gives a few secs to his kids.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Eww. I was using my voice reader. lol

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            I’m sure he is lurking.

          • Jessie

            Yep. Lurking and reporting.

          • Passing Through

            Are you obeying Adumb?

          • Jessie

            I’d like to say no, but the only reason I’m in the private setting, which is totally not where I’d prefer to be, is because this guy is hard core targeting me. He’s marking my posts as spam even though they don’t meet the criteria, he’s calling things harassment that clearly don’t meet the definition of “harassment”, all while he’s fervently trying to follow me. End result is that his tenacity gets me flagged until a live person can look at this silliness. Dude has totally added several extra minutes to my “to do” list for the week and frankly I’m a little resentful! So no, I’m not obeying the guy, but until disqus researches this and gets back to me, Adumb may very well be calling the shots.

          • Passing Through

            What happens when you’re supposedly flagged?
            You haven’t spammed. That’s repetitive posting of same comment?
            Harassment? You haven’t harassed Killer. It’s the other way around.
            What a little jerk!!

          • Jessie

            It’s a total pain in the backside PT, that’s what happens! So some dude who doesn’t know or care what the definition of spam is relentlessly marks your posts as spam because he’s looking to make you shut up and maybe he’s mad that you went on private and he can no longer follow you, who knows, he’s ticked at something and he’s not gonna take it anymore. So he spends days going through your history, reports everything you post as spam and that eventually triggers a system “hold” because of how many times the dude highlighted your username as fake (spam). So your posts are placed on hold, none of them actually get posted, and you don’t see that unless you go into your own history and see the “detected as spam, we’re working to rectify this” message. So anything I posted in like a 12 hour time frame yesterday, never made it to anyone because this dude through his diligence and obsessive compulsion to abuse rules and harass users forced others into that cue.

            So to your question of “what happens”? the answer is a lot of extra time I’d rather not be spending. Dude found a loophole though, flag someone 50 times in one day (even if it’s seven flags to one post), and you can silence them for 12 hours even if they’ve never violated a thing.

          • Passing Through

            Take the time to reflect on where you went wrong in life, Jessie!! Lol
            You get to spend more time with Fred and JW.
            Have you posted bail or a performance bond. JK

            I hope they straighten it out and kick him off disqus for false harassment reporting.

          • Jessie

            When I first started reaching out to them to figure out a way to keep him from following me without either having to remove him a hundred times a day or going private I was very clear in stating I recognized he wasn’t breaking any rules, I wasn’t asking for him to be removed from the platform, I simply wanted to be public and not have to monitor my list for his presence. I’m afraid his behaviour now falls under harassment, he’s targeting me and absolutely is impacting my disqus experience. Half my comments to you folks today have been removed pending review even though they’ve all been responded to. If there’s no safeguards against a user impacting another by simply hitting spam and harassment over and over and over then yes, the best option is to remove the abuser. His behaviour costs them time and money too, they should have an interest in stopping him from using their resources when they’ve so clearly outlined what spamming or harassment is. Long story short lol, yep, if they can’t stop him from targeting me and ruining my communication with the board then yes, to the curb!

            JW is hunting up north. I really hope he’s again unsuccessful. I know I eat chicken that’s been wrapped on styrofoam and that’s not as natural and free range as bagging a partridge but oh well I have faults and if I’m going to eat a bird for whatever reason I like it to come from a farm that raises them to be killed and allotted to a grocery store. I might be a horrible person. Anyway, point is I have a lot of free time this weekend and the stalker dude pushing my comments into pending is totally impacting my experience.

          • Passing Through

            He’s always seemed like your meek and mild unassuming type guy. Kind of unimaginative! Lives his bravado existence through fake wrestling.
            Totally a nutter starting a petition. From there he’s trying to dictate the rules of web behaviour on an eight month old article? He’s gone from simmering to boiling point like some wanna be story book avenger.

            Target him back…his history is open. Dump your account and start a new name under private. He should be working instead his employer is unaware of his work performance.

          • Oxy

            She’s invited to my party.

          • KillerKoala

            You’re not invited either. Party somewhere else.

          • Oxy

            The go to your party and leave us alone.

          • KillerKoala

            You crashed a party you weren’t invited to – this is the point of the discussion. You have your own party to attend to on Facebook. Go there.

          • Oxy

            How am I crashing a party if I don’t seek any of you out? I leave you alone. You are the one lurking about, peeking in the windows at our party. Creepy.

          • KillerKoala

            You are posting on a Cosby article posting derogatory comments, are you not? Then you seek comments in return. Nobody invited you to the Cosby article. Therefore you are crashing the party.

          • Oxy

            I first came on here over 2 years ago. No need to be invited. It’s an open forum.
            At that time, and for a long time, I talked almost exclusively about Cosby. There is not much more I have to say about him at this time. Nothing that has not already been said. I get tired of the constant repetition on here. Pointless. Groundhog day.
            I don’t seek comments from Duhfenders. If none of you ever spoke another word to me, I would be happy.
            A pariah like Cosby will always attract what you consider “derogatory” comments.
            It is you who should start a FB fan page praising Cosby and limiting who can post on it, as it seems you can neither tolerate
            “derogatory” comments about Cosby or chatty comments that have nothing to do with Cosby.

          • KillerKoala

            Forums are designed to discuss the topic at hand. This isn’t your personal site to discuss your outside activities. You clearly don’t respect the rules of this forum. Everything for you is a right because you don’t know any better. If you nothing to say about Cosby, please leave. If you stay, please note your continued harassment is noted and will be responded to.

          • Oxy

            I will be discussing the 2005 animated series, “House of Cosbys” on here soon.

          • KillerKoala

            Bull. Get out while you can. Stop trying to be really annoying.

          • Oxy

            Stop getting annoyed about nothing.
            “Get out while you can”–LOL!

          • KillerKoala

            Reported for Spam. Learn what rules are.

          • Oxy

            Call the FBI.

          • KillerKoala

            Send me your address, I’ll send them over.

          • Oxy

            Oxy DiNicolantonio
            623 East 68th Street
            New York, NY 10069

          • Passing Through

            “House of Cosbys” may be something you and Cosby don’t like but it had significant social value as Bill’s attempts to control!! You need to learn rules. You have not only been incredibly stupid in your earlier years but have now become increasingly aggressive towards the values of posting.
            You need to disappear and settle down.

          • KillerKoala

            Attempts to control what? It was a series based on him that used without his permission. He has a right to control that. And please don’t preach about rules, you are the one crashing every Cosby article. Not the other way around. You need to learn when you are not invited.

          • Passing Through

            I’m seldom on different Cosby articles. In fact I speak very little on actual Cosby issues. I don’t wait for or need your invite, A-hola.
            There will be a backlash against you for trying to dictate parameters .
            Now eff off you two bit leotard wearing maggot!!

          • KillerKoala

            A-hole, you don’t dictate parameters. This is a public forum, if you don’t like it then leave. We’ve had enough of your hate. Bring it back to your Facebook group. You have a “Solidarity march” (i.e. a hate march) coming up you need to prepare for. So all of your a-hole friends can show your true colors.

          • Passing Through

            It’s quite evident as to you dictating parameters. House of Cosby is relevant to another aspect of Bill trying to control. Just like you.
            I don’t belong to any FB, I don’t have stupid petitions going, like you.
            Grow up, Adam!!!!

          • KillerKoala

            You don’t get it! House of Cosbys is just like you and your friends – trying to control someone you have no permission to do so! He simply took his life and his likeness back. Learn from House of Cosbys and cease!

          • Passing Through

            House of Cosby’s wasn’t trying to control anything? They simply put a lampoon on and Cosby in his usual controlling way, objected. Just like you do if things don’t fit your narrative.
            You should learn. Cosby is ruined, totalled. Only thing left is whether he gets another hung, not acquittal. Accept and move on.

          • KillerKoala

            Right, and what happens if the Cosby narrative doesn’t fit yours? You change it so it does. Your obsessed and can’t move on because you know it’s not done. It’s you that needs to move on but you know you can’t. You’re too scared it’s not over and Cosby goes free. Get over it!

          • Passing Through

            Hey Idiot…Cosby has always been free as you keep bringing up.
            Probably another hung as we predicted. It won’t bring back his social status…He’s gone!! Seclusion, social pariah!! Get over it!!

          • KillerKoala

            Out on bail is not free. People attacking his family, friends, associations, etc. is not being free. When he’s acquitted, he’ll be free of all you a-holes! Get out while you can if you are so over it!

          • Passing Through

            Didn’t change anything? I didn’t produce the show. You need to quit with trying to suppress others opinions with whining and lying to moderators. What a wimp!!

          • KillerKoala

            I’m not talking about the show. I’m talking about you and your cronies trying to change Cosby’s narrative. I’ll suppress you all day and all night. Don’t like it, then leave!

          • Passing Through

            What is Cosby’ s narrative dimwit. At best,a miserable cheating; lying husband whose comic behaviour and pompous attitude sucked.
            At worst he is a washed up has been pathetic serial predator with numerous trials facing his future.
            You can leave if you don’t like things.
            Coward

          • KillerKoala

            Like I said, that’s your narrative and you’re sticking around to make sure it sticks. You are one bonafide A-hole. You can leave anytime.

          • Jessie

            Yep. But he’s actually winning right now. Days and days of comments of mine are pending human paid eyes because this guy targeted me enough. Psycho wins right now because of software parameters. I’m flipp’n livid, but because I’m not a psycho, I have to wait days for this poop to be fixed.

          • Oxy

            “leotard wearing”!
            LOL!

          • Passing Through

            They’re cutting off his oxygen.

          • Jessie

            Your post to me has been removed!

            So I’m posting my response here.

            Master batting!!! Hahahaha!!!!! I truly laughed out loud at that, Fred lifted his head to look at me (irritation written all over his face, sorry Fred!). I doubt I’ll ever see Probst again, my invite to that gathering was work and location related. But TP DID come up!! As did periods! And several oral hygiene questions. Not by me, I was too cool for school lol. They use leaves. No TP. I already knew that answer but I was interested in the no trace part (do you dig up their poo and carry it out at the end of filming? Yes.) As for periods, medications aren’t allowed so you can’t use the pill to stop it, pretty much every gal gets a shot beforehand to stop the cycle. That’s not fail safe though, so if you start bleeding you pack your undies with leaves and lichen. No tampons or pads on Survivor. Toothbrushes are the most commonly asked for luxury item. I think they’re allowed now. But mostly they use sticks to get plaque off their teeth. As for master batting, hahahaha! Oh! Sorry Fred! He’s getting annoyed! I’ll giggle more quietly! That never “came up”. I imagine you just do it when you need to and where you can. Hahaha! Snort laugh! Go in the other room if I’m bugging you that much Fred!! Oxy asked a… he’s gone now, I’m free to snicker. What a cranky goofball. I don’t really know about the master batting lol. When JW comes home today (can’t hunt on Sundays in Maine), I’ll ask him too. I suspect it’s a desire more than a need but who knows, I never thought about it! Where do the master batters go to get their master batting on? Hahahaha!!

          • Oxy

            I think it’s a need with the young men, and being around a lot of shapely girls in bikinis probably makes it hard. (pun intended)
            I don’t believe they dig up their “poo” and carry it away. Whose job would it be to do that, and how would they know where to find it? They probably don’t go very often because they aren’t eating much, and what they eat–white rice–is constipating. I bet they get explosive diarrhea after some of the food rewards though.
            I don’t know why they would be allowed toothbrushes if they can’t have tp. You can brush your teeth with salt water and sand. It would drive me nuts not to floss. I might try to sneak in a long single strand of floss and floss my teeth while I was squatting over a hole pretending I had to go.

          • Jessie

            Did I respond to this?! I feel like I just found this! If I already responded please ignore me, I’m either gonna say the same thing or go on a totally new tangent!

            They do dig up poo. I know this because I hike in places that require you to carry your poo and I was super interested in that kind of logistics. They have agreements with governments and more often than not there’s a zero impact type clause and a crew stays there after filming to make it like they were never there and yep, part of that involves digging up poo. These are the things I asked Probst. Lol. There’s designated poo spots. You can’t prevent folks from pooping all willy nilly, but in the spots you’ve agreed to designate as poo sites the show absolutely has to dig that up as a hazardous waste and get rid of it. I asked. Lol. I was very concerned about the poo.

          • Oxy

            I’m not sure I would want to use the designated spot. Don’t you imagine that there would be big flies buzzing around?
            So they must have a shovel there, right? Surely you are not expected to dig with your hands? What prevents people from taking the shovel and using it back at camp for stuff? Does it have a big chain on it like a bathroom key at the gas station?
            If they have a zero impact clause how come when the final survivors leave they are allowed to torch the place,
            I have many questions about many things. If I’d been at that picnic, Probst would have pulled you aside and told you to keep Oxy away from him.
            When told about the designated spot in orientation, were they not told not to use the Ocean for Numero Dos? Did Useless Gal not get the memo? Was she in the restroom when it was discussed? If I were on the show, I would be talking about Useless Gal’s ocean dump in my private on camera interview.

          • Jessie

            Holy crap. Lol.

            Do you not go hiking and camping or something? Is pooping in the woods new to you? Sticks can dig holes. Oh my gosh, you’re totally the gal who can’t figure it out so goes in the water. I’m sorry Oxy, as much as I like you, and I really really like you, I’m afraid I’ll be voting you off first.

            My bro and I got this book in our stockings at Christmas back in the 80s when Santa still signed things in my mom’s handwriting. Go purchase it and then we can talk. Unbelievable. https://books.google.com/books/about/How_to_Shit_in_the_Woods.html?id=c6sYWYvsBUEC&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button

          • Oxy

            I want to be voted off first. I want to go to Ponderosa. That being said, rest assured, I would never, ever poop in the water. I’ve never even peed in a swimming pool.
            I grew up in a Kennedyesque family, and these things were not talked about. We were busy talking about current events. I went to camp when I was an adolescent and there were some camping trips, but it was never discussed. We just went off into the woods with a roll of toilet paper.
            I do hike occasionally, but as I only poop once a day in the morning, it has never been an issue.
            I am going to buy this book and read it though. I really want to talk books with your mom.

          • keke

            Look at PT getting tough
            (Grunt)

          • Kathy Harrington

            Two of the rules are:

            The following are not allowed anywhere on Disqus:

            Targeted harassment or encouraging others to do so
            Hate speech and other forms of targeted and systematic harassment of people have no place on Disqus, nor do we tolerate communities dedicated to fostering harassing behavior.

            Spam
            Examples include 1) comments posted in large quantities to promote a product or service, 2) the exact same comment posted repeatedly to disrupt a thread. 3) following users multiple times.

            It seems that you are guilty of spamming and harassment. Please stop.

          • Storm Junkie

            The “House of Cosby’s” is quite entertaining Adam. You might want to watch it. Here I’ll help you,http://www.channel101.com/show/148
            It’s better than fake wrestling and it’s all about Cosby’s and lots of them so you don’t have to worry about being off topic.

          • Passing Through

            I had you down as #10,,, country man Cosby.

          • Jessie

            I watched it. Not my cup of tea although I like it was 12 years old and incredibly gutsy!

          • Oxy

            Cosby had a very annoying unique way of speech that he found charming and endearing. Cosby was/is truly enamored with himself.
            This show–at least episode one–perfectly captures his annoying way of talking.
            It is more than gutsy. It is very original.

          • Jessie

            Original yes, and I’m cool with the show existing, nothing wrong with it, I just don’t personally get more than a smirk, but I’m glad it exists and dates back to Constand.

          • Oxy

            I’m happy with a smirk.
            And not being bored. (So many popular culture things bore me.)
            And being impressed with originality/ creativity.
            Will we discussing “Survivor” soon?

          • Jessie

            I’m not sure if this comment will make it to you because the one you responded to is now pending review and removed, but YES!!! I hope we can discuss Survivor soon! It’s so early it’s tough to have an opinion, but…. I’m full of them lol! I don’t think anything can beat last season for me, “game changers” was a HUGE success in terms of entertaining me, but so far I’ve stayed awake for the first two shows this season so that’s a really good sign. Want the redhead gone though. He bugs me. But strategy, I guess he’s better than the useless gal?

          • Oxy

            Yes, the Redhead is better than the “useless” gal, also known as “Simone”. (Seymour dubbed her “shape the narrative” because she said it a lot). Useless Gal pissed me off when she came back to camp and announced that she had taken a dump in the ocean! Is that what they typically do on that show? And then they go catch some fish, while dodging each others’ floating turds? No, she had to go. (pun intended)
            Other Oxy observations:
            I don’t think Black Guy is playing a very smart game.
            I guess I like “older mom” , the one who now has a useless idol that she is going to try and pass off as a good one somehow. I am glad she has teamed up with the Cowboy Marine.
            How about the guy who couldn’t read the map, and thought the idol was hidden in the Ocean, lol?

          • Jessie

            I found this!! Lol, in your history, not mine, and I totally ignored your gorgeous smiling face to get here! It was tough but I’m a trooper! You have really nice skin too. Anyway. Survivor! Yes! I agree with all you say and I also question the whole poop in the water thing! That gal I was avoiding phoning, “Cuz”, she fosters dogs, and that’s awesome, but don’t let them go in the water before they do the business every reasonable person knows they need to do! He poops, I hold back my vomit and say “you have to pick that up”. “It’s in the lake” she says. “Yep. And you and I go swimming in the lake so get your dog’s poo out of the lake and start paying attention to him after meals!!!” It’s not rocket science. I have no tolerance for that. I actually started an ordinance that I had to back out of, no pets in the water, but she’s the only masshole who doesn’t pay attention to what she’s caring for. Maybe you don’t mind swimming in poo ‘Cuz, but all of us do! If you’re gonna foster a dog WALK IT!! And if you’re on Survivor, poo in a hole in the woods like everyone else!!! No tolerance for that, none.

          • Oxy

            Truth be told, I don’t have great skin, never have.
            As a teen and young adult I had acne (odd that I never see kids with acne anymore… “They” must have come up with some sort of cure for pimples?) Not super bad acne, but enough to make me self-conscious.
            In retrospect, I attribute the acne to my fussy eating/bad diet,
            That acne may have kept my skin oily, younger looking–I do look younger than my years– but I have “large pores”, esp on my nose. Not craters, but enough that whenever I have to get dressed up I put on foundation + powder. As long as you guys stay 5/6 feet from me, my skin looks fine. My skin used to be my biggest beauty concern. Now, I don’t really care. My current beauty concern is my “turkey neck.”
            I wonder if they are given toilet paper on Survivor?
            That is something you might want to ask Probst, although I doubt he will reveal.
            I could do the ground squatting, butt exposed to mosquitos, but what if you chose some leaves to wipe with that were irritating to the skin?
            I imagine they are provided with TP, as well as tampax/pads, stuff like that.
            And then what about all the young guys who are used to master batting at least 1X per day? Are they able to just give that up, and what effect does it have on them?
            Or do they disappear deep into nature, and then everyone imagines they are searching for the idol? Or maybe they do it in the Ocean?
            I’m going to ask Seymour what he thinks they do.

          • Storm Junkie

            Everyone’s trash talking Cosby everywhere.

          • KillerKoala

            Welcome back to your billionth account. Grandkids visiting? Had to delete the trash you were talking?

          • Storm Junkie

            Is there a problem with cleaning the slate and starting over? I thought you would be happy that I was getting rid of all the Cosby is a rapist comments.

          • KillerKoala

            Is there a problem with your comments? I can see why someone might start over if they didn’t want people to really see who they really are. Are you ashamed of your posts?

          • Storm Junkie

            It’s Friday morning. Why aren’t you working?

          • Passing Through

            His and hers matching robes, a paper at the door in the morning, the bed turned down at night with complimentary chocolates. Sally is a marvelous host.

          • Sally

            Here’a to blowing you mind. The on qet guest towols the ge of the amenities of toiletries, cable TV, a reading chair, book, alarm clock and desk. It’s lose things that someone a good hosts.

          • Sally

            There you go invoking my name. LOL! There you go listening to a know nothing internet studsnt troubled bounderyless woman.

            Turnabout is fair play oxy. You get what you shovel out. You’re small people who are narcissists that believe you know better than the experts.

          • Sally

            So you agree with oxy that you’re the queen of shill mountain and that you owe her? It’s not a compliment.

          • Oxy

            LOL!

          • Sally

            She’s got some splaining to do too.

            Re: Edmonton Canadian Terrorist Attack
            Canada has only itself to blame because of their history of imperialistic behavior in the ME, Asia and Africa, wait, what? Well that is what people say when the U.S or U.K. are attacked so it must be true in Canada as well. I have no doubt trump is saying that’s what stupid Canadians get when they accept refugees.

            How did Canadians not see the refugee terrorist coming with an ISIS flag on his car and;

            where the heck does a terrorist purchase an ISIS flag in Canada, Walmart?

          • Oxy

            ?????

          • Sally

            You’re behind on the news and Canadian attitudes about Americans.

          • Oxy

            I’m on top of the news, and we have far more serious things to worry about than Canadian attitudes about Americans.

          • Sally

            No, you’re not on top of the news much less understand the importance of it. Canadian’s attitudes matter because they’re over our border wherein there was a terrorist attack under the ISIS flag. The ability for refugees to have ISIS flags across the our borders must be confronted. Canadian attitudes are so important that we are there now working on the matter.

          • Jessie

            What an odd “look over there” given what just happened in Vegas. I’d like to know of any country that hasn’t faced something nationally heartbreaking. I’m all for discussing other things in times like this, but “which country has worse crazies” is a bit desperate!

          • Passing Through

            Sally didn’t know about Las Vegas when he posted this crap. Now, he’s having his usual meal of crow. LOL
            I received three posts in a row for my short repose to his original BS.

          • Jessie

            Yeah I’ve been getting quite a few too, none too pleased with who I choose to associate with or the way we joke with each other. Oh well, he doesn’t have to join in if he doesn’t like it!

          • Passing Through

            Sally is a relentless nut case. Seven posts to two of mine and the guy doesn’t get that I don’t give an eff what he has to say. You don’t actually want him to join in do you. See him dissing Storm and his parents and their lives.

          • Jessie

            He’s tipping at windmills, needs conflict for some reason. Probably can’t fight his real demons (neurological problem like he mentioned before? Early Alzheimer’s?) so he creates a crazy stage for his pretend drama. Even when he’s trying to be kind it’s conditional upon him having control. Weird.

          • Sally

            You ingrate queen of shills. I’m not the one who tried to control you. She’ll give you more after you forget dimwit. I need conflict. Explain why you got involved in other people’s conflict while I’m only interested in the legal aspects.

            What you are is confronted ahola.

          • Jessie

            Thats Queen of THE Shills Sally.

            “… only interested in the legal aspects.” Lol!

          • Sally

            Do I ago after his wife, no. Do I care about what he’s doing, no. Do I care about due process, yes. Do I care about fair play, yes. This isn’t a self-pity party that you, KD, Oxy PT and junkie play.

          • Sally

            You don’t get smarter by mimicking someone who isn’t smart and using what they called you. You’re not very bright.

          • Jessie

            I’ll give you that Craig isn’t very smart (sounds like you missed how this all started a couple years ago), but finding humour in someone’s attempted insult is certainly healthier getting all fibbles over it. Some people enjoy lighthearted teasing with people they like. Maybe you should avoid reading us if you don’t?

          • Sally

            Maybe you should leave the newsvine and find a more suitable place for your garbage. What’ you post reveals somethine about yourself and people go beyond that by bullhorn your person business to the public.

            Where I come from it’s the norm. The lifestyle is chosen. Only people like yourselves would think, in your works, something to “tease about”. The only people who do that are those that don’t know or have experience in different chosen lifestyles.

            Therefore, I laugh at your ignorance.

          • Oxy

            I think it’s Queen of Shill Mountain.

          • Sally

            I posted it before Las Vegas dumarse. Improve your reading comprehension For over have a century you Canadians have accused American’s of causing terrorism against us; blaming the victim. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander mother-f-er.

            “UPDATED
            Edmonton attack suspect had ‘genocidal beliefs,’ says former co-worker who reported him to police
            ‘He had major issues with polytheists. He said they need to die’
            CBC News Posted: Oct 01, 2017 10:18 PM MT Last Updated: Oct 02, 2017 9:37 AM MT

            Heavily armed police tactical officers approaching the apartment building afternoon that was home to Abdulahi Hasan Sharif, the man CBC has identified as being the suspect in Saturday’s attacks in Edmonton.
            Heavily armed police tactical officers approaching the apartment building afternoon that was home to Abdulahi Hasan Sharif, the man CBC has identified as being the suspect in Saturday’s attacks in Edmonton. (Travis McEwan/CBC)

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            A former co-worker of the Somali refugee CBC News has identified as the man arrested in a weekend attack in Edmonton says Abdulahi Hasan Sharif was an ISIS sympathizer years before Saturday’s violent events, and that he had reported him to police.

            Terrorism charges are pending against the suspect, who is in custody. Police haven’t released Sharif’s name, but multiple sources have identified him to CBC.

            Sharif’s former co-worker, who didn’t want to be identified out of concern for his safety, said: “He would rant.

            “It was very incoherent. He would just bounce from idea to idea, tangent to tangent, just about what he believed in and he definitely had genocidal beliefs, you could say.

            “He had major issues with polytheists. He said they need to die. That sort of thing. I only had a handful of conversations with him about it; those only occurred when there were just two of us in the work room.”

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            Around 8:15 p.m. local time Saturday near Commonwealth Stadium, an Edmonton officer was struck by a Chevrolet Malibu while working crowd control for a CFL game.

            Const. Mike Chernyk, standing behind a barricade when he was hit, was sent flying into the air. A man got out of the Malibu and attacked Chernyk with a knife before fleeing on foot.

            More than three hours later, a white U-Haul van was pulled over at a checkstop on the city’s north side. A police officer recognized the driver’s name as similar to the name of the registered owner of the car that had struck the officer earlier.

            The U-Haul then sped off toward downtown Edmonton, where streets were filled with Saturday night bar crowds and football fans. Pursued by police, the van struck and injured four pedestrians.

            The van tipped over on its side and a suspect was arrested at the scene.

            The officer, who sufffered stab wounds to his head and face, has been released from hospital.

            One person who was listed in critical condition has been upgraded to stable. Two others have been released from hospital. The fourth victim suffered a fractured skull but has regained consciousness, police said.

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            The suspect remains in custody, and terror charges are pending, police said. (CBC)

            Edmonton police Chief Rod Knecht confirmed a black ISIS flag was seized from a car where the police officer was attacked.

            RCMP said Sunday a 30-year-old Somali refugee was interviewed by the Integrated National Security Enforcement Team (INSET) in 2015.

            But there was “insufficient evidence” to make an arrest and the suspect was deemed “not a threat.”

            Suspect ‘strange,’ says former co-worker

            The former co-worker said he immediately recognized Sharif’s name when it began to circulate in the news media.

            He worked with a “very strange” Sharif at a construction site in the summer of 2015, he said.

            The co-worker said Sharif would play broadcasts in Arabic while they worked at the construction site.

            When Sharif started talking to him about his hatred of Shia Muslims and support for well-known leaders of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, the co-worker decided he needed to do something, he said.

            He said he reported Sharif to Edmonton police, who passed him onto the RCMP. He was later interviewed by RCMP at K Division headquarters near downtown Edmonton, he said.

            “They definitely didn’t laugh it off … they took it very seriously and very professionally,” he said.

            Sharif kept a low profile in the city’s Somali community.

            CBC News conducted numerous interviews with members of Edmonton’s Somali and broader Muslim communities, but no one appeared to know Sharif.

            The 30-year-old’s name triggered no recognition, but Saturday’s violence was unanimously condemned.

            “This individual has no place in our community,” Ahmed (Knowmadic) Ali wrote in a statement Sunday on behalf of the Edmonton Somali community.

            “We are your neighbours, co-workers and police officers and we stand strongly beside you in condemning this violence and mourning its effect on the community.”

            Tactical officers check suspect’s apartment

            While religious and cultural organizations on Sunday condemned the actions of a man they didn’t know, a dozen heavily armed tactical-unit officers used battering rams to enter the rear of an apartment building at 113th Avenue and 117th Street. It’s believed Sharif lived in one of the building’s suites.

            A resident told CBC News that police showed him a picture of a man and that he recognized him as someone he had seen around the building. He didn’t know if it was a picture of Sharif.

            The officers left about 45 minutes later. Police did not evacuate the building while conducting the search.

            Police are expected to provide another update on the case on Monday.”

            WTF! Canada law enforcement knew for over 2 years that terrorist refugee was an ISIS sympathizer.

            That’s why we’re in Canada now because you Canadians aren’t properly vetting refugees,

            Your little lord Fauntleroy needs to keep out of US labor laws he knows nothing about and concentrate on vetting refugees properly and learn about indoctrination.

            We haven’t we haven’t had a foreign national terrorist attack since 911 because we went to war.

          • Passing Through

            What do you think I said. Sally didn’t know about Vegas. Minor things like this happen in Canada because terrorists don’t like the western world.
            Now beat it you p r i c k. I don’t read your rants past one or two lines.

          • Sally

            Shove it up your arse you worthless Canadian. There are different time zones Ahole. You need to be confined to a cabin in the middle of nowhere you bottomless pit of whining and complaining. You’ve lost your ability to read past 2 or 3 lines slow wit.

          • Sally

            Canadians should never step out of their igloos.

          • Oxy

            Feeling down today. I’m so weary of these shootings.
            I won’t even watch the coverage because all it talks about is this brave person who did that in order to help another, ignoring the elephant in the room. (“He ran into the street to pull a little girl to safety among a barrage of bullets!! With no thought for his own–“)
            When I was growing up we saw many leaders and important people murdered by guns over a short period of time. President Kennedy, his brother Robert, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, John Lennon. I can’t remember them all. I think perhaps because of that the public was more open to gun control legislation. It felt like the country was falling apart. There was the Brady bill after Reagan was shot. Diane Feinstein managed to get an assault weapon ban in the early 90’s for awhile. But these days, no way. The NRA is so powerful, backed by–imo, idiots. (Sorry, I know that will get me booted from the VFA again, but too bad.) First graders can be slaughtered in their classroom, and the Republicans refuse to even pass basic background checks? (Shame on you Kelly Ayotte. You knew what you were doing, you coward. ) The reason I think these people are idiots is because all they worry about is their 2nd amendment rights being potentially taken away, which will never happen because it would take a 2/3 vote of Congress. What about my right to go to the movies and not be mowed down by some psycho with 50 guns in his house?

          • Jessie

            It is numbing. There’s a lot we can do without changing the 2nd amendment. Getting real with what’s going on would be a good start – we’re not living in the 1700s anymore.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            NUTTER WATCH: Pat Robertson Blames Vegas Shooting On Disrespect For Trump, The National Anthem And God

          • Jessie

            I just… I mean… wtf…

          • Oxy

            Well, yeah, but you will never be able to explain that to “them”.
            50 years ago you were either a Jane Fonda or a John Wayne. No middle ground. Now there is an equal divide, except that the Jane Fonda’s had to move towards the center, while the John Waynes moved to the right.
            Another issue that disgusts me with the John Waynes–besides gun control–is Black Lives Matter. This is a very legitimate group–black people ARE murdered by bad cops with no price to pay/cover-ups. BLM is a peaceful informative group. But the John Wayne’s label them as extremist troublemakers, people who want to bring down the police. The black people must have been acting up, causing trouble, they got what they deserved. They can’t see what is right in front of their eyes in countless videos because they are racist, whether they know it or not.
            Do not read my posts right now. I am in a tizzy because of the latest mass shooting. Brings out my disgust with the John Waynes. The same people I ran into 50 years ago, except now most of them are younger than I. Same stupid ignorance though.

          • Jessie

            I figured today was impacting you, but I was off on how. I wish we could talk about it together but you’re right, it’s not a good idea because of where it leads. I’m giving you an extra big hug and I’m thinking about you even if we don’t talk for a bit. You’re good people Oxy.

          • Oxy

            Thank you.

          • Sally

            Incorrect. The Constitution can only be amended when three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States) ratify ratify it. Congress has not authority to amend the US constitution.

          • Oxy

            OK, I stand corrected.
            All the more reason for the gun lovers not to worry.

          • Sally

            There’s good reason for the 2nd amendment.

          • Oxy

            Yes, I know the “good” reasons, Sally.
            The citizens need arms in case the government or a foreign power tries to take over, blah blah blah.
            But knowing it won’t be repealed, I would like some protection against crazy people.

          • Sally

            Then fight for mental health treatment and against stigma. It’s a dangerous world.

            “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” – Benjamin Franklin

          • Oxy

            Fight for mental health treatment?
            The Repubs don’t want to pay one penny more in taxes unless it is for military. They don’t want to pay for education, they don’t care about the environment. Mental Health?
            And who is to say the mentally ill people will seek out the help, if available?
            I would prefer to make it more difficult for them to get the guns.
            I’ll give up my liberty to own an assault weapon in exchange for not being mowed down by one.
            Why does an ordinary citizen need an assault weapon?

          • Passing Through

            “No one cares what you believe because you’re worthless. Who died and
            left you god? You have delusions of omniscience. You know nothing.
            You’re just wasting space on the planet.”

            Sally to Storm earlier above part of post. Sally has it right about fighting for mental health treatment. Start with getting Sally treatment. LOL

          • Oxy

            Exactly.
            Except that Sally would not go for treatment because he does not realize he has a problem. (Do you think he is bipolar? I kind of do…)
            I am fine with paying more taxes to have the treatment available, but what do you do when the mentally ill won’t go?
            I’d rather make it very hard for them to get guns.
            I am on a rampage/rant tonight.
            So upset about the latest massacre and all the bone-head idiots in this country, starting with Trump.
            Hope I don’t drive Jessie away again.
            Storm is an amazingly calm voice of reason, who is able to state complicated things very succinctly. I truly believe AC’s prosecution team should hire him as a consultant.

          • Passing Through

            Bipolar and delusional. Or just an extreme a$$hole might be more like it.
            Is there not a database that tracks who is building an arsenal?
            Speaking of oldtimers, I’m watching “Our Souls At Night” 2017.
            Redford and Jane Fonda.

          • Sally

            Dementia runs in your family not mine. It’s a psychiatric illness. Only a moron would believe junkie.

          • Oxy

            Eff off, a-hola.

          • Sally

            Come mierda pendeja ms. demented one. You don’t like it don’t bullhorn your shiet.

          • Oxy

            I don’t like you. Nobody does. Ef off, a-hola.

          • Sally

            LOL! Who cares. You’re not everyone in any case. People lurk and read my posts. At present I’m making people laugh with just one post. To avoid you people they wait months then then let me know they approve. You people think you’re the only people in the world. You’re in the school yard. You’re false accusers, you’ve decomped to behaving like children, you’re having pity parties, you whine and complain, and you don’t know much about what you should know. You’re petty and small minded. What’s amusing is you all talk tough but the moment you’re confronted you’re about to have a stroke. Cognitive dissonance. If you don’t like it find disqus club for stupid people where the moderator is just like you.

          • Oxy

            We don’t think we are the only people in the world.
            We simply enjoy hanging out together, instead of with a-holas like you.
            Nobody lurks and reads your posts because you are on private, although I admit I read every one of your posts I am able to see because of the “Sallyisms”.
            As much as an a-hola as you are, you are so effing funny, Sally.
            That is why I don’t block you. I never know what crazy bat shiot thing you will come up with next.
            Once again: if you find us stupid, why are you reading our posts? Makes no sense. I maintain that “we” are the only people who will respond to you, and that is why you read and insult us.

          • Sally

            Sure you do. And you’re a dumfuk for not understanding what lurking entails. You don’t have to sign in to read the newsvine because its public. Lurking entails reading the newsvine without posting.

            Why are on a Cosby newsvine behaving childishly?

            I’m amused at how you all have a breakdown when anyone mirrors you. You can dish it out but you can’t take.

            There you go narcissist thinking you’re the only people who responds to me. You’re not. You don’t fit in with the witty knowledgeable sophisticated people.

            As to your last question; asked and answered.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Anti social for sure.

          • Oxy

            That is putting it very kindly, Ash.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            cruel, irritable, aggressive, initiates fights just right off the top. constantly belittling others, lies often, shows no remorse. People with these characteristics many times are the very ones who mistreat/assault/rape women. Who are the ones who would be drawn to defend a serial rapist and enjoy being cruel to those who support victims? He is an extremely sick individual. He lies about being an attorney, and prob. that he is a widow. No woman would be attracted to this type of man long term. The momentary pleasure of seeing the freak expose himself on here isn’t worth it. He needs to be deprived of attention, blocked. He doesn’t need the pleasure it brings him when he berates you, trying his best to locate his tiny peen between the rolls of blubber. Thanks, Oxy, I try

          • Oxy

            You are absolutely right, Ash.
            Could not have been better stated.
            None of us should respond to him.
            I think what I will do, because I do enjoy the wacky “Sallyisms”, is rather than block him, I will simply not respond.
            He just wrote me a long one, and I will not respond to the FOS POS.
            No more responding to Sally Sue for me!

          • Passing Through

            Those are his good points. LOL

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Yes, it’s all downhill from there. Poor guy.

          • Jessie

            How long are you gonna be private? I’m slightly (highly) irritated with it! I don’t like being private but I have to wait on a fix for my disqus stalker problem and it may never happen! I may end up having to let the creep follow me or delete him 97 times a day (literal count in a 24 hour time period). I’m giving 2 more days before I give up. So what’s your story? Lol.

          • Passing Through

            Time to mix it up with these asses. Just like Storm did. They live in our comments. Adumb has gone over the edge on making threats and telling posters what they can do.
            I got sick of him and Sally so I made it harder for them to track me.

          • Sally

            This sch&ck doesn’t understand how easy he is to find. Not working moron.

          • Sally

            You’re the king of the whiney(s)

          • Sally

            You can’t use anyone’s lack of action as an excuse for your lack of action. Are there only “repubs” in your state? Eliminate the stigma and they’ll seek help. There’s no stigma against the elderly with dementia/Alzheimer that are both psychiatric disorders and they can be violent. You also have to have been already diagnosed with a particular mental illness before denying guns (law). States can ban assault weapons. Congress can ban assault weapons. You cannot however ban cars; a weapon increasingly being used. No state can place barriers against purchasing guns.

            The federal government does in fact subsidize education. What you mean is that the federal government should pay for tuition for higher education. Have you any idea what our deficit is since George W and took us into a outspent the surplus and took us into a recession?

          • Sally

            What the heck do you have to be weary about shootings that have nothing to do with you? I’ve had friends and family in 3 terrorist attacks.That’s personal yet not weary. With you it’s pseudo concern. Think about all those people living in an actual war zone for years.

          • Oxy

            Put a lid on it, Sally Sue. Not interested in hearing from you.

          • Sally

            Poor baby. You don’t like it don’t post publicaly. This is a newsvine related to Bill Cosby not a feel sorry for you website.

          • Oxy

            So why don’t you just stick to the Bill Cosby stuff, then? Why compulsively post to people you don’t like, and who don’t like you? Nobody is forcing you to read my posts. You pretend to be a lawyer, you claim you are only on here to post about legal matters, but instead you lurk about butting into everyone’s business and insulting people every chance you get.

          • Sally

            Why don’t you get off the cosby newsvine and take your shiet elsewhere? You project; I don’t pretend to be anything while you do. Hereditary dementia is something you need to worry

          • Oxy

            My mom made it to her mid-90’s before she began to show signs of occasional dementia. My Dad, sadly, showed signs his eighties.
            In any case, nothing I can do about it. No point in worrying.
            So far, I am not brain damaged, demented, while you clearly are.
            You pretend to be a lot of things you’re not.
            Worse, you are a miserable excuse of a human being. No one could possibly tolerate your company. Is that why you are on here?
            Again, why the ef are you reading my posts, you sick batard?
            You are once again posting about me instead of Cosby.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            “You’re behind on the news” LOL!! What a clueless dolt!

          • Jessie

            Bwa!!!!!! OH EM GEE!!!! I’m sending that to my mom!

          • Passing Through

            I found it by mistake clearing out email. I have guy friends that send me all sorts of stuff. The caption with the email was ‘some women are hard to impress’ I was rolling. I sort of thought it applied to Oxy/Olly and you. Lol
            There wasn’t much more that Oxy could do but apologize.
            Vietnam is a touchy subject and this show, although disturbing, is helping to understand WTF actually happened.

          • Jessie

            I freak’n love that bird! That caption is the one I’m gonna use from now on, she was super hard to impress (impossible lol). He started to get too close and her leg popped up to block him from coming into her personal space hahaha! But I like his spirit, undeterred. He was having fun no matter what! I did like how he kept looking at her though lol, like maybe the tides were turning. Nope. Hahahaha! I’ve watched it three times now.

            Oxy’s apologized enough, more than she needs to. My reaction probably blindsided her as much as it did me. I’m not finding the series helpful at all. I was all pumped to see it, thought “great! It’ll help me understand and we can all talk about what no one talks about”. Nope. I can’t handle it, totally could if I wasn’t with JW but I can not for the life of me stop thinking about what that was like for him and I get absorbed in that feeling. Hoping that changes. But yes, what a good and powerful series. JW has received phone calls from 3 (!!!) classmates/vets he hasn’t heard from for decades, just shooting the shiot for a while and then they ask “so, did you happen to watch…” That makes my heart soar. As my pa would say, “buck up buttercup!”

          • Passing Through

            That video is addicting. Love it. It accurately portrayed the dilemma between you and Oxy and just came to light after being overlooked for months. It must have been a message?

            It must be uncomfortable watching with JW. It makes me angry to hear that even as far back as Truman and Kennedy that they got it wrong and sort of knew it.
            Can’t rewrite history and judging from Trump not much has been learned.

          • Jessie

            Is Oxy the Elvis bird?!? I didn’t shun her THAT bad did I? …Lol, I just watched again, hurts my sides to think that you thought of me and Oxy hahaha! Oh he’s so undeterred though! Goes all out and sends her over the edge! Hang on. Wait. Lol, I get it now! Still one of the best videos ever.

            JW hasn’t been watching much. He insists on having it on TV when it comes on but he’s had a few and falls asleep on my hip but manages to sing every word of the songs then seems to sleep during everything else but totally notices if I try and change the channel. So I watch it, he sings, I cry in between wondering if this is something I should be concerned about. Last night,as his head was on my hip, he piped up at the medic part “You don’t think he saw combat?!” What? No one but the TV was talking. “Who babe, who are you talking about?” And then Jefferson Airplane or something came on and he was on my hip again singing and humming. So yep. Uncomfortable. We watched the first two episodes like anyone else and now there’s this. Incredibly uncomfortable. I dread eight o’clock. It’ll soon be over. It’s been good for him though even though I paint a horrible picture, friends that were the tales of fantasy finding his phone number and calling. I’m happy for that. I’d do an Elvis cockatiel dance for that!

          • Passing Through

            Well, I was accused by Rocket Man of sitting silent. That idiot is trying to lecture on public relations. LMAO
            I knew something was going down but as disqus is disqus, things come out of sequence or are always over or you’re involved with some other Cosby thug.
            Yes, Oxy was the dancer. Hahaha Elvira!!
            Gotta love the video.

            Why isn’t Freddie on your lap? I will be glad when it’s finished. I have nodded off a bit on two nights. Rocky wakes me up when loud bombing starts. He barks.
            I put a river dancing cockatiel to her. It’s not bad, either.

          • Jessie

            I saw the riverdancer too… so awesome! I’m so glad you posted it to Oxy, I would have if I’d seen it first!

            I’m being told Survivor is coming on. “That’s what’s on at eight?” “Yeah, c’mon! Let’s meet who’s who!” Cool. Eight o’clock has been like the gallows for a week and half, or seven years, same diff. Lol. Survivor. Awesomeness!! Ha! Eff you Nam!! I got me a Survivor fan!!!

          • Jessie

            My mom forwarded the video to everyone she knows (including me lol) in some kind of group thing she must have just figured out. Each and every one of them has been replying to all. I’m a big fan of her book club crew now, especially Margaret, whose reply was “lol”, followed by “(laughing out loud)” for the benefit of those not in the know.

          • Passing Through

            You can start teaching them all Keke’s lingo. smh, roflmao, )^P, all her cutsey dips, etc.
            So Olly is a big hit.
            In Toronto they’re debating on naming a stadium in Etobicoke in honour of Rob Ford.

          • Jessie

            Ha! Lol!!! I tried teaching my mom the keke language yesterday! Roflmao was like lesson one and she stopped it right there, “that’s stupid Jessie, what kind of adult says they’re laughing their a$$ off?” “But Ma, you don’t actually say it, you use initials, short form…”, “to say something stupid”, “well, yeah but…”, “I’m es em ehing”. It was pretty funny. My mom won’t do the full keke is the point. Mom. Cracks me up.

            I had to check what you said about Rob Ford because frankly, I didn’t believe you! But you’re telling the truth!!!!!

          • Sally

            Keke agreed she would treat you kindly as long as you do same. That’s off now. You just proved you will never learn and change.

            And it’s normal for American’s say their laughing their arse off.

          • Jessie

            I’m not sure of what kind of agreement you reached with keke in regards to my interactions with her, but I’m quite fine with keke being keke.

            My mom’s circle of book club friends is perhaps a little more refined than including adults who roll their eyes.

          • Sally

            OK, gloves off. Your mother is apparently ignorant as to American communication. If she’s such a snob then she should be ashamed as to how you communicate.

          • Jessie

            Surely your gloves can come off a little more than that Sally! Why you feel the need to jump in and attempt to insult is beyond me, I doubt keke was offended by anything I said, but have at ‘er, champion for something I guess so long as it makes you feel good.

          • Sally

            You had one chance and that’s all you get. You get what you deserve and ask for.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            He’s back.

          • Jessie

            I know, he’s like a mosquito in a tent, no escaping it. I counted my refusals today, I gave up after 18. He’s too stupid to realize he’s the perfect example of how a predator will do anything to bypass consent once they have someone in their sights. I just hope he wasn’t yanking anything every time I said “no”.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Gross! I didn’t need that picture of him trying to pulling on that tiny organ. You can bet he is getting some kind of perverted pleasure out of it or, he wouldn’t be doing it. A grown man/father/husband at that.

          • Jessie

            Yuck! I didn’t need to know my words caused anyone to consider his pustule!! Hahahaha!! Now that we’re mutually grossed out lol, yes I know he’s getting some kind of freakish pleasure/satisfaction out of forcing himself into my list. I just hope he isn’t getting TOO much pleasure (don’t think on that, quick, go watch PT’s Fibbles bird, sooooo funny!!)

          • Jessie

            I’m at 48 and counting lol, he says he won’t respect my “no, I don’t want you to follow me” because I won’t respect his demand that I stop posting about Cosby on a public board about the subject. Seriously. I promised him he’d win because I’ll become unconscious when I fall asleep later, but this dude wants what he wants when he wants it and there’s no way he’s taking “no” for an answer! Sound like anyone else we know? Boy, Adumb’s wife sure knows how to pick great guys as role models for her kids!

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            If I were you, I’d block him. He needs to learn that he doesn’t always get his way, the fat, control freak.

          • Jessie

            I already have the block planned. I’m going to make it fun, he’s obviously fixated, so I’m going to capitalize and block and unblock whenever the mood hits me (which I’m hoping will be at random times), he’ll need to stay on his toes! And pray that his boss doesn’t catch him constantly checking his phone in the cubicle!

          • KillerKoala

            I thought you were letting me follow you now? I thought you gave up or something. The harasser being harassed now doesn’t like it? How ironic. By the way, followed! You seem to derive some sick pleasure out of harassing others so you should see how it feels.

          • Jessie

            I find zero pleasure in having to say “no” to a grown man over and over and over again. I don’t even like having to do it with my dog for heavens sake, and even he accepts it after the third time, max!

            Don’t worry, you’ll win, you’ll get me when I’m asleep or something. Cosby supporter 101, when you’re not given permission just bide your time until you don’t need it.

          • Sally

            As to the agreement I told you about it when you returned.

          • Passing Through

            Get your mom an avatar and put her with Keke for a month. Then she can use condensed versions with her book club. Less strain on the keyboard.
            I didn’t believe the Rob Ford headline and sure enough!!!

          • Jessie

            My mom with an avatar!!! Hahaha! Goodnight Nurse! She’d be the coolest geriatric in the club!

          • Passing Through

            Perfect name for her…Goodnight Nurse!!

          • Storm Junkie

            Hopefully Jessie’s just taking a break. She hasn’t had one and it’s good to get away now and then.

          • keke

            Hahaha. I found you guys.

            Lets stay over here now?

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Hi Oxy, I’m guessing that jess. is taking a needed break from disqus and will hopefully be back soon. There have been several times that I have been triggered by something said on here, and had to separate myself to allow myself some space to heal. I’m sure you didn’t intend to hurt Jessie and she will realize that. She might just need some space. About your last question, I don’t know. I don’t even understand why I get triggered and hurt sometimes but when I do, I know enough now to know that I need to take care of myself. Each of us is the keeper of our own hearts,handle with care. Caring about both of your hearts too and hoping for quick healing and restoration of the fun times again soon. <3

          • Oxy

            Thank you, Ashley.

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            *BARF*

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            *BARF*

          • Oxy

            Oh, no, Jellyfish!! Did Ash and I make you “barf”?
            What were you doing reading the posts of gnats 1,000 miles away in the first place? If you need to purge your gelatinous body of some of it’s poisons, stick your stubby little fingers down your throat. Or just reread some of your own posts, or look in the mirror.

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            Run along One of your old socks is missing. Don’t want to keep you

          • Oxy

            LOL!
            I made you barf, but you made me laugh. Who comes out ahead?
            YOU go away, Jelly. Stay out of my history, if you can’t handle it.

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            no, no…That wasn’t a question.

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            I’ve already taken a screenshot and sent it to Mike Kehs, the Court Administrator. I’m sure the judge would be most interested to know she does not in fact “understand what occurred [in the courthouse] and the ramifications of what occurred [there]”, that her apology was not actually “sincere” as he believed, and she still has not learned that “she had made a mistake by doing what she did” (i.e., using social media to do unethical things). I bet that judge would be quite disappointed to see her immature and malicious actions here.

            Her words:

            “The only reason was to have a video go viral. I just figured this is my one time to have a video go viral. I didn’t realize the ramifications of what I was doing,” said Burrows, maintaining she has “integrity and a high moral fiber.” “I usually am wise. Unfortunately, this time I had a lapse of judgment. I didn’t do it out of malicious intent. I truly, truly am sorry. I pray for the mercy of the court.”

            Wise, huh? High moral fiber, huh? No malicious intent, huh? She’s truly, truly sorry? Oh we can see that, based on her defamatory account. 😉 What a good “Christian” she is.

            I hope she starts studying up on defamation lawsuits. I got her to court once….it won’t be the last time.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            Good for you! Hope you screen shot her comments and avatar quote about Cosby’s victims. She is not only immature, and needy but harassing and malicious.

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            Sure did. Anitra is stunted somehow, stuck in the mentality of a young teen, and sadly I’m 99% sure she was probably molested in some way in her church. Possibly preacher daddy, as she is utterly dependent upon him, even at 37 years of age. Thus why you see this immature petty stuff, like committing crimes because she “wanted to go viral”, or calling others “formerly obese”. That is a comment that would hurt a middle school girl, not an adult. I feel sad for her, even as I shake my head at her utter religious hypocrisy.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            She obviously has no core values of her own, she is borrowing, living off of some one elses, just a religious mimicker/poser.

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            Couldn’t agree more.

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            Shouldn’t you be cruising hook up sites on con agra company time?

          • Truth Teller

            Lol!!! Yeah, I heard she would only look for rich, white men to date. Just as much of a gold digger as the accusers she represents, I guess. Sounds a bit racist as well. Heck, I’m not surprised. Quite sad and even more pathetic than she tries to deem others. I wonder if that’s one of the places she’s found the 10th love of her life “Marty” lol!

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            She’s never dated off-white. None of these shills have. Racists one and all. He works at con agra too, I think. It’s called climbing the corporate ladder. lol She better hurry! At 50 she’s still fetching coffee & answering phones!

          • Truth Teller

            smh.. did you know she also claims to sell jewelry, as well? Yeah, in her spare time, besides promoting her fake victim fb page and annoying Cosby supporters, she makes gross looking costume jewelry thinking that people would actually stoop so low as to buying her products. She has an online “business” that really isn’t a business. She’s sold an amazingly horrendous 19 items in a DECADE which were mostly sold to family and friends. Nobody in their right mind would put any of that jewelry on their body. She made a fb video showing a necklace where we are forced to look at her sagging breasts as she models it. The dress she had on was just as hideous. If she wore a solid color, it’d be shown better. No, she chooses to wear a loud ugly, green thing with leaves on it. No taste at all. I say, her boyfriend could do much better.

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            lolz soooo true!

          • Truth Teller

            Brandy Betts, I’m about 100% sure the judge has more important things to worry about than listen to you drivel on and on about someone who you decided to pick a fight with. He’s made his ruling. There is no reason for him to listen to you. He does not live to please you. While he’s trying to make rulings on murderers and thieves, you think he should take the time out of his busy day to handle a woman who violated a court order lol! Were you this passionate when Gloria Allred violated a court order? Of course not. So, stop with the fake disgust.

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            Keep whistling in the dark, little girl.

          • FiddleRox

            Are you saying that you are phuqing the judge so that he gives you favors?

          • Truth Teller

            “she is to be pitied.” — Nobody cares, really. But yeah, pity her if you want. Pretty sure she’d still sleep well at night. You’ve proven yourself a nobody, anyway.

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            Yo, look at how Anitra deleted her original post above (the one I already got a screenshot of). 😀 For someone who crows about being so “brave”, she sure doesn’t act like it. 😉

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

            I was looking for it and noticed it was conspicuously missing. You put her in her place. What a needy coward.

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            She is indeed a strange bird. And she seems to think deleting her posts means they don’t exist anymore. 😀 That’s how she got in trouble with the law in the first place… we downloaded all her videos and turned her in before she quickly deleted them when she heard we had them. She doesn’t get it. 😀 I guarantee you, she won’t be able to stay away from the trial in April. She has to escalate, she can’t help it. But we’ll find her and make sure police keep her away from the women.

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            actually you reposted the same clip Anitra did on your social media. And you deleted it about the same time you ratted out anitra for doing exactly what you did. You’re the coward, a rat and a hypocrite

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            Correct. I downloaded her video just in case she deleted hers, which she did. I then posted it to youtube on my channel, called the detectives, then sent the cops the link per their request. Once they downloaded it, I deleted it.

            Reporting someone who is conducting illegal activity and stalking rape victims isn’t “cowardly” and it doesn’t make you a rat, lol. It makes you a good citizen. Otherwise, the cops are “cowardly” too, for banning her from the courthouse, haha.

            Nice try, Craig. Keep on bein’ pathetic. It’s what you do best, clown.

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            You’re not a good citizen. Your neighbors hate your guts. They hate your guts because you intrude on their lives & rat them out to the landlord. Your co-workers hate you because you’re lazy and a brown noser. Even your online co-workers at the we support the survivors of bill cosby hate group find you impossible to get along with. If you’re real nice I’m sure Anitra would be happy to show everyone the termination letter you got after the fiasco in atlanta where genuine survivors of sexual assault gathered inside to offer Dr Cosby standing ovations while you stood outside with Gloria Allred and a few of the beverly hillbillies in their 12 dollar rape victim t-shirts. Everyone knows there’s something basically wrong with you, Betts. hat ‘delightful’ personality has kept you single, childless and fetching coffee as 50 draws near. So there.

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            HAHAHAHA! Craig Hingley, you never fail to disappoint. Besides getting to know so many of the beautiful women who survived Cosby’s crimes, watching his career and reputation disappear into the horizon as one of the most hated men in America, and watching all but one moron juror want to convict him of assaulting Andrea Constand…. laughing at your hilarious failing attempts to figure out the details of my life has been my favorite thing about getting involved in this crazy Cosby world. It’s been a crack up to see your “stories” about me evolve from the already-ridiculous, into full blown whale’s tales, much like the game of telephone. Except that you play the game with your multiple personalities, passing the wrong information down until your craziest manifestation vomits it out onto Disqus. 😀 Ahhh Disqus. The only place in this world anyone pays any attention to you. Well…the 2 or 3 that are left on here I guess. Man….when Cosby is convicted, I kinda feel bad for you…. What else is left for you on this earth?

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            3 years later and you and your ‘lovely ladies’ are watching Dr Cosby live out his blessed life with a half a billion in the bank & surrounded by his family. You and your etsy salesmen pals & the prostitutes you shill for are broke and barren and too old to turn tricks. They have to frequent hook up sites like you.

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            BAHAHAAAA! Oh Craig, you’re a hoot, as always. Thanks for my quarterly laugh-fest. Ta, clown.

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            Off to help genuine survivors of rape? Of course not. You couldn’t care less about helping women who have been raped. Nor are you qualified to offer any kind of advise or counseling on the topic. Your 6 hour etsy degree in online marketing never taught you anything about that. All you learned how to do was spam message boards.

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            Oh right, I forgot. This is the part where I say “bye” and you need to have the last word so you can feel that tiny speck of self-respect. I’ll allow it. Here you go: ___insert Clown-ism___ in 3….2….1……….

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            This is the part where I remind you that unlike Anitra, there’s no one who posts on these boards who cares about you or your worthless opinions. Even the people from your own hate group can’t stand you. Now you may go.

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            I was gone after the words, “This is…” Didn’t read the rest. Bye, Craig.

            3……….2……..1………….

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            You’ve bragged that you’ve read every word I’ve posted online for the last 3 years. I never for one moment thought you had. It’s just really creepy that you’d claim to have done so. Is this why you never married or had kids? To busy acting like a psycho online?

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            I see “you’ve” or something… the rest is clicks and whistles. Bye, Craig.

            3………2………1…………

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            One just hopes that you keep your fawning over human toilets like lili Bernard & andrea constand on a professional level You’re an etsy shill and nothing more than a lowly paid parasite and an outsider.They know it & so should you. You’re their help. Don’t forget your place like you do here on the boards.

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            Haha! Oh I have tons of standing with you. LOLOL. I always have. Everyone can see it right here, you writing desperate novels to me. You can’t help yourself. 😉 You luuuuuuv me, Craig Hingley from Halifax Nova Scotia, failed security guard, unemployed, living in a rotting old apartment alone, watching old B horror films and giving out BJ’s to random dudes for weed (this is all documented by you on Twitter @WayneBohz, @CraigNMark, and @BrandiBettss). You’re the *textbook* internet troll.

            Craig, you believe that I somehow validate your pathetically lonely existence. My “place” is sitting here every quarter or so, making a couple comments on Disqus, you come running like a lap dog and I laugh at the clown you are…on here, and “IRL”. 😀 😀 Down in the deepest recesses of your schizophrenic mind, you know this to be true. This is why you get so ruffled and angry, trying to “dominate” me (LOL) with this ridiculous “know your place” nonsense. Well that and the fact that your Dad left your mentally ill mother and started a family of his own, leaving you behind. That’s probably the #1 driving factor. Then the drugs, mixed with prescriptions. And then people like me. These 3 things drive your angry, lonely life from underneath, both propping you up and rotting your insides.

            So there ya go. In a weird way, the world owes sick folks like you a thank you. Harvey Weinstein was just taken down in a matter of days – days – thanks to the hard work of Cosby’s victims. It’s just starting, the revolution. And we’re coming for you, Craig. You’re next. 😉

            xo

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            Said the gnat from a thousand miles away. The name’s wilma. Only people who know me get the privilege of addressing me by Craig. Stand on that.

            PS Calm your tits

          • KillerKoala

            What does Weinstein have to do with Cosby victims? Were they assaulted by him too? Are they starting anti-sexual assault team where they go after all men accused of sexual assault?
            (I’m pretty sure you just full of BS to impress Wilma)

          • Jessie

            Bravery feeds bravery.

          • keke

            I mean its as if she’s saying the women are behind the Harvey scandal. Lol

            But im sure she just means inspiration. Riiiiiiggghht???

            Where is Sarita to make another video again.
            Hey Rose Mcgowan had an NDA that she may have just broken now speaking on the case she had with Harvey. Maybe Andrew will get “inspired” and do the same. 😁

          • FiddleRox

            You should stay away from men, women, animals and mirrors. You are a deranged lunatic.

          • Jessie

            Lol, but she sure does have Craig’s number! No one can control you folks like Brandy, the obsession would be creepy if it weren’t for how hilariously she handles the obsessed!

          • FiddleRox

            Sorry. Can’t she answer for herself? Why does she need a butt-licker like you running to her aid when you claim (falsely to be truthful) that she handles what you call the ‘obsessed’?

            We all know Brandy Betts (as are you) is a liar and a hypocrite and she has her nose stuck in places where it doesn’t belong. There are reasons why Brandy can’t keep a job nor a boyfriend nor a girlfriend. She even got kicked out of the facebook hate groups page because she is that despicable.

          • Jessie

            Lol, how am I supposed to know if Brandy is going to respond to you, even if she had been talking to you she might not respond, she only pops in every few months to get you folks going!

          • FiddleRox

            Sorry. Did I say you were supposed to know whether Brandy was going to respond to me or not? The point was that you project yourself as being her watchdog. You didn’t need to respond at all. But you just can’t control yourself. You just have to hear yourself talk. You just have to run your mouth.

          • Jessie

            I don’t know why you asked me why Brandy couldn’t speak for herself Fibbs, you just simply did. Lol. I thought your jump in on a conversation you weren’t involved in was funny, so I jumped in after you to say so!

          • FiddleRox

            Why are you so stupid? NVMD. A stupid person wouldn’t have the capacity nor the knowledge to be able to answer that question. This is just your typical JessDUMB nonsense. But what else should we expect from a crybaby and hypocritical shill like you? Answer: Nothing!

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            These pots’ kettles are soooo black, aren’t they? 😀

          • keke

            well i guess she is on us..well on somebody, since you all threw her out of managing the site(giggle)

          • Jessie

            Are you sure you’re not just going by what the hilarious finger eww is saying? From what I saw Brandy wanted to take a more aggressive stance than folks like Deebs, so there was some distance and then a coming together. Happens, go figure right, individuals. Smh curtesy twirl a hundred year old dinosaur’s body etc. Why didn’t you tell us keke? Had we known you were a product of the 50’s we’d probably have come off much more understanding!

          • keke

            Wtc??!?!?
            You trying to say i have old ideas? What you say, “lady”?

          • Jessie

            Not sure what “wtc” means, but yeah grand mémère, you seem to have some pretty ignorant and outdated ideas.

          • keke

            And your just foolish.

            At least we have a current ACTUAL open confession from Harvey that NOBODY can even deny.

            Your fake vic’s lack depth. They need depth so folks can understand better instead of the typical response.

            Again I’m glad folks are blasting them all.

            You can’t handle the truth, mediocre.

          • Jessie

            Not sure who “my” Vic’s are either, but you’re like the third Duhfenders to say Weinstein confessed in a way “that NOBODY can even deny.” Does my heart proud keke. I agree with you. Even though he still maintains everything was consensual and that he “suffers” from s3x addiction and not assault addiction, that he never had to drug his prey, his own words are proof of what he did. His victims are even more mind boggling to some because they stayed in his room without being drugged and even feigned enjoyment in order to end the ordeal. Good for you for seeing past all that keke, there’s hope for you yet!!

          • keke

            You act simple all the time. As if you can’t tell or see there are differences wity each situation.

            Harvey wasn’t in court being questioned by opposing counsel. His statement is current. No oopsies there. Cosby didn’t admit that he needs help in his depo.

            Anyway it’s ok. You need all the little ‘support’ over something of your own making that you perceive as good from others that you can get.
            Smh.

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            Actually, I was falsely accused by two women who ended up getting kicked off the team once everyone realized what really happened. You saw the infamous post from 2.5 years ago that these nimrods keep in a gilded box and pull it out to kiss it every few weeks lol. I worked on the page for ages after that and recently retired as I’m helping create a program for assault and abuse victims at my church (25,000 attendees at the main campus plus 6 satellite locations). But it’s so stinking funny to come back and visit these boards and watch these losers have seizures. 😀

          • Jessie

            Well we’ll keep‘em primed and at the pump for you! Wish they wouldn’t go into seizures so often, but that’s in god’s list of decisions, not mine or yours. 😘

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            Ha! I’ve been so curious…so since the Weinstein thing busted open have any of them walked back all their accusations that these women were “sluts” for going to Cosby’s hotel room for “meetings” (which of course they believe was just for slutty sexy sex, lol)? Any of them making the connections with the matching bathrobes, offers of jobs, threats to rescind jobs, assistants guarding doors, etc.? 😀 Or was that just Weinstein and Cosby is “totally different”? 😀

          • Jessie

            Right?! Most of them, if not all, believe Weinstein is guilty!! When pressed for why the say he “pretty much” admitted it!!!

            Slutty s3xy s3x. LOL!!!!

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            HAHA! So “pretty much” suddenly qualifies for guilt, eh?

            What happened to: “INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!! GAAHLAHLGHGHLGHL. Feminazis! Racists! Gloria Allred! Jews! One million posts nitpicking to the atomic level for eternity!! Blaaarrrrghhhh”…….. 😀 😀

          • Sally

            You need to learn how to distinguish. There are several issues with Weinstein. First, possible sexual harassment. It’s not a crime. It only involves job applicants, employee and educational levels. It must also be repetitive. Take for example Gynith Paltrow. It happened once and she didn’t lose her job. That’s not sexual harassment. Then there’s the euphemism of let’s talk about your career in my hotel room. Not an applicant nor an employee. Then there is the possible harassment of applicants and employees. Judging from his response he did sexually harass. From there it morphed into alleged crimes.

            Sexual harassment is a civil suit not a crime.

          • keke

            retired? Oh ok. My, my. Interesting. :^)

          • keke

            Thanks to the….

            Oh my, B.
            Hmmm.

          • keke

            Why does she keep on talking to you if…..? ? ????(eyeroll)

          • keke

            Haha. Rotfl!

        • Jessie

          So here I was feeling all good about myself because I’m getting my own FBI petition (Adumb feels they’re an effective way to shut people up), I even said “in your face Brandy!”, but a couple hours later I see you have your own cartoon avatar that people who want to be you use? What the heck Brandy. I can’t compete with that!! I had a few minutes to shine but oh no, couldn’t even get that! Anitra. Lol. On so many levels.

        • Truth Teller

          Yeah, whatever honey. Question: Are you still making that frightful, cheap looking jewelry that nobody’s buying? Begging people to purchase your products and join your little jewelry page is just as much of an embarrassment. lol

        • Truth Teller

          Yeah, whatever honey. Question: Are you still making frightful, cheap looking jewelry that nobody’s buying? Begging people to purchase your products & join your little jewelry page is just as much of an embarrassment as anything. lol

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            At least I’m selling something. You give it away for free. 😉

          • Truth Teller

            Brandy Betts, selling something? Selling what??? I can’t wait to hear this! Obviously, you’re not talking about jewelry. Seems to me, you couldn’t give that trash away even if you wanted to. And as far as me giving “it” away for free, I’ll assume you’re talking about sex. No, sweetie. That’s something your “angelic” FAKE victims are experts in..

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            Hahahaaaa! It’s adorable that you think I only sell stuff on etsy. What is with you Cosby weirdos and your bizarre obsession with etsy? Your creepy balding buddy Craig Hingley thinks I “took a marketing course and learned to groom rape victims” through etsy! HAHAHA! What a couple of naive maroons.

            And Anitra, I apologize. I forgot that you’ve never had sex. You’re one of those gals who hates rape victims because you yourself have a history that you’ve never resolved. So….was it Daddy? Uncle? Someone in the church? Who?

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            You did take a marketing course thru etsy. I recall you advertising having done so. You are a 10 cent shill like most of the paid shills who have been unsuccessfully badmouthing Dr Cosby for 3 years. And most of you have etsy accounts and took the same marketing course they offer.
            Mind you, you’re still doing grunt work at conagra foods shipping frozen corn from aisle twelve & fetching coffee to pay the rent. Although seeing how much of your work day is spent online stalking strangers, gossiping about your betters & trying to lynch black celebrities I’m guessing you don’t have any great demands laced on you there. At the tender age of almost 50 if you were capable of doing more than filing & fetching coffee you’d be doing it. Instead you’re on the boards with your etsy diploma in hand (best six hours of your life, am I wrong?) and a failing hate group that lost half it’s white membership when Dr Cosby wasn’t found guilty of a crime during that bogus trial with the Canadian sextortionist andrea constand.

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            HAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHA! What a loser. I can’t even imagine the horror that is your wasted life, Craig. All day in a cheap, dark apartment on a computer, schizophrenia moving your mouse-clicking craw to manage your 17 accounts that talk to one another as if they’re separate entities! Bahaha! Copying and pasting the same utterly bogus information over and over and over and over and over until you die. You’ve been doing this 24/7 for THREE YEARS without a breath! Omg could you be any more pathetic? Hahaha! *wipes eyes* Have fun, Craig. You’re so predictable, I could list out your next three posts in my sleep. BOOORRRRIIIINGGGG. I’ll leave you to your twitching. Ta.

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            See, you didn’t have me blocked afterall. Funny thing for a gnat from a thousand miles away to do; huff and puff like you do when everyone here knows all you do is answer phones and fetch coffee.

            By the way, I could fit half of your apartment in my kitchen sight unseen

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            I know, I know Craig. My acknowledgement of your presence always makes your tiny lil private parts all tingly and warm. Mmmm. Enjoy the pet on your head. *pet pet* There you go. xoso

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            Save it for your plenty of fetish hook up sites, hag. You’ll have more luck there than on the boards where you’ve got nothing to offer but your bad breath. No one here’s impressed with you semi retired biddies and your ants in your panty attitude because Dr Cosby has a half a billion dollars & the crazy old prostitutes you shill for are turning tricks behind the crematorium

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            Heeheehee! It is sooo easy to hit your button. Always did enjoy watching you go from zero to schizo in one post. 😀 😀 😀

            I’ll come back in another few months and get you all hot n bothered again. Here’s a little tug on your leash (*tug*) and one last little pat (*good boy*). Now sit. Stay. Bye. xo

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            Better bring more than sparrow sized huffs & puffs of hot air, coffee fetcher. You’re as pitiful at shilling & your attempts to bully, stalk & harass have been these 3 years. Dr Cosby is free with a half a billion and insignificant you has a etsy online marketing degree and a failing hate group. See how much bigger you need to come, hag?

          • Truth Teller

            Oh, I’m so sorry! I should have counted the 4 additional sales you’ve made elsewhere. Oopsy! Took a marketing course and learned to groom rape victims, huh? Is that what he said? lol!! He’s hilarious and a truth teller as, well. Yeah, looks like Craig is 2 for 2! If I were you, I’d demand my money back from that marketing course. They scammed you, “toots”.

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            Oh Anitra. Lol. Poor thing. When will you finally realize no one cares what you think about me or Cosby’s rape victims? When will you see the world is laughing at you? Lololol! Omg, the comments on the articles when you got arrested… Hahahahaaaa! What a fool. When people found out you were trying to become a “viral” internet star… bahaha! You should’ve heard the laughter. Girl, we all know you live in daddy’s house. He pays for everything. You have no job. You’re still a teenager, mentally speaking. That’s why you claim to be a “Christian”, so that you please your preacher daddy you are bizarrely bound to at nearly 40 years old! What binds you to him, Anitra? I think we all know. You prefer to stay with your abuser, that’s why you hate these women. They got away from theirs but you never will from yours, because you take his money. Everyone knows your story, dear. So of course you have to focus on me! It helps distract you from your horrifying life. 😀 You despise yourself. So you try to make others as miserable as you are. The saddest part is… I’m laughing at you, you’re not bothering *me* at all! Hahaha! Oh well. Maybe someday you’ll get it…

          • Truth Teller

            Wow… so much to say and so little time. Heck, I’ve got time now.

            Brandy Betts, I know someone who cares very much.. you.
            Obviously, you care a lot about me, what I do, and what I think about regarding yourself and the accusers. Isn’t that why you creepingly subscribed to my youtube channel to follow and stalk me? Come on.. admit it. You’ve been obsessed with me ever since I made you look like a complete IDIOT on youtube a while back:-) You couldn’t handle it, so you decided to take the focus away from Cosby and get into personal attacks. Someone who has a different opinion than you and can’t stay on the subject of Cosby, to go so far as to go into personal attacks and trying to find information in their background for malicious reasons, is clearly mentally retarded and should not be walking the streets. You can deny it all you want. The proof is in the pudding. All of that because I have a different opinion than you. What’s wrong with you? You do know that is not normal, correct? Have you ever seen the inside of a psychiatric ward? You’re way overdue for a visit.

            Tried to look like a hero claiming that I wanted to be popular by putting a viral video on my channel. I didn’t even see it that way. Just wanted the public to know the truth because the media wasn’t giving it. I could go on and explain why I did what I did, but it won’t matter. I mean heck, I already have viral videos on my channel:-) But let’s say it was true, I’m not sure why you think me trying to “be popular” was a problem. Your sorry accusers try to get their last 5 minutes of fame every chance they see a tv camera around, hoping for an interview. You don’t have a problem with that, Brandy. Do you make fun of them? I mean, heck..they try their hardest with the dramatics, making it their mission to cry during their interviews and tears NEVER come haha!

          • Truth Teller

            You also sound a bit jealous. Why should I have to work, Brandy? According to you, my daddy is rich, remember? I don’t need to slave and fetch coffee or answer phones to earn peanuts, like you. I’m already living a great life and have achieved a great education with proof of a bachelor’s degree. You know, something you’ve NEVER accomplished before in your 50 years?:-) That should be good enough, right? You don’t even know what I do for a living and I can guarantee you can’t prove anything you’ve said. Anybody that wants to look me up will find no arrest charge, so stop the lies, babe. It just makes you look way more pathetic than you are. The detective you annoyed just told you everything you wanted to hear so you could stop bugging him. He, along with another detective, told me you weren’t right in the head after I told them all about you. Didn’t you try to get people fired from their job just because they had a difference of opinion than you? Talk about Cosby being a sicko? Look in the mirror, woman!

            You’re still mad because I received NO jail time, NO fine and I’m not even banned from the courthouse lol!. I can’t go to any more Cosby proceedings. I’m not hurt by that, Ms. Betts. I know it still hurts YOU sooooo bad that I didn’t suffer the consequences you wanted me to suffer. I read a comment from you belly aching about how I never pay for anything lol! You exposed yourself right there that you’re still mad. And you trying to contact the court administrator (or whoever) to make me re-pay for a court order because YOU think I wasn’t sympathetic enough.. what happened to that, Brandy? hahahaha!! Seems to me he rolled his eyes at your request. 50 hrs of community svc at my church. Oh, how horrifying! How “humiliating”! How is doing work in the community (that I’ve been doing each week for 20 years, anyway) humiliating? Hey, aren’t you supposedly “christian”, too? It’s nice to know that you couldn’t care less about doing community service to better yourself or the community around you. It’s also nice to know that you make fun of people that decide to stay celibate and not be a fornicator like yourself. I’m sure Jesus is THRILLED! Hey, don’t get mad at me just because you can’t keep your legs closed.

          • https://www.facebook.com/We-Support-the-Survivors-of-Bill-Cosby-715166358581307/ Cosby4Prison

            So I was right on all counts. BAHAHA! Yup. All I had to do was push the button and out came the vomit. That’s a *lot* of desperate protestations there, honey. So when did Daddy do it to you? I’m guessing it was when you were about….13 years old, no?

          • keke

            Ugh. She sells? Oh my. Then she mentioned how she sells more than Etsy. Oh my. We’ve been talking to a @#$&- all this time?

            No wonder she supports these kind of women.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

      She doesn’t “know” anything about whether Cosby raped women, Jay. You are just spewing your usual pro Cosby bs.

  • Janice Archer Weaver

    Maxine speaking her mind is not saying much!

  • Storm Junkie

    I see her calling the Cosby’s her friends. No one asked her how she felt about Bill giving sedatives to women he wanted to have sex with.

    • jinarvada

      There is no credible evidence he gave sedatives or any drugs to anyone w/o their knowledge; and those who took them with knowledge have nothing to complain about. So why should Maxine care about consensual drug ingesting? People do that and it is a private thing.

      • Storm Junkie

        There has never been any credible evidence that there was ever any consensual drug ingesting.
        Evidence says Cosby didn’t take them and he wasn’t honest about the identity of the pills when he talked the women into taking them.
        You can’t take something with knowledge when you’ve been lied to.
        It’s entertaining to see just how low you will go to defend what Bill has admitted doing.
        Why don’t you ask Maxine how she feels about Bill giving drugs to women younger than his daughters in an effort to have sex with them while her friend Camille (who was being lied to) stayed home taking care of his five children?

        • jinarvada

          I’m sure Maxine has heard the same things everyone else has, which is why she introduced the subject the way she did. Obviously she has made her own judgement call. Many of these women described consensual interaction with Cosby, including willingly accepting drugs. Even though many of them have no credible evidence to support their claims, if you want to believe everything they say so much, then you have to acknowledge that their drug taking was consensual. You insist on believing the ones who claimed they were drugged w/o knowledge? But you don’t accept the ones who accepted them eagerly, even playing games of chicken by shooting pool with him and taking pills each time they lost…..

          • Storm Junkie

            It was pinball and it was one pill.
            What do you think of Bill tricking a 19 year old star struck women into taking a pill that would make her pass out and then having sex with her?
            In your mind does passing out after being given a pill equal consensual sex?
            Does consensual sex gross you out?

            ” At some point I didn’t really wake up, but I “came to” a little and the first thing I saw was Bill Cosby’s face not far above me and we were both naked. He was inside me and touching me and I was so grossed out I can’t find the words to express my disgust and mercifully I passed back out again.”—— Margie Shapiro

          • jinarvada

            We know you obsess over these accusers’ stories, so I don’t care about pinball or pool. You would certainly know those details. But she wasn’t a child. At 19 I knew that it was dangerous to take unknown pills from anybody, even as a game,and, as I said, she has no credible evidence to prove any of that happened.

          • Storm Junkie

            We know for a fact Bill was using sedatives to have sex with women. That’s evidence of something. Bill lied to his wife for 50 years? That’s evidence that Bill will lie to those he cares about the most, so why would you believe he wouldn’t lie to you?
            Do you honestly believe all of these women are lying when they claim they were drugged without their knowledge well before it was known that Cosby had the drugs and what he intended to use them for? Is that evidence or coincidence?
            Yes some of them trusted Bill was the man they thought he was and foolishly took pills but the results were the same.

          • jinarvada

            I have no way of knowing which women are lying or telling the truth except for those that BC has acknowledged having contact with. And among them, we don’t know which are telling the whole truth, either. HE said/she said; consensual or not. Many of those he acknowledges have also told shifting stories full of consensual acts, money-based motives such as “pots of gold” and dollars for their education, which they took over long periods in what appear to be consensual relationships. Many of them do have motive to lie or misremember the facts. How the accusers frame their past relationships now to appear as though they were innocent and gullible then and under his spell is the stuff novels are made of. Until they produce credible evidence, there is no proof. Whether he lied to keep info from his wife is between the two of them.

          • Storm Junkie

            So whatever BC says is now the credible evidence you base your opinion on. Whether he lied to his wife speaks to his integrity and credibility and Bill has none of either.

          • Sally

            She’s talking about evidence. To rephrase her post; the only evidence of whom Cosby gave drugs to is his acknowledgement of who gave them to. ie-constand says he gave her pills, he admits he did, TS says he gave her quaaludes, he admits he did. That’s the only evidence there is.

          • jinarvada

            He is no more or no less credible than those accusers who have demonstrated inconsistencies and shifting stories in their own words and writings since this whole thing began, despite the fact that they expect – no DEMAND – that they be believed with their word alone. And many of their own words highlight details that strongly suggest that they knew what they were doing when they consciously made the decisions to take advantage of their “rapes” and get favors and money

          • Jessie

            At 19 some kids think taking a drug might be fun. I bet if those gals knew the drug was a sedative to make sex happen without their ability to participate or refuse they’d maybe decline. Acid trip, sure why not, rapey rape time, not so much.

            Of course it should go without saying that we are ONLY discussing his “encounters” with young women who chose to ingest a pill for “fun”. Not those, like Constand who thought it was actually medicine. Or all the others who didn’t even know pills were in the mix.

          • jinarvada

            Of course, it should also go without saying that most of the accusers have no credible evidence to prove anything happened as alleged, or proof that it was not consensual, which is why Constand couldn’t even convince the jury beyond a reasonable doubt.

          • Jessie

            Of course, how weird would it be if all rapes were witnessed or videotaped.

          • jinarvada

            Yes, how weird would it be if all crimes were witnessed or videotaped. It would be much easier to investigate and solve and prosecute all burglaries, robberies, murders and hit and runs. Since that doesn’t happen, we need to rely on strong forensic and documented evidence to back up any statements made by accusers. Which is all the more reason that these accusers’ lack of credible evidence, or even an interest in seeking medical attention at the time their unknown drugging rendered them speechless and incapacitated, is so suspicious. Rape should not be the only crime excused from the need of solid evidence. Right. A murder victim cannot speak for herself or seek to file a criminal report. A “rape” victim has no GOOD reason not to, despite the excuses made by all the fake Rape-victim-trauma advocates. Many crimes and traumatizing events can leave a person with memory problems and PTSD. Rape trauma is not proven to be worse than other kinds.

          • Jessie

            in the absence of videotape and witnesses you simply have to judge based on what there is. I think that’s true for any crime. Aquaintance rape is definitely different because there’s a HUGE possibility of becoming “the bad guy” for reporting. Is there any other crime even remotely close to carrying that kind of risk? I can report my bike was stolen or my roommate is missing and I don’t have to worry about it biting me in the butt so long as it’s true. Not so with rape, there’s people like you who roll their eyes at claims just because this that or the other wasn’t done, EVEN when we know that this that and the other don’t get done! It’s reality Jin, let’s deal with what’s real and then shake our fists at the moon after we hold perpetrators accountable. This dude is such a rapist. Oh, there’s nothing you deem as credible to support that? I dunno then, send him a plant or something. In the meantime, rape is rarely witnessed or videotaped and I don’t need either to effect change.

          • jinarvada

            “Acquaintance rape is definitely different because there’s a HUGE possibility of becoming “the bad guy” for reporting.”

            If you believe your former boyfriend entered your home and stole valuable items from you, but you couldn’t prove he did it, but you accused him anyway and he was investigated by the police, and as a college student, he was expelled and called a thief, then you found out it was somebody else, would yo be the bad guy?

          • Jessie

            What? If I thought person “A” robbed me but I was mistaken and it was actually person “B”? Yeah, not sure what boards you’ve been reading but that would be totally more forgivable than saying person “A” raped me when he actually did and I have no videotapes or witnesses.

          • Sally

            Ruining someones life is never forgivable.

          • Jessie

            Agreed.

          • Jessie

            And what’s up with all this severe repercussion talk like it’s the fault of the accusation? A kid shouldn’t get kicked out of college over an accusation. “Duh, so let’s stop the accusations!” That’s just stupid. Let’s fix the problem instead. Policy. Procedure. Not silence. America. Unreal.

          • Sally

            She has to prove that.

          • Storm Junkie

            No she doesn’t.

          • Sally

            If she wants strangers to believe her she does.

          • Storm Junkie

            I believe her.

          • Sally

            It’s not worth anything.

          • Storm Junkie

            You might want to consider that believing has resulted in Cosby losing his career and reputation. He wasn’t arrested and criminally charged because no one believed.

          • Sally

            Cosby’s career was actually behind him in his old age. He was just keeping busy. Get back to me if Steele ever gains a conviction. He listened to people like you and got a mistrial.

          • Storm Junkie

            You’re only fooling yourself. Cosby was in the middle of trying to make a come back when he was exposed. Steele listened to what Bill had to say when he decided to charge him criminally.

          • Sally

            I said mr. low iq he was keeping busy. Some people like to work during their retirement and actually accomplish things instead of accomplishing nothing

          • Storm Junkie

            Saying he was “keeping busy” was your way of side stepping the truth. Cosby was in the middle of his “Far From Finished” stand up tour, a Netflix special and a planned NBC sitcom.
            The Willful ignorance you wear on your sleeve looks good on you.

          • Sally

            He was keeping busy. The best was behind him and over. Not every is as lazy as you.

          • Storm Junkie

            What do the defamation per se suits Cosby filed say he lost?
            I just drank my second cup of coffee and am leaving for a fall festival where I will be required to walk on uneven ground. Any tips on where I should trip and fall to sue for the most money?

          • Sally

            It doesn’t say they ruined his career. It says they caused him to lose money with their accusations. And it actually slowed down Netflix momentum since the streaming companies are trying to outdo networks. It’s been exiting, an experiment into 21st century new form of media the way the ipod changed the movie industry. It’s like Benjamin Franklin retiring at the age of 40 and going on to found a new country. You’re stuck in the 20th century so you are incapable of understanding.

          • Storm Junkie

            Why would Bill need more money if he’s 80, has half a million in the bank and his career is behind him? Maybe he’s just trying to use the legal system and his wealth to bully and punish the women.

          • Sally

            Why the heck do it for free? No one else is. Just because someone is wealthy doesn’t mean they can’t continue to make money. That’s why you’re poor and he’s rich. Get a better financial manager.

          • Storm Junkie

            He says he enjoys it. Why continue to take $80 from every one of his fans that come to see him? When I was a recreational fisherman I treated people to fishing because I enjoyed their enthusiasm and was giving them something they couldn’t afford to do themselves, I didn’t take their money.
            Cosby doesn’t care about his fans and couldn’t possibly spend all the money he has at 80. He should be giving the money back to the people he duped into believing he was Cliff Huxtable. You can see now that he’s been exposed for what he is how much money the public would have given him.

          • Sally

            It’s why he’s rich and you’re poor. And he’s given away millions; donated millions. He’s a good business and you’re not. He’s have a lot richer if he hadn’t cared to provide thousands with a college education everyone now needs to obtain good employment in the 21st century.

          • Storm Junkie

            The people that have the most are the best at taking it away from others.
            If people would have known what Bill Cosby was doing they would have never given him one dime of their hard earned money.
            He didn’t provide thousands with college educations either. He donated money to have buildings built with his wife’s name on them to make up to her for being a philandering pig while he was on the road.

          • Sally

            It’s good business. You’d give it away. And yes, they both paid for college educations and guest what junkie? Campuses need buildings. In fact he paid TS education after she called him after what, 20 years.

          • Storm Junkie

            It’s typical behavior for men that get caught cheating on their wives to try to make it up to them before the cycle of abuse starts again.

            He made a deal that he would give TS 500 dollars for each A she received.

          • Sally

            Why are you 3 times married junkie? Worry about your own behavior before you lose your 3rd and stay out of other people’s marriages.

          • Storm Junkie

            You should take a look at yourself and wonder why you live alone and stop worrying about me. No woman in her right mind would stay with a man that drugged women and cheated on her repeatedly for 50 years.

          • Sally

            I live alone because I choose to, it has it’s benefits. I’m not needy. Already been married and nothing can top. I unlike like being alone with myself. You can’t stank being alone with yourself so why would anyone in their right mind want to be alone with you.

            What makes you think her marriage is any of your business? Worry about the 3 of yours.

          • Storm Junkie

            You live alone because you think you’re better than everyone else and you aren’t.
            You haven’t taken care of yourself and health wise you’re a mess. You can’t navigate a sidewalk without falling down and when you do fall have to call 911 for help.

          • Sally

            I’m doing quit well junkie. There are advantages to living alone. And I’m free to do what I like. Unlike you I don’t have to depend on the ACA. I have superior, the best healthcare coverage. All you’re doing is putting a curse on you and your descendants. The sins of the father are visited on the children up to the 3rd generation. That’s a truth in life.

          • keke

            Obviously you have a thorn in the side with rich people, Storm.

          • Storm Junkie

            I have a problem with people that are obviously guilty being able to use their wealth to avoid justice.

          • keke

            No your jealous of wealthy people.
            There are many non wealthy people that are able to succeed because it helps to know the system.

          • Passing Through

            Fans? In venues of 2700 they were lucky to get 1200. A lot were $10 selloffs, some were paid shills to beef up attendance. His comeback tour was a wash. Some promoters just ate the loss and cancelled him.

          • TheVeluptuousWilmaFingerdew

            and inside the venues there were statistically how many genuine survivors of sexual assault offering standing ovations to Dr Cosby? More then the 3-4 protesters standing across the street by the garbage dumpsters hoping for a photo op

          • Truth Teller

            LOL!!

          • keke

            What about his kids? They don’t deserve to enjoy the materials of the Cosby name?

          • Storm Junkie

            400 million isn’t enough?

          • keke

            Yes it is but you talked like that should go to other people.

          • Truth Teller

            “400 million isn’t enough?” His offspring for generations to come can’t be taken care of? What kind of logic..?

          • Storm Junkie

            I’m a lot richer than Bill Cosby. I still have my self respect. If you gave me his 400 million I wouldn’t take it if his reputation came with it.

          • Sally

            Yet you count his money, you can’t stop talking about his money.

          • Storm Junkie

            I only talk about his money when he uses the legal system to punish anyone that threatens him because he can afford to.

          • Kathy Harrington

            Who?

          • Sally

            You talk about his money because you’re envious. And it’s everyone else threatening him.

          • Storm Junkie

            I have more than I need Sally. The only people threatening him are the women he took advantage of and then called liars instead of owning what he had done.

          • Sally

            Yet you’re always talking about other people’s money.

          • keke

            What??

          • keke

            As you said: a “comeback”.
            Coming back from something he had done before.
            A comeback from what he already had. He wanted some again. But you all felt he should’ve stayed down and out of the way so this was done.

        • Sally

          Of course there’s evidence. Both TS and AC admitted they accepted pills and chose to ingest them.

          • Storm Junkie

            Sorry but I don’t consider an authority figure like Bill Cosby standing over TS and AC insisting they ingest pills they didn’t ask for and don’t necessarily want ingesting pills consensually. Bill implying that you don’t trust him if you don’t take them and not being truthful about their identity doesn’t equal them taking them willingly.

          • Sally

            Cease with the authority figure. They were both adults who answered to no one. I’m not buying they were 10 year olds and mentally disabled as portray them to be.

          • Storm Junkie

            I think it’s safe to say that Bill was the person acting irresponsibly by passing out sedatives that were either illegal to share or lying about the pills identity and then waiting until these women were sedated to have sex with them. They thought he was Bill Cosby and didn’t know he was a serial sexual predator.
            Did we blame Ted Bundy’s victims for their murders because they should have know better than to trust a stranger?

          • Sally

            How many women did you buy a drink and later had sex with? By your logic every man who bought a drink for a woman and later had sex with them is a rapist.

            You admitted you’re an illegal drug user.

            They’d have been alive if they’d known better to trust strangers. They put themselves in danger.

            He was bill cosby fool. So what. Emancipated adults don’t do what their parents tell them to do. Heck, many parents have difficulty getting their unemancipated teenagers to do what they tell. The first word learned is actually no in sign language. You have an obtuse and illogical argument.

            Prove it.

          • Storm Junkie

            I only buy drinks for women I am romantically involved with.
            Consent would have eliminated the need for using sedatives. Bill used the pills to eliminate the need for consent.
            Young people in the presence of trusted father figures they consider friends shouldn’t be in any danger.
            Bill brought the drugs to the party, Bill supplied the danger and should be held accountable. The public has already done their part.

            The stories were published and Bill Cosby finished. There’s nothing left to prove.
            The ball’s in Bill’s court.

          • Sally

            Whether you’re romantically involved or not you’ve given them a drug that lowers inhibitions and had sex with them. By your logic that makes you a rapist. He’s keeping busy writing for shows. I’d wager you didn’t know he’s also a writer.

            LOL! He’s 80 years old Many elderly performers with their careers behind them come to work every once in a while. It doesn’t affect what their real career was behind them/

          • Storm Junkie

            Drinking together and having consensual sex is totally legal. Of course you wouldn’t know that living alone.
            We can all write for shows if we don’t have one. Most of what Bill has been given credit for wasn’t written by him.

          • Sally

            I had one great marriage for decades that ended in death did us part. I’m not needy, choose to live alone. You can never have what I had because you’re a serial wedder. Living alone has its advantages. Marrying repeatedly means you can’t stand you can’t stand your own company and you’re needy. You drink, you’re under the influence. And it’s no different if you’re romantically involved, provided the drug alcohol and have sex with her if she’s incapacitated, stumbling, falling, vomiting, falling asleep, that’s rape. That’s called acquaintance rape. You don’t have the high ground over anything.

          • Storm Junkie

            Millions of people share cocktails everyday and have consensual sex.
            My wife and I have never been romantic while incapacitated.

            “incapacitated, stumbling, falling, vomiting, falling asleep, that’s rape.”
            That pretty much sums it up an Bill stayed patient and sober in an effort to pursue his hobby.

          • keke

            Reading your posts supposedly explaining the women and their situations makes them look SOoooo weak. So very weak.

            It’s just…every time you talk like this its a joke. Monotonous and Like you are typing this off of a board/script with absolutely NO feeling and emotion there whatsoever. You are just “penny-posting”. Very robotic.

            Like this isn’t real even to you.

            You a H1B1 visa person? Customer service?

          • Storm Junkie

            I talk like this because rapists are the reason people get raped.
            Wake up keke. Cosby is a sexual predator that used drugs and his celebrity to have sex with women. You don’t have to be the last person to figure this out.
            If you want to make a lot of money I can get you in with Bernie Madoff.

          • keke

            No. You talk like that as if your following orders.

            Im making some extra right now.

            Your mad at this man making all this money. Stable lifetime marriage. Having so many white women its burning your hide up.

            Its ok. Calm down.

          • Storm Junkie

            Stable lifetime marriage? That’s a joke. Cosby liked his women light skinned but not necessarily white. If you were young and pretty you were getting the pill.

          • keke

            And Camille is dark, Storm?

            Smh.

            Here have you a beer.

          • Oxy

            No, Camomile is light and pretty, and young when he married her.

          • KillerKoala

            How much do you make per post? Do you get an annual salary? Or just big gifts like a boat just “drops” in your driveway from a “friend”?

    • Sally

      You clearly don’t know what a true friend is.

  • Scott S.

    Duplicitous moderators: Unless I’ve violated your Discussion Guidelines, your deleting my comments only demonstrates that you are participating in a media conspiracy against Cosby. History will frown on you and your poor standards.

    I wrote,

    Good for Maxine!

    The public doesn’t even know why Cosby was in the courtroom, much less why he’s going back.
    When asked why he made the decision to go forward with a trial with ZERO LEGAL BASIS for taking up the taxpayers’ money, Judge O’Neill said, “I don’t have to give my reasons.” No media comment on that.

    In court it was established that Andrea Constand is a liar. Does she tell little, insignificant lies that evil people capitalize on? No, she tells deliberate, monstrous lies – the kind that get innocent men thrown into prison for 30 years or more. Why doesn’t lying work against her? Because the public’s just as dumbed-down as the media wants us to be. Because all mob mentality requires in order to excuse dangerous lies is an “expert” to take the stand and tell us that lying is a “consequence of rape”. If Andrea says she was raped, you must accept that, or else be branded “The Reason Women Get Raped”. Virtually nothing else Andrea says can be trusted, explains the expert to the morons on the jury, except that she was raped. Andrea’s said the magic words that excuse lying.

    So far, out of 59 accusations, the media hasn’t fact-checked even one. Cosby’s accusers insist we drop our reasoning standards and act on gut reaction only. My gut reaction is ALWAYS to believe an
    accusation that upsets me. But I don’t reason with my gut, and can’t respect a media insisting that I do. The Cosby scandal is historically the first time the media has turned directly to social media for cues on how to play a story, and all we’re seeing is entertainment for a sewer of stupid minds.

    When I was sexually assaulted in my teens, the message CALL FOR HELP wasn’t in my head at all. It’s now 2017, and the next kid like me who gets f’d up the b by a predator, will not have that message in his head. Cosby’s accusers need you to forget about POLICE REPORTS and RAPE KITS, because those subjects work against the scenario they’re selling to a crowd whose reasoning
    standards are identical to those that got Sarah Goode burnt at the stake in 1692 – because of many accusations with “eerily similar” details.

    Meanwhile, your kids are getting sexually assaulted, and not grasping the Vital Importance of Using the Tools at Their Disposal to Obtain Justice, only because you love your daily dirt, and the media will stoop to any level to keep you engaged.

    (Not even looking at replies. Thanks for reading my post.)

  • KillerKoala

    Do you notice that nobody cares about the Cosby fiasco anymore but Storm Junkie and Jessie? They are still commenting on every article about Cosby to make them all believers. Is there anyone new here? No? Didn’t think so.

  • Jessie

    So there’s a user on here who’s totally abusing disqus’ time and money. Sucks. I know. There’s probably better ways to spend 15 minutes of your Sunday. Sigh. But do it anyway. Report the fool. They can see he’s a frequent flyer, so escalate your concern. Get a case number and start an email chain. He’s complained about everyone who doesn’t agree with him. He’s forced comments to be removed simply because he doesn’t like the commenter or what they say. That’s a system issue. Escalate it. Get eyes on it. What he’s doing is targeted harassment and yes, it requires you to use valuable time from your day in order to combat his targeted harassment but please, everyone, highlight what he’s doing.

    • Passing Through

      Talk to Brandy. She’s friends with Killer.

      • KillerKoala

        I thought Brandy was who Jessie was talking about. She’s psycho.

    • KillerKoala

      Reported for harassment

    • Oxy

      Can you explain how to do that? How does one get a case number? Who do we report him to? Everything I’ve read says that Disqus stays out of it, and we need to contact the moderator. But I don’t know who that is.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me
      • Jessie

        If you complain to disqus you get a case number. It’s in a freak’n email. Like a header. A subject line. I don’t know how to help you on beyond that just figure it the eff out.

        • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

          https://twitter.com/SenBobCorker/status/917045348820049920
          Senator Corker’s hilarious tweet responding to Trump’s attempt to humiliate him.

          • Jessie

            Ha!!!! Omg! I missed that!! It’s so true!!! Whatever nanny was supposed to be watching Trump was totally caught taking a smoke break!!

        • KillerKoala

          Thanks I’ll be sure to return the favor. 🙂

        • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

          Yep, and it will be obvious when Disqus sees that Adam is harassing you. Not engaging with him is best. He has some serious issues that are far worse than his targeted abuse towards you. It’s just a symptom and he is acting out. Maybe it’s his cries for help or attention because of his serious porn addiction. His job may want to check his computer history to see how he is wasting their time and money. Feel sorry for his wife, family to have to live with him. Can you imagine?!

          • KillerKoala

            Didn’t you embarrass yourself enough in Atlanta? Talk about wasted time and money. At least I’m not travelling to harass old men. Can you imagine?!

          • keke

            “At least I’m not travelling to harass old men. ”

            Rotflmbo!!!
            You just summed up these women.
            1 nursing home chasing down another. Maybe they’re trying yo get Cosby in a home.
            Hahahahaha

          • Jessie

            No I can’t imagine!! I would have cancelled JW’s phone by now! And if he was ignoring his own daughter because some chick on the internet was distracting him, oh boy there’d be some h e double hockey sticks to pay!!!

    • keke

      Shutup

      (Snicker)

  • keke

    Oh?

    “Bill Cosby is accused of defying justice by refusing to hand over key documents to his victims who are suing the disgraced comedian for defamation over their sexual assault claims”(daily mail)

    The date said oct 9 of this year

    • FiddleRox

      What ‘documents’ is Cosby allegedly refusing to hand over? Is it his old/used toilet paper? For this being a defamation case these women certainly need a ton of things from Cosby in their pathetic attempts to try to prove he defamed them.

      • keke

        I mean… Its like why beg so much? Calm down.
        I see wht they still on him. To keep in folks minds negative press about him. Simmering it in people’s minds trying to make it a real permanent thing. But no.

      • KillerKoala

        It sounds like they don’t have any evidence and they need Cosby to condemn himself in order to win. It’s a sinking ship and everybody should get off before it goes under.

        • keke

          i mean…they need to. Get off yall. If Tamara wants to stay on let her. She’s an atty let her figure it all out.

    • Sally

      This is about his 5th amendment rights. Tamara Green knows this. Cosby can invoke his 5th Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination. If Cosby were to produce documents in the civil case he would waive his 5th amendment rights and Steele could use any of those documents at trial. He must be acquitted, if he’s convicted and appeals it continues, if there are mistrial’s they must wait until time expires. Their frustration is due to criminal charges. They can ask AC to refuse to testify if they like.

      • keke

        Yes. Even Someone else commented that the article folks should look up 5th amendment rights just as you said.

        • Sally

          He was correct. They’re just increasing their own legal fees.

          • keke

            Smh. Oh boy.

            I really wonder how long atty’s go with a case IF they are pro bono? They just let it sit for however long?

          • Sally

            Upto the attorney.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me

    There is plenty of blame to go around but, make no mistake, the person who commits the crime is the one to blame. https://www.thecut.com/2017/10/im-a-coward.html?utm_campaign=thecut&utm_source=tw&utm_medium=s1

    • FiddleRox

      What ‘crime’ had been committed within the story told by that author? Is a man flirting and asking questions now a crime in your shallow mind? You must really be that self centered and selfish and that low of a person to suggest such things.

      Btw, the only ‘coward’ in that story was the person telling that story!

      • KillerKoala

        I agree, she just got in an awkward situation and didn’t know how to handle it. He flirted, she didn’t know what to do so she left. Nothing wrong there.

        • Storm Junkie

          It’s battery to grab and hold someone that doesn’t want to be touched.
          You keep your hands to yourself.

          • KillerKoala

            For it to be battery, it must be unlawful, offensive or cause a bodily injury. For it to be sexual battery, you have to touch an intimate body part. Putting a hand on ones shoulder doesn’t count as battery. It’s inconvenient/awkward at best.

          • Storm Junkie

            Grabbing and holding isn’t putting your hand on someone’s shoulder.

          • FiddleRox

            And yet the author of the story was able to turn and look at him. She wasn’t nearly as restrained as you choose to believe.

            Still not one of you shills has answered the following questions:

            Where in that authors story did that man attempt to cause her bodily harm? Where did she proclaim that he threatened her or her career? When did he continue flirting with her after she declined his advances (flirts) and walked away?

          • Storm Junkie

            You can still turn your head when your shoulders are being held estupido. The unwanted sexual advances were brushed aside and the powerful man knew she didn’t want anything to do with him. It should have ended there. He should have never grabbed and held her. If you did that to me I would be forced to defend myself.
            She isn’t saying he did anything criminal. She said she was a coward for not reporting it.

          • FiddleRox

            Oh dear El Stupido. There simply was no crime committed by that authors story! No matter how hard you try to suggest there was you only succeed at showing yourself for what you are…. and it ain’t something nice.

            What was to report? She was in no danger. He didn’t harm her.

            I agree that she was a coward, however, She was a coward for not simply telling him that she wasn’t interested.

          • Storm Junkie

            He didn’t ask her to dinner and “This is my worst nightmare ” is a “not interested” Fibbles.
            He made unwanted sexual advances that she rejected and then grabbed and held her as she was leaving the room.
            She said he didn’t do anything criminal but she was a coward for not telling anyone. She was a coward because she was afraid that saying something would come back on her and have a negative affect on her career.
            The point being, it was the powerful man in the room that was out of line and she fully understood why men like Weinstein, Cosby and Ailes were able to get away with what they were doing for so long. It’s easy to be a coward when you could lose everything by saying something. Beth Ferrier knows.
            She’s just lucky the powerful man didn’t have seven prescriptions of Quaaludes and offer her a drink.

          • FiddleRox

            Guess what, DUMBA$$…….. SHE WALKED AWAY and went home unharmed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            CLUELESS IDIOT!!!!!!

          • FiddleRox

            The clueless retard will argue like the dumba$$ that he is. He’ll show his ignorance and then delete his account for the umteenth time. Cause he’s a coward.

          • keke

            Im just….just..tired.
            Tired of always hearing the excuse is “didn’t want to lose my job.”

            Now yes there is importance there. To a degree tho. Getting felt up and flirted withis NOTHING compared to a total rape or having yourhead shoved down for a “service” or getting forced into a “rear ending”.

            Now I’ll say if the victim is someone who has some things to lose THEN i can understand the not speaking. I can see that.

            For me if you just started something/somewhere you don’t have anything to lose but to gain.

          • FiddleRox

            Battery is concerned with the right to have one’s body left alone by others.

            Battery is both a tort and a crime. Its essential element, harmful or offensive contact, is the same in both areas of the law. The main distinction between the two categories lies in the penalty imposed. A defendant sued for a tort is civilly liable to the plaintiff for damages. The punishment for criminal battery is a fine, imprisonment, or both. Usually battery is prosecuted as a crime only in cases involving serious harm to the victim.

            Elements
            The following elements must be proven to establish a case for battery: (1) an act by a defendant; (2) an intent to cause harmful or offensive contact on the part of the defendant; and (3) harmful or offensive contact to the plaintiff.

            See how wrong and uneducated you are?

          • Storm Junkie

            It’s my belief that she thought the grab was offensive contact.

          • FiddleRox

            Of course that’s your injection into what she wrote in her story. That’s your MO. You inject your own beliefs and idiotic ideas into what others say or write and you believe your injections are facts. It’s what you do!

          • Jessie

            I’m so glad society is now seeing the bigger, true, picture. The keke’s and Fibbles are being kicked to the curb as ancients. Their ignorance needs to be coddled. There there little old keke, there there little fat fibbles… I could tell stories about how you all failed decades ago and continue to fail in the face of bravery. This isn’t going away. Things are changing nimrods, best get used to it.

          • FiddleRox

            Yep. You’re right. Things are changing and the ‘nimrods’ of the world (meaning fools and morons like you) are taking over. You’re just too stupid to see that what you are after and what you are changing the world into isn’t going to be what you think it will be. When those who are leading these changes and getting you sheeples to do their bidding for them you will be thrown to the curbside. You will be treated like the dissidents that you are. Seriously, you should watch what you ask for. You won’t like what you get in the end.

          • Jessie

            Oh oh! Is that what you see? I truly hope you’re not a part of any majority!

          • FiddleRox

            The problem isn’t whether or not that I am part of any majority. The problem is that you think you are. The problem is that you believe that you are fighting for things you believe that you believe is good for society. The problem is that you lack the foresight to understand and see that what you believe is good is in fact not!

          • Jessie

            well, I argue and fight for what’s what I think is right. If ever that doesn’t make traction I guess I’ll maybe need to look at that. I’ll make a note if that in case it’s needed.

          • FiddleRox

            Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies.

            Like I said, you simply don’t have the foresight to understand and see that what you believe is good is in fact not! Blind is blind!

          • keke

            Or maybe Messy wants the evil to come.

            On other boards I’ve read comments on i see why Messy believes people are swaying the way ‘she’ thinks. Some of them are. They get all hyped up to and believe every accusation and bash others that don’t
            However many other people see right thru the thinly veiled wall of triumph these people think is going on.
            The wall isn’t durable. It lacks depth and substance. Needs real material to make it a REAL stronghold.

            What they have is fickle. Short term. Needs substance.

            Its not wrong to call out wrongdoings but some situations are NOT good to accept as a “better late than never” scenario.

            Being very late can be just as equal as never happening at all.

          • FiddleRox

            I agree with you. That glass house they are building is quite fragile. When it cracks and breaks and comes crashing down they will be victims of their own demise. They are undoubtedly building that glass house without a foundations. It will sink into a hole as the ground they chose is like sandstone.

            Their problem, their weakness, is that they conflate too many things into their arguments. They don’t look into the future. They give no thought to what the end result will be. They only see what they want to see and they want what they want in the here and now. Their arguments and ideologies are weak and flimsy.

            You’re absolutely right. How can they claim they are about preventing rape from happening when they offer no solution other than to abolish the sol’s which does nothing to prevent rapes from occurring? All it allows is a person to make claims years, even decades, after the alleged fact. That allows evidence to be lost that would prove that a crime had actually occurred. It allows for false claims to more easily be made. It worsens when they demand that these accusers be believed at their word alone. This is asinine. It has no thought to it. It works against logic and reason. All it is is a vehicle to redistribute money (wealth) from men to women. It also has the potential to transfer power from those they are targeting to people that shouldn’t have that kind of power.

          • keke

            Very much. Good points.
            It helps create more victims than necessary( including myself and others close to you like a daughter).

            I like how you said their idea’s will sink. It will. It’s flimsy.
            Hollow.

          • Storm Junkie

            Isn’t it great. Cosby started the ball rolling and the momentum has carried over. He wasn’t the only powerful man taking advantage of women but the way he went about it was much worse. There’s no excuse for anyone intentionally drugging anyone.
            At least Harvey finally admitted when cornered that he was sick and his wife had enough self respect to walk away from the mess.
            The Cosby’s might wish now that they would have handled it differently.

          • Jessie

            I’m not sure I agree with you. Harvey was more overt. Cosby, well, he had to play around chemically more than Weinstein to get the same results. Weinstein wasn’t above using his bulk and aggressiveness to get his desired outcome. Cosby didn’t have the b a els so he used drugs. Same impact though, how freak’n brave are the women!! I’m with you on that.

          • Storm Junkie

            It’s hard to know the details with Harvey when most of the accusers were paid off. There were a lot of people that knew both men were sexually assaulting and harassing women. Harvey by intimidation and Bill with drugs.
            I see a lot of similarities between both of the men and how they were able to access their victims. I still fault Cosby for taking away their ability to resist.

          • keke

            All this bravery and how many of the nen are in jail?

            Ok next best how many are bankrupt?

            All these years, all these men with what ‘really’ to show for it?

            (Im naming these folks whether i agree with them or not but Get the point)
            Clarence Thomas?
            Bill Clinton?
            Bill Oreilly?
            Roger Ailes?
            Donald Trump?
            Charlie Sheen?
            R. Kelly?
            Usher?

            …..i don’t need to put down anymore names.

            What you guys have to understand is that this is America.
            All the hootin and hollering about public opinion and how it’s sooo important like it reigns supreme, however in this country people are VERY very forgiving.
            Yes i put Ailes on there because even after the runoff from Fox he was an advisor or so for Trump. He also recieved more money to step away than Gretchen did.

            Look at your man OJ. Gets released and still Gets mad love.

            Yea. These women are making noise and standing in their kind of truth but what about substance?
            Where is the outcry of trying to keep Harvey at home so he doesn’t pull a Polanski or “off” himself?
            Thought he was finally being brought to justice, Storm?

          • Storm Junkie

            It’s sad but it appears there is no real justice for wealthy celebrities. Cosby can afford to play the game until he dies. Harvey covered it up by paying settlements.

          • keke

            Yes and then this popped off.
            People have talked about the timing of this. I hope this didn’t burst out because of an expectation of more money from Harvey just because he settled with others but we’ll see how this goes.

            This scandal of accusations, tho im not agreeing with all, is a LOT stronger than with Cosby. Much more. It’s not just the (alleged) perp being called out its EVERYONE else that had ties to him too.
            Good!

          • Storm Junkie

            In my opinion drugging women and then raping them is as bad as it gets.

          • Jessie

            I’ve noticed an odd trend with Duhfenders, many of them believe the allegations against Weinstein and that he “confessed” to the crime! Cosby admitted to procuring sedatives for the young women he had his eyeball on, his own words are more damning, but Harvey admitted to being sick and having anger issues and addiction while maintaining the s3x was consensual, and Duhfenders believe Weinstein to be guilty but not Cosby. How much of it has to do with skin colour I wonder, they’re always talking about it and I dismiss it, but maybe it actually affects their perception? It blows my mind that these people believe women who admit they could have resisted but didn’t. Yet they don’t believe the women who say that wasn’t even an option, they couldn’t raise an arm to fight even if they wanted to.

            So weird!

          • Storm Junkie

            Weinstein didn’t confess and immediately adopted the standard issue, consensual sex defense his attorney suggested. Because he was so overt his inner circle knew he had a problem and had been paying women settlements to “keep the peace” so he had to own up to his obsession with sex, infidelity and being a world class liar.

            In my opinion the race card the defenders cling to is an act of desperation handed to them by Monique Presley and Brian Mcmonagle because there was never any defense for Cosby and what he was doing. Bill’s attorneys were setting themselves up for the end game and jury selection.

          • FiddleRox

            Except, and you seem to either lack the knowledge of or you are just shooting off at the mouth, Weinstein did admit that he grabbed a woman’s breast.

            https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/10/harvey-weinstein-audio-tape

          • Storm Junkie

            Cosby admitted sticking his hand in Andrea’s pants and grabbing hers after giving her pills. He also admitted giving sedatives to women he wanted to have sex with.

          • FiddleRox

            Do you understand the differences? Of course you don’t.

          • Storm Junkie

            Harvey pulled a Cosby Helen Hayes type move on the young girl. We have a president that admits this type of behavior.
            Cosby drugged Andrea into oblivion and had sex with her while barely conscious. Neither one had consent. Both are world class liars.

          • FiddleRox

            Clearly you don’t understand the differences and me trying to explain it to you would be futile and fruitless.

            So now Cosby “drugged Andrea into oblivion”???? How much further can you EXAGGERATE Andrea’s claims? THIS is why you have no respect! You’re an idiot and a liar!

          • Storm Junkie

            You claiming it would be futile is your way of saying you can’t. Not sure why you think you can call anyone a liar Quincy.

          • FiddleRox

            You’re an idiot! You know I can I simply refuse to play your stupid, whiny, little games! I have been dealing with your belligerence and incessant babbling for more than two years. Why would you be reasonable now and accept any explanation when you never have before?

            ‘Quincy’? ROFLMFAO….. That never gets old. You are still pissy because I know things that you don’t! Keep crying that river Dave. Keep being the dumba$$ that you are. It’s all you know how to do anyway.

          • Oxy

            The Duhfenders were very disdainful of Donna Barrett who alleges Cosby came up from behind, grabbed her around the waist, saying, “back that thing up” and rubbed his privates against her butt. Their attitude was big deal, what is she complaining about, he only blah, blah blah.

          • FiddleRox

            Ummm, we seen the picture and it didn’t show a thing that Ms Barrett claimed it showed.

          • Oxy

            Oh, so she must be lying, then. Bill Cosby would never do anything like that. And if he did, it was only “flirting”.

          • FiddleRox

            She absolutely is lying! She’s one of the obvious liars! She wasn’t sexually assaulted! Plain and simple!

          • Oxy

            She said he grabbed her around the waist, she recounted what he said and did. There is an effing picture of the moment it started. And you are calling her an “obvious liar”. You truly are hopeless. Don’t talk to me anymore.

          • FiddleRox

            Here’s a link to the image that Donna Barrett claims shows her being sexually assaulted: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/10/23/21/2DB63BA900000578-0-image-a-33_1445632171991.jpg

            There is absolutely NOTHING in that image that shows this woman was in the midst of being sexually assaulted. So what if Cosby grabbed her waste and said ‘back that thing up’? So what if he was flirting with her? Flirting is NOT a crime (except to you moronic witches)!

            But you people just so desperately need to grasp at anything and everything because you don’t have a single case without piling on retarded accusation after retarded accusation!!!!!!

          • Oxy

            “So what if Cosby grabbed her waste and said ‘back that thing up’? So what if he was flirting with her?”

            You said she was “obviously lying”.
            Now that has been downgraded to “so what”?
            I’ll tell you what. I want to be able to stand and watch a track meet without some mole covered married grandfather grabbing me from behind and breathing his cigar breath on my neck while he rubs his pudding pop against my butt.
            Can I do that? Can I go out in public without strange men putting their hands on me?
            Or am I simply “lucky” I was not gang raped in a park at knifepoint and shut-up about it, not speak of it?
            The reason there is “accusation after accusation” is because Cosby assaulted (to varying degrees) so many women.

          • FiddleRox

            She is obviously lying! She was NOT sexually assaulted!

            They were gathering for a photo op, DUMBA$$!!! Cosby was trying to get her into a position for a better photo. Maybe he flirted a little with her. BIG WHOOP!

            Is every person on a subway train sexually assaulted if/when someone accidentally bumps them? I think NOT! But you seem to think they are. You’re that big of an IDIOT!!!!!!!!

          • Oxy

            Women (and men) know the difference between being accidentally bumped and groped, dunce.

          • FiddleRox

            And women have lied about being raped and groped too! DUNCE!!!!

          • Storm Junkie

            Exactly. It’s only a big deal if someone other than Cosby does it.

          • FiddleRox

            WRONG again Sherlock! It’s about assessing the evidence! Unfortunately not a single one of the women who accused Cosby has provided a thing that shows they are being truthful.

          • Storm Junkie

            Just for the record, the evidence has been assessed and the public decided Cosby was guilty when the deposition excerpts were released in 2015. In my opinion he is more guilty than Harvey for intentionally drugging his victims so they wouldn’t be able to resist.

          • FiddleRox

            Sorry but YOU don’t speak for the public. For that matter the public doesn’t supersede the law!!!! This is just you doing the only thing that you do! That being flapping at the gums and spitting out BS!

            Too bad for you that your ‘opinion’ doesn’t mean jack squat!

          • Storm Junkie

            The public speaks for itself. Cosby’s done.
            They made Cosby, they can tear him down.
            He’s nothing without the support of the public.

          • FiddleRox

            Then why don’t you stop pretending like you speak for the public when you don’t know what the public thinks? Just because you and a few nutjobs think what you think you don’t represent the public! Nor does those organizations that you like to mention speak for the public!

          • Storm Junkie

            Educational institutions, the US Navy, NBC, Netflix, Bill’s agent and all of his sponsors are supported and employ members of the public. Which way did they lean when this all came down? They know what the public thinks.

          • FiddleRox

            Blah blah blah blah blah….. Are you that big of an idiot that you let those organizations speak for you? Most people don’t! People with common sense don’t let organizations speak for them.

            “Which way did they lean when this all came down? ”

            That’s a stupid question. They leaned to the side they thought would make their image look better. They leaned to the side they thought would hurt their bottom lines the least! It’s about putting on an image! It has nothing to do with what’s right! And NO they don’t know what the public thinks! They try to dictate to the public as to what they want the public to think! It’s called business! But that’s something you know nothing about!

          • Sally

            They leaned on self preservation from the mob.

          • Storm Junkie

            The mob being the court of public opinion that has seen all the evidence.

          • Sally

            No it hasn’t. You haven’t seen 4 of Constand’s statements to authorities, nor her 2 days of depositions, nor the transcript of the trial, nor her phone records and more.

          • Storm Junkie

            We know that for some reason Cosby doesn’t want us to see any more while Andrea asked that it all be made public. What we have seen points to serial rapist and Cosby is done.

          • Sally

            She signed an NDA and she’s being held to it. You appear to think that a settlement agreement requires only one party to agree to it. Cosby is a blind 80 year old man with his career long behind him. Everything after that was play. Lots of other things to do in this world.

          • Storm Junkie

            A settlement agreement that was made because there is information one side wants to keep hidden. We know which side it is. Cosby’s an old blind man out on bail that doesn’t have a passport married to a woman that’s to afraid and ashamed to go out into public.

          • Sally

            It takes one to offer and one to accept. No one is forced. What do you know about their life? What do you know about their property and their amusements? Nothing.

            You’re wife was stupid enough to marry a two time loser. Turnabout is fair play.

          • Storm Junkie

            Get lost.
            Personal insults are for the weak.

          • Sally

            Turnabout is fair play coward. You criticized Cosby’s wife therefore your wife gets criticized; you brought it on her. By your definition, you are weak. Man up.

          • Storm Junkie

            Wasn’t it Camille that feared for her safety when she had to sit for a deposition? Don’t you think she’s ashamed that everywhere she goes people wonder why she stays with a man that did nothing but disrespect her and their marriage vows every chance he got. She can’t be proud.

          • Sally

            She didn’t fear anything; she excreted her legal rights. Wasn’t it you wife who married a man incapable of keeping his marriage vows? You clearly don’t respect the sanctity of marriage.

          • Storm Junkie

            Flintstones, meet the Flintstones
            They’re the modern Stone Age Family
            From the town of Bedrock
            They’re a page right out of history

          • Oxy

            “she excreted her legal rights.”

            Excreted, lol!
            And the nerve to tell you that YOU don’t respect “the sanctity of marriage”.
            Cosby is cool , because he has never divorced, but you….?

          • Storm Junkie

            Go figure.

          • Sally

            Quoting from cartoons. You’re going to end up in that nursing home sooner than you can imagine.

          • Sally

            You haven’t seen the phone records, nor 4 of her statements to authorities, nor her 2 days worth of deposition therefore you haven’t seen everything.

          • Sally

            He’s 80 years old. The most done was tie him up in litigation.

          • Storm Junkie

            I’m pretty sure he doesn’t like what happened to his reputation and legacy. It’s been reported that more than anything he valued the respect he garnered.

          • Sally

            It won’t matter soon. He’s on his way out. Just as harvey hasn’t had power for awhile. Miramax has long since lost its power.

            It also wouldn’t be the first celebrity destroyed by lies either.

            In harvey’s case there are distinctions between applicants, employees and those he propositioned. Sexual harassment is related to applicants and/or employees. And it has to be recurring. What’s interesting is that most if not all started in the hotel/bar of the hotel.

          • Sally

            The mistrial disproves your statement.

          • Storm Junkie

            Cosby’s inability to work and being shunned by everyone that had any association with him is my proof.
            The mistrial just proves that there were people in the jury that still believe in rape myths and the definition of proven beyond a reasonable doubt is still confusing juries.

          • Sally

            Stop falsely accusing. She lied about many things. Their job was to determine whether or not she was credible.

            A lie is enough to destroy a person’s credibility. Lawyers know that juries don’t actually mean they don’t understand what “reasonable” doubt means. They clearly had doubts.

            A nasty person like you has no respect for jurors. Those jurors gave up their lives for virtually no compensation to give to their countries. You have no idea what’s involved in sequestration; it isn’t fun.

          • Sally

            FYI: he hasn’t been shunned by everyone; they’re just keeping low to protect themselves from people like you. If you haven’t noticed you’re posting on a newsvine about Maxine Waters current friendship with Bill Cosby. You don’t get to see his emails, his letters or people’s phone records. You just try to convince yourself that no one’s calling him, emailing him or writing good old fashioned letters.

          • Oxy

            For some of them, it is merely “flirting”.

          • FiddleRox

            And for you jacka$$es you think that ‘flirting’ is equatable to being classified as sexual assault! You should learn the difference!

          • FiddleRox

            Oxy (moron) was asked

            FiddleRox Oxy 21 hours ago
            Then explain the crime that the author supposedly described? Since when is flirting and asking a crime? Please enlighten us to your (not so) brilliant mind and way of thinking.

            Fact is this woman explained an ‘unwanted sexual advance’ (the man flirted with her). She turned the man down and she left. There simply wasn’t a crime committed.

            With that said one must wonder why this flies miles above your head?

            FiddleRox Oxy 18 hours ago
            Sorry. Where in that authors story did that man attempt to cause her bodily harm? Where did she proclaim that he threatened her or her career? When did he continue flirting with her after she declined his advances (flirts) and walked away?

            Still waiting for her explanation. Oxy simply has no answer.

          • Oxy

            That is not “flirting” jackazz. YOU need to learn the difference.

          • FiddleRox

            NO! YOU NEED TO LEARN THE DIFFERNCE! BIOTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • FiddleRox

            I certainly hope and pray that no man or person is ever alone with this evil witch. If they breath Oxy will believe she was sexually assaulted.

          • Oxy

            OK, now the ALL CAPS and the “biotch” stuff is going to start. So predictable. Next it will be PHUQ YOU with 30 exclamation points. Done with you, shut-in. Get out your dictionary and look up “flirt”, loser.

          • FiddleRox

            Oh, sorry. You don’t listen no matter what letter, upper case, lower case, emphases are used. You live in your own little delusional world. Either way it gives you something to whine and b|tch about.

            Why don’t you get out YOUR dictionary and look up the definition of ‘flirt’? BIOTCH! Clearly you don’t know the definition of the word! Clearly you think that if a man makes a ‘pass’ (flirts) at a woman then he committed a crime. Yep. You’re that big of idiot!

          • Oxy

            Flirting and making a pass are 2 different things, lame-brain. Successful flirting proceeds making a pass. Grabbing someone’s private parts, or rubbing your private parts against them is not “making a pass”, it is assault. Now stay the eff away from me, loser biotch.

          • FiddleRox

            Flirting and making a pass at someone is the exact same thing! LAME -BRAIN!

            You really should buy yourself a dictionary!

            make a pass at someone
            to flirt with or suggest sexual activity with someone.

          • Jessie

            Fibbles internal dialogue at a grocery store: “grab her boob! She’ll never know you’re interested if you don’t lunge at her and grab something! Grab the boob! Be bold and grab both!!”

          • FiddleRox

            ^^^ DELUSIONAL! Has no honest bone in her body! And she wonders why people don’t respect her?

          • Jessie

            Who’s the “her” you’re referring to? Oxy? Has she actually wondered “why people don’t respect her?” Seriously?! It’s sort of clear people do (except idgits of course, that’s to be expected) but if she actually wondered that let me know!

          • FiddleRox

            ^^^ Like I said: DELUSIONAL. And now expressing straight up stupidity!

          • Jessie

            Well I guess I’m gonna have to base things on what you posted. 🤡

            Good one Fibbs!

          • FiddleRox

            OH WELL. It’s not like I haven’t based my comments on what you posted! 🤡

          • Jessie

            Oh I’m the “her”! Awesome! It was hard to tell. But post away padowan!

          • FiddleRox

            I don’t need nor permission! Nor did I ask you for it! But when you post BS and lies, as I always have and as I’ve told you numerous times before, I will call you out for it! …..

            If you want people to take you seriously you shouldn’t post such obvious BS and lies. Just sayin’.

          • Jessie

            Well point out the BS and lies then Grasshopper, who’s stopping you?

          • FiddleRox

            This stupid routine again?

            SIGH!!!!

          • Jessie

            So you can’t! If it’s a dysfunction you can totally take a pill. I feel your pain though Fibbs, I’m not making fun of you just totally pitying your inability.

          • FiddleRox

            I guess you truly are going to do this stupid routine again. I guess it’s all you know to do. If you really want to see your BS and lies then scroll up to your comment that you posted at 3:11 PM EDT.

            I, among others, totally pity you and your stupidity. In fact we fear for your well being. We are concerned that someday you will hurt yourself.

          • Jessie

            Oh dear! So hang on for a sec.. you’re saying that when you posted
            FiddleRox
            2 hours ago
            ^^^ DELUSIONAL! Has no honest bone in her body! And she wonders why people don’t respect her?
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            Reply

            you were referring to me? But now you’re saying you care about me? Gotchya Fibbs!

          • FiddleRox

            Are you pretending to be this stupid? If so you are getting a lot of people to believe you are.

          • FiddleRox

            Oh dear. The childish whimpering and stupidity continues. JessDumb is too stupid to know that she is only making a$$of herself………….. SIGH. Then again A$$es are stubborn animals……………….

          • Storm Junkie

            Might be why they all live alone.

          • Sally

            You’re afraid to live alone.

          • jinarvada

            She’s being included in a list of assault victims inappropriately. It’s closer to sexual harassment , not a crime, if it even happened at all, which is still unproven and unprovable.

          • Oxy

            Perhaps get some common sense, learn about mathematical odds, read the women’s stories, compare it to your own experiences?
            Barrett’s experience is indicative of Cosby’s attitude/behavior, sense of privilege.
            I’ve heard some say rape is about power, rather than s e x. I disagree.
            I think it is all about sex, then using power to cover it up/surpress it.
            I agree Barrett’s experience is closer to s e x ual harassment than a crime, but why should she not be allowed to publicly tell her story?
            What is this thing you have for Cosby? Were you big fan of his comedy? Is it because he is black, and you feel he is being targeted by 60 “racist” women (1/3 of whom are black)? Or are the women “gold-diggers”?
            How do you feel about Weinstein’s accusers? Are they gold-diggers? Anti semitic?
            They can’t “prove” their stories either.

          • jinarvada

            Who said she shouldn’t tell her “story?” She can say what ever she pleases. It just doesn’t have any credible evidence to support it and the picture proves nothing. Being included in a list of assault victims when even her own story doesn’t imply there was any assault has nothing to do with mathematical odds. Sexual harassment, even if there is evidence, which there is not in this case, is not rape, but those distinctions are never made. Many of the BC accusers describe either sexual harassment or even unwelcome advances, not rape, but everyone wants to allude to them as “rape victims” to make the situation seem worse than it is, and it shouldn’t even be that bad now because there is no supporting evidence.

            “What is this thing you have for Cosby?”

            I don’t have a thing for Cosby. His show was OK, but I didn’t feel I had to see it every week and toward the end it got overbearing and monotonous. I have a thing for due process, the rule of law and fair reporting, which has not been followed in the Cosby case.

            The absurdity of the statements made by many of his accusers create a cause for pointing out what is legally lacking in their legal claims and requires a review. That’s all

            “How do you feel about Weinstein’s accusers? Are they gold-diggers? Anti semitic?”
            They can’t “prove” their stories either.

            I feel about the same. I also feel the same about tRump’s accusers. What makes his case stand out is his own bragging and admissions that he has spread around himself for the past 30 years. They may be the only one’s who have something that resembles credible evidence: tRump’s own words

          • Oxy

            ‘Many of the BC accusers describe either sexual harassment or even unwelcome advances, not rape, but everyone wants to allude to them as “rape victims” to make the situation seem worse than it is”

            The “situation” is very bad.
            Drugging women with the intent to incapacitate them, whether there is inter course, or not—even if it is “only” molestation, digital penetration—is rape.
            Unless there are video cameras rolling, it is always he said/she said.
            And you believe that the “she’s” are lying because you are so worried that a “he” could be falsely accused.
            60 accusers? They must be lying, and the one man–who we know to be a liar– must be telling the truth. Although Cosby has never actually denied the allegations. Only hides and stalls behind high paid lawyers.
            You feel the same about Weinstein’s accusers–even though Weinstein has not denied it , and his own brother says he isa sick guilty man. Trump? Are you not able to see what a disgusting grotesque man Trump is? But his own words “might” make it possible for you to consider his accusers are telling the truth?
            Do me a favor. Do us both a favor, as I am employing great restraint: Please do not post to me anymore.
            Talk to your (strange) bedfellows: Craig, Keke, Burt, Sally, Fidds.

          • jinarvada

            I’m also tired of the excuse that “it is always he said/she said” as though that is a good reason to just ignore due process and just believe anything an accuser says without evidence of any kind. It is because an accusation is he said/she said that accusers have a responsibility to seek medical attention immediately or reporting to police instead of waiting decades until the time is more convenient.
            But that is never a part of what the accusers want to say to women, is it?

            “60 accusers? They must be lying, and the one man–who we know to be a liar– must be telling the truth.”

            Some of the accusers have already been proven liars in their lives in various ways, especial those previously charged with false reporting of some kind, and others who have changed their stories multiple times.

            “Although Cosby has never actually denied the allegations. Only hides and stalls behind high paid lawyers”

            Back to that old complaint? When he did deny the allegations through his high priced attorneys, the accusers filed ridiculous defamation claims.

            “Trump? Are you not able to see what a disgusting grotesque man Trump is? But his own words “might” make it possible for you to consider his accusers are telling the truth?”

            I know what tRump is and I despise him, for multiple reasons and he is a disgusting, grotesque beast for a variety of unethical and heartless things he does. But yes, his own words do make credible evidence and his accusers are better equipped if they went forward. That is not my fault. It’s what it is. You need to deal with the evidence that is available in each case, not some blanket process that doesn’t fit everything. Get used to that.

            Why don’t you stop posting, since you have no clear understanding of the realities of the law and can’t debate rationally?

          • Oxy

            Unless there is an actual video of an acquaintance rape, no “evidence” will ever be enough for you. Which is why men continue to get away with acquaintance rape and women feel too discouraged to report. Yes, women “should” report, but it is understandable why they don’t with people like you and your Duhfender bedfellows calling them liars. “You people” + “the realities of the law” would make anyone want to hide in their closet.
            I agree to stop posting to you, if you agree to stop posting to me.

          • FiddleRox

            Ummm, IF these women were in fact raped what does it matter if someone calls them a ‘liar’ in a message board forum? That just makes absolutely no logical sense. It’s just something to spit out to excuse away the lack of action by those who ‘should’ have reported the crime ASAP.

            What sense is there in convicting every man who is accused of rape? This appears to be your desire. To convict people without proof and on the word of the accuser alone. You don’t seem to care if innocent people get convicted. This is an asinine ideology!

          • Oxy

            Go away, Fibbs. Done with you.

          • FiddleRox

            Why don’t you practice what you preach and ‘go away’? All you do is run your fat mouth about others then cry like baby, like you just did, when people respond to you! GROW UP!!!

          • jinarvada

            Ho-hum. This again? This excuse that most rapes do not have witnesses. Lots of crimes don’t have witnesses and video. So?

            Let me repeat something I posted before:

            Yes, how weird would it be if all crimes were witnessed or videotaped. It would be much easier to investigate and solve and prosecute all burglaries, robberies, murders and hit and runs. Since that doesn’t happen, we need to rely on strong forensic and documented evidence to back up any statements made by accusers. Which is all the more reason that these accusers’ lack of credible evidence, or even an interest in seeking medical attention at the time their unknown drugging rendered them speechless and incapacitated, is so suspicious. Rape should not be the only crime excused from the need of solid evidence. Right. A murder victim cannot speak for herself or seek to file a criminal report. A “rape” victim has no GOOD reason not to, despite the excuses made by all the fake Rape-victim-trauma advocates. Many crimes and traumatizing events can leave a person with memory problems and PTSD. Rape trauma is not proven to be worse than other kinds.

          • Oxy

            I’m letting you have the last word.
            Can we agree to stop talking to each other now?
            Please?

          • jinarvada

            Nobody asked you.

          • Oxy

            Nobody asked me what?
            You asked me to stop posting, I am offering to stop posting to you if you stop posting to me.
            It is a win/win deal.

          • FiddleRox

            Why don’t you simply not post to those or about those who you can’t handle be confronted by? See, the thing is this IS a public message board and people can respond to your comments whether you like it or not! So I suggest that you stop being a crybaby about people commenting to you. It only shows the true you!

          • Oxy

            No need to repeat.
            You wrote the original 1/2 hour before, lol. I had not forgotten.
            I could pick your paragraph apart sentence by sentence, but what is the point? Where would it get us? Are you not getting tired of this never ending merry-go-round? (You yourself wrote: “Ho-hum. This again?”)
            I am offering you a deal. No more posting to each other on this subject (I added “on this subject” with the hope of sweetening the deal.)

          • jinarvada

            Actually, I wrote the original several weeks ago, but what ev. I’m not the one who has been complaining about this “merry-go-round.” I don’t make deals. You don’t need a deal anyone. If you don’t like my post, don’t respond to it. You can control yourself. Don’t try controlling me.

          • Oxy

            Ok, well, it appears I inadvertently responded to the same post 2X.
            You were the one who suggested I stop posting. Were you trying to “control” me?
            I don’t actually believe you were. I think you were simply being condescending. Rather than be condescending back, I took the high road.

          • jinarvada

            “Why don’t you stop posting, since you have no clear understanding of the realities of the law and can’t debate rationally?”

            I asked you a question. How is that controlling?

          • Oxy

            I said it was not controlling. I said it was condescending.

          • jinarvada

            Well, que sera sera.

          • Oxy
          • Jessie
          • Oxy

            Boiled dinner!

          • FiddleRox

            Notice how when they have no arguments they cry out the demand that others to ‘stop commenting to them’? These people are weak and their arguments are weaker. Oxy even lies through her teeth. She’s been crying at all those who oppose her to stop commenting to her. She can’t handle being opposed.

          • jinarvada

            If she doesn’t like losing the debate, then she should just stay out.

          • Jessie

            Hahahaha! You have a pic with a naked male paddle boarder! Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but the flappy flap flap thing makes me laugh! That can’t feel good! Falling into the water unexpectedly feels totally different for a toned young(ish) gal than it does any person with flappy parts! Oh my gosh I’m dying over here!!

          • Oxy

            That is Orlando Bloom with Katy Perry, I’m telling you!
            Google image Orlando Bloom nude paddle boarding.
            What if Katy who is sitting in front of blooming Orlando while he stands, wants to say something? She is supposed to look over her shoulder and talk to Mr Peabody? Come on!
            Keep your nudity under your clothes.

          • Jessie

            Actually it is a crime. In most jurisdictions, maybe not all. But it certainly confirms stuff about the guy and his behaviour, doesn’t it?

          • jinarvada

            What does it confirm? So far, all it confirms is that Donna Barrett has some cropped up picture of herself standing in front of some men that includes BC with his hands around her waist. There is nothing provably illegal in the picture. What we can see by the implantation of certain select and unsubstantiated bits of information into the public mindset is that this is “evidence” of a sexual harassment moment that included him grinding his pelvis into her. The mind sees what it wants to see.Your supporting comment certainly shows your willingness to accept it and make affirmative statements about his guilt without anything else. Sexual harassment is a civil charge, not a crime.

          • Jessie

            Oh! You’re pretending you’re in court! Like arguing the Taylor Swift pic, got it. So yeah, if we’re pretending to be jurors on a case where Cosby was being tried for assault or battery or lewdness or harassment or whatever the DA or civil attorney felt applicable, and the only thing we as the jury was able to consider was the photo, you’re right, not much substance. I own tons of photos where I could say “see that guy standing behind me? He’s totally rubbing his s3xual organ on my butt!”

            But if we pretend we’re mere citizens, free to come up with our own conclusions and are skeptical of media spin, that woman’s statement (photo aside) adds a pixel to the picture.

          • jinarvada

            And there are other things that take it away. Don’t forget that Taylor Swift also complained about the guy in a timely way, which actually contributed to his firing, and supported her claim in court. Barrett didn’t.

            “I own tons of photos where I could say “see that guy standing behind me? He’s totally rubbing his s3xual organ on my butt!””

            Yes, you just proved my point. You could say that, years later. And it would have no meaning. Once again you fall into the trap of trying to make excuses for waiting decades or years to file a complaint instead of doing so immediately, and not just after many others have come forward and you look at your old pictures and find something you could make up a story about and get on TV.

          • Sally

            You’d be wrong. Only simple minded people would choose to be wrong.

          • Sally

            Sexual harassment is not a crime, it’s a tort involving job applicants, employees and educational power structures. And it must be repeated. It doesn’t include jokes. That’s all jurisdictions.

            Putting your arm around someone’s waste or shoulders probably directed by a photograph for a picture isn’t sexual assault.

            You’ll never find anyone looking happier than that women in that picture.

          • Jessie

            S3xually harassing someone can very easily cross the line between civil and criminal. Both Weinstein and Cosby are alleged to have crossed tat line. Believe what you want Sally. As unsavory as it is, they’re alleged to have committed crimes.

          • Sally

            It’s not about what one believe’s slow wit. It’s about the law as it is. You need to acquire an expertise to understand it. It isn’t a tv show.

          • Sally

            Have you seen the picture? She’s smiling from ear to ear.

          • Sally

            AC didn’t consider Cosby having previously unzipped and put her hand in her pants assault. It’s not a crime to engage in sex with someone who’d taken pills prior to onset of symptoms which would be sleep in this case. That’s what you ignore junkie but the jury couldn’t not ignore it. If she ingested those pills they’re not fast acting, not knock out pills. There could have been an hour between ingesting and onset of symptoms. He said after the sex encounter they talked then he left her to sleep. Absolutely could have happened.

          • Storm Junkie

            No one believes Cosby’s version of the events.
            Why did he give Andrea pills that make him go to sleep and encourage her to drink alcohol knowing she had to drive home and hadn’t eaten?
            I can tell you why. He always wanted to get to know Andrea and had been rejected on previous attempts so he did what he knew would work.
            He drugged her and waited until the pills took effect.
            You have no idea how much time elapsed from the time he gave her the pills until he crawled in behind her and starting helping himself.

          • FiddleRox

            No one believes Cosby’s version of the events.

            Then wouldn’t that mean that no one believes Andrea’s version of events since you claim they both stated things with about 95% equivalencies of each other?

            You have no idea how much time elapsed from the time he gave her the pills until he crawled in behind her and starting helping himself.

            Neither do you!

          • Jessie

            So interesting. Race card Hail Mary. Is it because they believe it that they’re able to accept Weinstein did the same kind of thing without drugs? Fibbles below is saying Weinstein admitted grabbing a woman’s boob, but he didn’t!! A Duhfender could argue that he “touched”, maybe by mistake lol (Sally the lawyer). But they’re not!! They’re still defending Cosby while hanging Weinstein out to dry! “Oh he admitted it” Yeah, not as much as Cosby did!! Oh wait, Weinstein’s white. NM. Lol!

          • Storm Junkie

            Funny thing is, they laughed about Cosby reaching over Helen Hayes’s shoulder and grabbing her boob as if it was no big deal.
            They also made a big deal out of recording a Cosby phone call but hold up a recorded sting audio as evidence.
            Craig and Adam are the mental midget race baiters keeping the Hail Mary alive. They all know Cosby’s guilty.

          • FiddleRox

            And you REFUSE to see nor to understand the differences! You are just a hate-filled lunatic who has mental issues! You just believe women just to believe them. Like no woman has ever lied about being sexually assaulted. Like every situation is criminal. You’re an IDIOT!!!!!!

          • Storm Junkie

            Harvey didn’t admit grabbing her in the audio. You’re taking the women’s word for it.

          • FiddleRox

            I’m taking his own word for it! THANKS! As weak as it is there is tons more evidence that suggests Weinstein is guilty of sexual assault or sexual harassment than there is that Cosby is guilty.

            Amid all the disturbing reports, however, is a particularly compelling one from Ambra Battilana Gutierrez, who says Weinstein groped her breast at an event. She immediately reported the alleged assault to the N.Y.P.D., who then devised a plan for Gutierrez to meet up with Weinstein again. This time, she would be wearing a wire, and would be guided by undercover officers in an attempt to get a confession from Weinstein on tape.

            The next day, she met Weinstein at the Tribeca Grand Hotel, where he was recorded demanding that she go to his hotel room. Gutierrez insisted on staying in the hallway, which frustrated Weinstein, as the audio shows. She then asked him why he grabbed her breast.

            “Oh, please, I’m sorry, just come on in,” Weinstein can be heard saying. “I’m used to that. Come on. Please.”

          • Storm Junkie

            Why didn’t the DA file charges if he confessed?

          • FiddleRox

            Ask the DA. I suspect because there wasn’t enough evidence for the DA to prove his case.

            The fact that Weinstein apologized to the woman suggests that he, at some point, touched her boob. But that isn’t enough to prove sexual assault. The DA would have to prove intent.

          • Storm Junkie

            The man has paid off eight women and all but confessed. How much evidence do they need? Cosby apologized and offered educational assistance, money for therapy and tickets to Florida. Why doesn’t that suggest anything?

          • FiddleRox

            All but confessed? You truly are out of the know.

            https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/05/us/statement-from-harvey-weinstein.html

            What exactly did Cosby apologize for? I have read the transcript of the phone call and it wasn’t for what you want to inject into it what he apologized for! So what if Cosby offered to pay for Andrea’s education, money for therapy, and tickets to Florida? It doesn’t suggest a damn thing other than he’s a nice guy. He has given, of his own free will, those things to many people.

            Keep grasping Dave. It’s all you can do!

          • Sally

            If you’re talking about Weistein that means nothing. When are you going to learn a settlement requires a minimum of two people; one to offer and one to accept. Settling for $100.000.00 indicates they didn’t have a case.

          • Storm Junkie

            There are other terms in settlements besides money and
            you don’t know what else was involved. How much would it cost to go the distance with someone like Harvey or Cosby knowing it could drag on for years?
            $100,000.00 went to the winner.

          • Sally

            You’re incorrect about confessions. The settlements hold that the settlement is not an admission of wrong doing.

          • Storm Junkie

            I didn’t say the settlements were a confession. He was recorded in a sting operation saying “I won’t do it again” when confronted about groping her breast.

          • Sally

            Stop taking everything out of context; it’s dishonest. She asked him why he touched her breast and he apologized and said he wouldn’t do it again. It could have been accidental, she got upset and he apologized. No crime there.

            Touching can happen without intent; grabbing is intentional. There’s no crime there which is why he wasn’t charged.

          • Storm Junkie

            Then why didn’t he say it was an accident instead of saying “I won’t do it again.” In context that means it was intentional if he can control it.

          • Sally

            He wasn’t writing a letter. He did however respond the same way that anyone else would if they accidentally touched someone on the wrong spot “I’m sorry”. She was caught saying something contradictory to what she claimed to law enforcement. Over. Can’t charge. No evidence of a crime.

          • Jessie

            Should be up to a jury to decide. He also said he was used to that. Accident prone is something the defense could argue, he’s so large his paws are always touching boobs by accident.

          • Sally

            It should up to a jury to decide how exactly low your iq is.

            Incorrect. It’s up to the prosecutor (lawyer) to know if there’s evidence of a crime and if what happened is a chargeable offence. That’s not a jury’s job.

          • Jessie

            Well if it’s up to a jury to decide I hope they have access to all the info.

            And yes, you’re correct about who decides whether or not a charge of a crime can be levied.

          • Sally

            I don’t need you to tell me if I’m correct. I have the expertise, you don’t.

          • Jessie

            Expert juror? How original!

          • Sally

            No one said “expert juror” simpleton.

          • Jessie

            You’re not an expert? Sorta seems you’re working very hard at demonstrating you are.

          • Sally

            I never said I wasn’t an expert. You and you’re group falsely claim to be with all the garbage you post. There are only 2 here at present who know what they’re talking about and it doesn’t include any of you.

          • Jessie

            Me and “my group”? What evidence is there that I’m part of “a group” and furthermore, where’s the proof?

          • Sally

            The evidence is public You, PTwhiney, oxy, junkie, ashley, kdh or whoever she thinks she is…… You’re all trolls.

          • Jessie

            Super cool that you consider that evidence.

          • Oxy

            KD has been assigned to our “group” by Adumb and Sally Sue DaCitti, lol!

          • Sally

            Of course everything you write is evidence. And it’s public too.

          • Sally

            Listen junkie, you should really be concerned about the EO trump signed regarding the ACA. Be prepared to pay higher premiums with less coverage.

          • Storm Junkie

            Being concerned isn’t going to change anything.
            When I don’t like what I’m getting I’ll stop paying for it. I can afford a doctor visit to get my generic meds.

          • Sally

            You’re pretty smug about not being a human who can incur financial ruin via an accident or illness. Not all drugs are generic and some can cost over $300.00 a script. You’re pretty ignorant about the cost of medical care and what happens as you age. If he signs an EO to remove protections for preexisting conditions and you’re diagnosed with cancer well then…..

          • Storm Junkie

            Well then, like everyone else we die. I only have a few years to go to Medicare. If things really get rough I signed up with the VA hospitals. I take two pills a day. One script is free 30 days at a time and the other 12 dollars every ninety days. I don’t sit around worrying about things I have no control over.

          • Sally

            If you age, you need to prepare. The VA is notoriously bad , Things change mr. smug. You’re not good with the money. Even wealthy people buy insurance, They don’t worry about what the future may bring; they prepare for what the future may bring. Everyone in this country requires medical insurance because sooner or later you’re going to need it, certainly as you age. You can’t predict if you’ll be diagnosed with pancreatic cancer nest month or anything else.

            But some people like you need to learn the hard way; it will come.

            FYI: Medicare is minimal, dose not include dental, prescriptions or ophthalmology.

          • Storm Junkie

            I have always been insured and supplemental insurance will take over where medicare leaves off.
            What do you tell people that can’t afford insurance in our capitalistic country. Move to Canada?

          • Sally

            Not if you have the ACA. You don’t qualify for it if you already have insurance. Who are you trying to kid?

            The answer was the ACA. Unlike you with the exception of the young people know they need adequate medical insurance to prevent catastrophic financial losses.

            Well you’re from Michigan that the russians knew they could target because they’re not to bright. It’ll come and you won’t be prepared.

          • Storm Junkie

            If you have a Marketplace plan, you can keep it until your Medicare coverage starts. When your Medicare coverage starts you can drop it without penalty. When your medicare coverage starts you can purchase Medigap insurance if you think you need it.
            I was in northern Michigan the last two days walking the beaches near Torch Lake but I am not from Michigan.

          • Sally

            You live in Michigan.

          • Storm Junkie

            You’re guessing.

          • Sally

            Am I? You schumcks talk about your personal live then believe people forget what you write.

          • Storm Junkie

            And you think you know everything but don’t. You guessed wrong.

          • Sally

            You’re going to claim you’re not Dave Miller? You should ask yourself why you know so little.

          • Storm Junkie

            I’ve been doxed enough that you know my name but you do not know where I live. There are 100,000 Dave Millers. Wherever I go I own at least one page in the phone book. Keep guessing dumbas s.

          • Sally

            I learned your name from you. You were never doxed. You haven’t a clue what doxing is. Searching for public information is legal and not doxing.

            You talk so much about yourselves anyone who’s proficient can find out who you are, where you live and more without breaking any law. You gave out your name and it’s a legal national pastime to research public facebook pages.

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            not “too” bright yourself, are you? lol

          • Jessie

            Right?!?!?

          • Sally

            But did he grab her boob. The woman accusing Harvey changed her story and then signed a letter that it never happened.

          • Storm Junkie

            She signed a letter that it never happened?
            There’s a recording of her asking Harvey why he groped her breast and he said “I won’t do it again”?
            I think you have your women confused.

          • Sally

            She never asked asked why he grabbed her breast. She changed her story and asked why he touched her breast. That could have been an accident; no intent Grabbing is intentional. You have no excuse to lie about what’s on audio since the actual audio has been available for the public to listen to on every major news network. Same women settled and wrote a letter that it never happened.

          • jinarvada

            “They also made a big deal out of recording a Cosby phone call but hold up a recorded sting audio as evidence.”

            Do you not understand the difference? The Weinstein recording was a monitored recording set up by the police and the chain of custody preserved. The Cosby recording was not. And even the police tape was not enough.

          • Storm Junkie

            Both legal recordings admissible in court where only one party knew the conversation was being recorded. What’s the difference.

          • jinarvada

            My statement had nothing to do with one-party permission or not. It had to do with official monitoring and control over the operation of the recording by law-enforcement, and conserving the chain of custody of evidence, which means the police handle the evidence and record and label it appropriately and store it safely so it can’t be tampered with. And even all of that did not produce enough credible evidence to arrest the guy.

          • Storm Junkie

            We all know the police aren’t corrupt and handle all evidence properly.

          • jinarvada

            Why indeed? That’s the question isn’t it? Nobody has every promised that it would be easy to come forward, even in those places where there are standard policies against harassment and procedures to report it. It almost never results in praise and promotions of the accuser. The accused and the institution are almost always protected. This isn’t a rose garden. But if you’re an A-list actress and you want to wait until years later, after you get your Oscar, before you complain, sorry that isn’t good enough. The heroes are those who risk everything. And this conversation and debate should not be limited to only sexually disgusting behavior directed at women, but should encompass all forms of malfeasance, whether it takes place in the entertainment industry or corporate America. The same assault on a person’s career happens if someone comes forward as a whistle blower to reveal unsafe or fraudulent business practices. What do you think the movie “The Insider” was about? The guy who blew the whistle on the Big Tobacco executives who lied under oath in front of Congress about knowing the addictive chemistry of nicotine in their cigarettes. He lost his high-paying job, too.

            If you think there will ever be a time when it will be easy to do the right thing, you are kidding yourself.

          • Storm Junkie

            Harvey was reported numerous times and it wasn’t until he was reported by A list actresses that had made a name for themselves that the story gained any traction. The only way the rich and famous are ever held accountable is when they are met head on by the rich and famous that can afford to go the distance.
            Did you see the grope in the Taylor Swift picture? If it wasn’t Taylor Swift how far do you think her sexual assault accusation would have gone?
            Sorry, but reporting early doesn’t go anywhere in a world full of people like you that demand concrete physical CSI evidence in sexual assault cases. Credibility is everything but you claim it’s nothing. Believable testimony is direct and credible evidence but you write it off as meaningless. 60 women have accused Bill Cosby of inappropriate sexual conduct and you say the number is too high and for that reason none of them should be believed.
            The women that reported Harvey early were swept under the rug and paid off. Some were trashed in the media. We may never know how many were ruined after they told someone.
            In almost all of these cases we find out that there is a trail of women that have been paid off to remain silent if they know what’s good for them and NDA’s signed to cover up the details so we can never know how what they were threatened with if they didn’t sign.

            Thanks Bill Cosby for being such a prolific sexual predator that there were too many women to ignore and they were finally believed. Even if these crimes can almost never be proven with physical evidence, world class liars and rapists are being exposed for what they are.

          • FiddleRox

            The Taylor Swift picture???? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

            Just another image where idiots and fools believe their own imaginations. That image didn’t show jack sh*t!! Just like the Donna Barrett picture doesn’t show jack sh*t!

            Btw, idiot, no one can be ‘paid off’ if they refuse the money. If the women who accused Weinstein, or any other man for that matter, accepted the money then they chose the money over pursuing justice. It means their claims will forevermore remain unproven! That’s on them!

          • Storm Junkie

            The only idiot and fool here is you. Taylor Swift had the money to go the distance, sued for 1 dollar and won.
            Common sense and logic says people that pay off sexual assault accusations have a sexual assault problem. Common sense also knows that none of these women could afford to take on Harvey Weinstein and have any chance of being able to go the distance.
            It took Kristina Ruehli $80,000 of her own money before a Massachusetts federal judge blocked Cosby’s attempt to have her suit dismissed.
            How much time and money would you invest with your resources against people like Weinstein and Cosby?
            Their cases might remain unproven but the reputation of those accused is also left undefended and open to scrutiny. If these men didn’t stay to defend themselves it wasn’t because they were trying to save money.

          • FiddleRox

            The onl;y IDIOT and FOOL here is YOU! THANKS! I’ve seen the taylor Swift image and you can’t see that man’s hand on her a$$ at all! You have to use your imagination and jump to conclusions. But that is all you do!

            Yes Taylor Swift, who I have absolutely ZERO respect for, won. Who is going to tell a woman of that caliber that she flat out lied? (I would. She is a liar). Lucjky for her there are too many fools and idiots in this world, like you, who won’t tell this woman the truth!

            Common sense and logic says your the biggest idiot and fool there is on this planet!

            Kristina Rheuli……. ROFLMFAO…….. BLAH BLAH BLAH….. She withdrew her suit because she knew she couldn’t prove her claims! End of story!

            Btw, idiot, those who didn’t ‘go the distance’ and seek that ‘justice’ they claim they sought also are open to scrutiny! But a jacka$$ fool like yourself won’t acknowledge that fact!

            Seriously. You are a disgusting and stupid and foolish human being!

          • Storm Junkie

            Nobody cares what a person of your caliber thinks but yourself, evidenced by your self upvoting of every worthless comment you make. You’re the fool that pats himself on the back and smells his own farts.

          • FiddleRox

            And you think that people care what a person of your low caliber thinks?

            Back to crying about ‘upvotes’ again? What’s the matter Dave? Were you made to look like the a$$ that you are again? I mean you do revert back to those whines and cries every time you’ve made yourself look like an a$$. (note: Dave knows that I made a promise to him about upvoting my posts because he cries like a baby about upvotes soooo often).

          • Sally

            They didn’t report to law enforcement which is all that matters. Law enforcement can do nothing unless it’s reported immediately. You can’t refuse to report to law enforcement then claim law enforcement does nothing.

          • Storm Junkie

            You must be talking about the Darren Sharper case where 16 separate women reported their rapes to 4 separate law enforcement agencies with no results. I get sick and tired of listening to your law enforcement BS when nothing ever happens and statistics show that only 2 out of every 100 rapes reported results in a rapist going to jail. I am willing to bet that none of the 2% that are incarcerated are rich and famous.
            The one actress that we know of that did report immediately was wired and Harvey admitted touching her inappropriately and said it was behavior he is “used to”. Your famous New York Sex Crimes people that you brag about and the DA’s office dropped the ball saying they couldn’t charge him without being able to prove criminal intent. When you reach out as an employer and purposely touch a women’s breast without consent it is with criminal intent.

          • Sally

            You really are a dum fuk. How do you think he got into the jail cell he’s living in? It isn’t tv dimwit, it can take years if ever to catch, charge and convict anyone especially if there’re committing crimes in different jurisdictions.

            Law enforcement dropped the ball not the DA. There’s no intent proven in the sting. There’s no admission he reached out to touch her (intent) Cops aren’t lawyers which is why they don’t make legal and judicial decisions. NYC is a place wherein no one cares who you are or how much money you have. That’s why the very famous want to live there; no one bother’s them.

          • Storm Junkie

            No I see the situation clearly. An army of women have to sacrifice everything before we expect anyone to listen. You can ding the reputation of the rich and famous but you can’t stop them from heading a major motion picture company, starring in a Netflix comedy series or becoming the next President of the United States. They have the ability to pay and bribe their way out of just about anything that would get an ordinary man fired and criminally charged.

            Bias makes us stupid. You’re no exception.

          • Sally

            You talk nonsense. There are plenty of jobs and Miramax isn’t the only studio.

            What do you call people who choose to accept what you call bribes? You claim only wealthy people are the only people responsible for their own actions? FYI: not even a judge can force anyone to settle. You do nothing you get nothing. FYI: guess who founded Miramax. FYI: there are other film studios. No one can bribe anyone who won’t be bribed. Perhaps it’s time we started prosecuting both the one who bribes and the one who accepts a bribe.

            And maybe pursuant to you women are not equal to men, are weaker than men and you agree with trump they should return to traditional values and stay in the kitchen pregnant. You have a low opinion of women’s abilities.

          • Storm Junkie

            I doubt any of the women that were strong armed into settlements are in trouble. They deserved better.
            I have a low opinion of men that take advantage of women and children because they can.
            Bias make us stupid. Look what it’s done to you.

          • Sally

            You’re biased and you hate a man you never met and did nothing to you.

            You have low opinions of women.

          • Storm Junkie

            People yakkity yak a streak and waste your time of day
            But Mister Ed will never speak unless he has something to say.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20 me
          • Sally

            You have nothing to say; you just have the need to say something.

          • Oxy

            Storm respects women. YOU have a low opinion of women.

          • Sally

            He criticizes other men’s wives the coward and believe as you stupid women do that women are helpless with intellectual disabilities. Return to publicly discussing poop; that’s all you’re good for.

          • Oxy

            And what are you good for, Sally?
            Pretending to have been a lawyer, while constantly seeking “us” out?
            People you don’t like, but the only people who will sometimes tolerate you and talk to you?
            No real lawyer, or former lawyer would/will ever talk to you.
            I don’t think women are “helpless with intellectual disabilities”, but I know, as a woman, what women experience and the obstacles we still face.
            You have no clue.
            You consistently call me an “old hag”, sexist batard, when I am probably only a couple years older than you, if that.
            I can guarantee you 100% I look better on my worst day than you ever have looked on your best day, at any age.
            As do all the women you and Craig (a confirmed gelatinous blob) call “hags”. Thinking you can hurt us , when you only irritate because of the absurdity.
            The nerve of a useless piece of sidewalk tripping blubber like yourself to criticize any woman’s age/looks.
            And as for your great intellect….well, let’s save that discussion for another time, if needed.
            I don’t criticize Camomile or the daughters, because I don’t imagine to know how they are feeling, what they went/ are going through, although I know it is not as simple as a “stand by your man” kind of thing.
            Does not give you the right to pretend you know about Storm, his wife, his life.
            Have you ever considered the kid gloves we use on you concerning your deceased partner? Have you ever considered how we could rip into you and your life, if we were azzholes? Apparently not.
            I have no plans to do so.
            I will return to talking about “poop”, however I suggest you may want to stop reading/commenting on my posts.

          • Sally

            I pretend nothing. That’s what you do. Dream on. Lawyers speak to me all the time. You violate the rules of netiquette by staying off topic and posting on the subject matter without expertise. You’re much older than I am. You people like to bulldoze your personal business to public and delusional believe crying as you do that your father neglected you.

            What kid gloves. You’re some of the nastiness people on the internet.

            Junkie too has bulldozed about his personal life and he’s a coward. He wouldn’t dare talk about anyone’s wife to their face because he knows he’ll get beaten to a pulp.

            I don’t bulldoze about my personal life to the public. You were tested and failed. There’s no decency in you. When decent people hear their spouse died they say they’re sorry. You were tested to flesh out your true characters and you failed.

            You better learn what fair play and turnabout is instead of crying over it.

            You’re all unwanted garbage hiding on news vines because you’re not wanted anyone else.

            The only people pretending here are you people who think you can bulldoze to the public invisibly.

            You can’t rip my life apart. I don’t bulldoze my personal business. You know nothing.

            You don’t want you posts read don’t post to the public arsehole. You beyond stupid.

          • FiddleRox

            How so? Even if you think he ‘respects’ women he certainly doesn’t fit the definition of being a true friend! He’s fake! He’s puts on a heavy front and pretends he defends their honor. But he doesn’t tell you when you’re wrong! He lies! ….. Oh, wait. So do you. No wonder you have a crush on him.

          • FiddleRox

            There’s a reason he’s been married three times.

          • Oxy

            What the ef are you talking about, loser?
            Of course, Storm is not a “true friend”.
            He is an imaginary person on a computer screen.
            Yet, I like him and respect him.
            As opposed to you, Craig, Adumb, Keke, Sally….
            (Are there any idiots I have forgotten……?)
            Storm is the best. He truly earns the big bucks Glo pays him.

          • FiddleRox

            Storm is ‘imaginary’? He’s not a real person? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

            Of course you claim that you respect him. Not that it’s actual ‘respect’ but rather that you like him simply because he agree’s with you and you with him. In reality he is a habitual liar and not much of what he says should be taken seriously. Of course you often lie yourself so maybe that’s what you like about him.

          • Oxy

            If Storm lies, and I am not aware of it, then that is something that should appeal to you, Sunday Munday. (Did you pick that name because of the Mamas and Papas’ song?)
            Or is your name Quincy?
            Storm is not a liar.
            How about you and I agree to go our separate ways?

          • FiddleRox

            And yet you are aware that he lies. As you are aware that you lie. Much like those lies you just told. Accusing me of being someone else is a lie when you have nothing to prove that claim (there simply isn’t anything to prove that claim). And no my name is not ‘Quincy’. These are nothing more than accusations that you and Dave and those in your group of idiots like to throw around. In reality when and as you idiots throw those accusations around you show why the women you supposedly defend should not be believed at their word. You show how easy it is to accuse someone of something without evidence or proof. The irony is that you aren’t intelligent enough to see how this works against you and those you supposedly support.

            ‘Separate ways’? I’m posting comments in a public message forum. As are you. If you make a comment and I have the desire to respond to it or about what you said I will. If you don’t want people commenting to you, other than those who agree with you, your best course to take is to not post comments at all. You have other options that you can also take. Such as blocking me or ignoring me.

          • Oxy

            I’ll go with “ignore.”

          • FiddleRox

            And yet by you commenting you prove otherwise.

          • jinarvada

            If it’s a workplace issue, go and file a Civil Rights Title VII sexual harassment claim. If it is criminal, go to the police immediately. Do so within the SoL. If you’re waiting for the perfect, safe, non-risky time to report, you won’t get one. You have a choice: weigh the risks, if you can’t conceive of risking your career, then accept and go on with your life. If you feel you should have justice and you want to take a stand, then accept the fact you may be risking everything. Life is not a cupcake. It’s hard.

          • Storm Junkie

            I would prefer waiting until the time is right and there is strength in numbers. It takes an army to be successful.

          • Sally

            It’s not a war. You want a war go stand in the middle of Seoul S. Korea.

          • jinarvada

            That time may never come. What a foolish plan.

          • Sally

            What they had to do is catch the alleged victim on audio specifically accusing him of grabbing her and he admitting he grabbed her.

            What they got was touch, not grab. All total that woman changed her statement 3 times. That woman wasn’t working for him nor was she an applicant.

          • Storm Junkie

            So it’s legal to touch breasts without consent as long as you don’t admit grabbing one? I think you’re splitting hairs knowing that it was more than a touch. Trump admitted grabbing women and was elected President.

          • Sally

            Touching usually happens accidentally. There’s no evidence that it was intentional. Intent is required to charge. No intent, no charge. No one is splitting hairs here. You lack expertise and you refuse to learn. No one knows any such thing. In all she’s changed her statement 3 times. You’re talking about the finest and most envied sexual assault unit in the world.

            Deplorables targeted by russia voted for him. Women voted for him. The result is that he reversed Obama’s order to eliminate arbitration in sexual harassment cases because they’re private and favor the company. trump has signed an EO allowing all businesses to deny insurance payments of contraceptives.

          • Sally

            You still don’t understand the difference. It’s not about admissibility.

          • Sally

            I’ll explain further explain. They made ” big deal out of recording a Cosby phone” because the state he’s being tried in is a two party state that also bars the playing of recordings without consent and they justifiably fought it. They was no chain of custody to prove the audio wasn’t altered. The other is a legal sting operation with a chain of custody proving the recording was altered.

          • Sally

            It happens all the time jessie and you know it.

            Now explain why women have to touch pregnant women without invitation.

          • Jessie

            It’s not just women who do it, it’s kids and men too! I think it’s very rude to touch a pregnant woman’s belly without invitation. I suspect those that do it have yet to or have never developed proper social skills including the respect of another’s boundaries and personal space. Why do some people feel the need to poke you in the arm when they’re making a point in the story they’re telling? Why do some people eat with their mouths open? Or still cough into their hand instead of their arm?

          • Sally

            Kids are justifiably curious. I’ve seen a man other than the father do it. Woman do it. Women complain about women doing it.

            Turning to your different subject matter it’s human rules of engagement. You want someone to feel friendly to you, sway them to your side, touch there arm at the right moment. Shake their hands. All touch is not off the table. Arms and hands are ok. Touching other body parts are not ok. Communication is more than just the spoken word.

          • Jessie

            People who aren’t able to read non verbal cues always think their friendly touches are welcome if they’re only touching certain body parts. I only like someone I’m very close with touching my hand or arm when we’re engaged in conversation or laughter, otherwise keep your paws off me. Don’t worry, I give cues, they’re subtle though, some people understand them and some people don’t. Never assume your touch is okay without reading a person first. Accurately. If you’re good at it you’ll be able to tell who’s open to a hand or arm touch.

          • Sally

            You’ve proven you have poor communication skills. Non verbal cues are only as effective as how well or not the persons skills are at communication.

            What you’ve accomplished here is the acknowledgement that there are non verbal cues. Those non verbal cues include but are not limited to giving consent for sex. It’s exactly what cosby is saying. He non verbal cues told him he could continue with sex. Her previous non verbal cues consisted of pushing his hand away and leaving.

          • Jessie

            Babies learn non verbal communication Sally, it’s not rocket science and you’d be hard pressed to find anyone in the world who doesn’t acknowledge it exists. But if you wanna stick a feather in your cap for having someone acknowledge it then go ahead, call it macaroni if you like!

            And you’re wrong. A person skilled at reading non verbals doesn’t need to rely on the clearness of the communicator. A person with ability and skill can read subtleties.

            Cosby NEVER described non verbal cues for consent. In fact, he described a lack of non verbal cues as being his green light. Even Weinstein would be able to describe what the women did to make him think they wanted it. All Cosby has is “hey they never said the magic word! So we were somewhere in between and I figured let’s go for it! She could have said no if she was able to form words but hey, I never heard ‘em”.

          • Sally

            Of the communicator has to be good at communicating. There you go passing the buck. He most certainly described non verbal cues. You people have denied that AC could have given Cosby a non verbal cue to have sex with her.

          • Jessie

            I’m saying that a person skilled at reading non verbal cues can read what is being communicated even if that person isn’t as able or effective in their non verbal communication skills.

            Cosby though, with AC, described the absence of anything verbal or non verbal as his green light. Duh. Sedatives often do that. Go figure.

          • Sally

            I’m saying it’s reliant on how skilled the communicator is at communication. It starts there. If someone doesn’t get your verbal cue it could be that you’re communication a proper understandable verbal cue.

            No, he described her non verbal cues and he’d previously learned what her non verbal cues where.

          • Jessie

            I was talking about people who were skilled and effective in reading non verbal cues. The “skill” of the communicator has little impact on how effectively they can be read. Obviously there’s some folks out there who read “unresponsiveness = go ahead time”, but like Cosby they’re only reading signs of unconsciousness. Anyone can do that.

          • Sally

            I’m talking about people with poor communication skills such as yourself.

            Here’s an example of poor non verbal communication. You have to do it first, not after. If someone pokes you because of a joke and you laugh then you’re communicating you don’t mind the poke.

            AC was never unconscious. She fell asleep (her own words).

          • Sally

            Are they pulling off shelves cds that Miramax produced, no. Are they removing streaming movies that Miramax produced, no. They only did that with the black guy. In that they’ve been racist. The media didn’t use the word “alleged” with cosby but they’re using it with harvey.

            The racism has been played out in the media reporting.

          • Storm Junkie

            Not true. The media always used the word alleged when referring to Cosby.

          • Sally

            Nope. Only the major networks. The media you follow are legitimate news sites.

            People in Michigan love to follow false news that’s why Russia specifically targeted Michigan during the elections.

          • Sally

            Sexual harassment is a civil suit not a crime.

          • Jessie

            Okay, but we were talking about two guys who committed some pretty serious crimes.

          • Sally

            There’s no evidence that either one commuted a crime. That’s just your bias. You conflate.

          • Jessie

            There’s evidence Sally, you just don’t think it adds up to proof. That’s only your opinion as a bystander.

          • jinarvada

            It seems like the “evidence” doesn’t meet the Rules of Evidence in many of the cases.

          • Jessie